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Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186631
08/01/24 08:56 PM
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Stop the invasion....100%

Deport illegals and anti Americans...100%

Drill ...100%

Cut foreign aid ....80%

Cut federal government bs jobs ...50%

Pardon j 6ers ... 95%

Chop welfare/disability.....50%

Cut and simplify tax code

Ban CRT....100%

Ban freakism....100%


Last edited by AntiGov; 08/01/24 09:06 PM.

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Re: Thought experiment [Re: Boco] #8186635
08/01/24 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Nationalize everything.

We aren't talking about Canada!

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186636
08/01/24 09:02 PM
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National carry permit. Our 2A rights shouldn't stop at the state line.

Re: Thought experiment [Re: Pafoxman] #8186640
08/01/24 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Originally Posted by wetdog
Some good ideas already
But think just a bit about what would be the outcome of your ideas
And ask yourself, then what
Every action has unintentional consequences


And that's where you'll lose this group. They can't grasp the unintended consequences thing



Show us a negative outcome


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Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186645
08/01/24 09:13 PM
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Bring back 80's music, telephone booths, and pb max candy bars.

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186649
08/01/24 09:20 PM
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I would get rid of the ATF and fire th e FBI head and his minions fire alot of SS AND gut the Justice dept. Cut welfare benefits 50% and put in a drug program to get benis. Put in term limits and age. 55 is the max age working for the Govt. Get rid of lobbyist Also get rid of NASA THAT A WASTE OF MONEY.
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Last edited by Guss; 08/01/24 09:30 PM.
Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186650
08/01/24 09:22 PM
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First off choose a cabinet of the smartest people in the room on the various issues facing the country that I could trust and talk to. I would close the borders to ILLEGAL immigration. Get started figuring out how to purge the country of the ones here illegally. Get the energy sector back to work. All but eliminate the and seriously restrict the alphabet agencies. Get my vice president and cabinet at work keeping them out there so the people knew them and what they stand for to shore up support for future administrations. Go on a tour to settle the world down outside the U S. Get a handle on foreign trade. Put education back in the states. Work with both houses to shore up the constitution so the left wouldn't be able to pack the court or add states or any of the other sneaky things they do. Pass legislation that a bill in congress only funded the purpose of that legislation and eliminate the pork that gets tacked on. That's a few.


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Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186668
08/01/24 09:38 PM
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Dismantle the deep state , and the propaganda machine that is the main stream media.

Those are the two most important and impactful problems, in my opinion.

Re: Thought experiment [Re: Brian Mongeau] #8186671
08/01/24 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau
National carry permit. Our 2A rights shouldn't stop at the state line.

Why have a permit at all?

Re: Thought experiment [Re: Boco] #8186689
08/01/24 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Nationalize everything.

Boob!

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186692
08/01/24 09:58 PM
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Eliminate the Department of Education. They have ruined our progeny. This must be stopped. Send it back to the States where it belongs.

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186711
08/01/24 10:11 PM
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I would submit that any bill introduced would have ONE subject. NO EXCEPTIONS! If you want something passed, present it in a way that is right for the people. Too many bills are passed with a bunch of BS underwritings that make them absolutely ridiculous, and two faced. I would also propose term limits, OR mandatory social security enrollment...I don't think I would get my ideas past the house, lol.


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Thought experiment [Re: Brian Mongeau] #8186714
08/01/24 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Mongeau
National carry permit. Our 2A rights shouldn't stop at the state line.



True, we have one person running for national office that has proposed national carry,..his thoughts and suggestions have been buried by main stream media.
In the era of twenty second sound bites, it is easy to bury and bypass relevant suggestions!

Re: Thought experiment [Re: Pafoxman] #8186715
08/01/24 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Originally Posted by wetdog
Some good ideas already
But think just a bit about what would be the outcome of your ideas
And ask yourself, then what
Every action has unintentional consequences


And that's where you'll lose this group. They can't grasp the unintended consequences thing

Peaceful discussion then someone comes in and takes a personal shot at someone. Here it was unprovocated my anyone. Well done

Last edited by Yes sir; 08/01/24 10:16 PM.
Re: Thought experiment [Re: WI Outdoors] #8186719
08/01/24 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Bring back 80's music, telephone booths, and pb max candy bars.

I haven't had a PB Max since they were discontinued been trying to get the wife to find a copy cat recipe!

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186722
08/01/24 10:21 PM
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Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186730
08/01/24 10:41 PM
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If we were to take 50% of people off of welfare and government handouts ( which I agree with) it would save taxpayers a large amount of money. Then what?
Homeless would be worse, there would be a rise in crime. Which means we need more police
More sickness from the homeless and drug addicts. A burden on the cities and the medical system. Need more DR and hospitals.
In the end the taxpayers are still paying the same amount and now have a worse problem

We would have to restructure our entire system
And then what?
We just end up paying more taxes

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186740
08/01/24 10:47 PM
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The deep state is not are elected officials
At this present time it is the
Zionist, they run everything
Look at Blackrocks CEO, Larry Fink

This is antisemitic because they are only Jewish by name
But I digress

Re: Thought experiment [Re: wetdog] #8186741
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We are seeing the increase even while we are putting more people on welfare. Welfare hasn't help any group of people through history as a whole. Sure once in awhile there's the individual with enough motivation to use it's benefits to improve their lives but there's 500 of the others for everyone one of those. Show me the numbers where more welfare has lowered crime and drug abuse

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Re: Thought experiment [Re: Yes sir] #8186748
08/01/24 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
We are seeing the increase even while we are putting more people on welfare. Welfare hasn't help any group of people through history as a whole. Sure once in awhile there's the individual with enough motivation to use it's benefits to improve their lives but there's 500 of the others for everyone one of the other.

I agree whole heartedly. But without jobs for those people we don't improve anything
I don't won't anyone bleeding the taxpayers dime. And that's about all a dollar is worth today

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