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Jumping on the bandwagon #6241739
05/16/18 08:55 PM
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Now up..........North Carolina


Teachers strike.......it's like some kind of liberal disease ..........oh wait


I say fire all of them ......every last one


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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241746
05/16/18 08:56 PM
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with modern technology,i believe our outdated methods of education are expensive and need a serious changing.









Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241753
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Wait there Gov, we need these modern teachers to teach the one sided, anti American ideology and agenda's to our youth to sink us into turmoil and keep us in step with 3rd world countries. The time has come to give up our sovereignty!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241761
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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241763
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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241772
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Now your talkin!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241775
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MorAns ! Lol






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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241799
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov



This one is my favorite. Lol

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241828
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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241890
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The teachers union is out of control.!!!

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241892
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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6241940
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Need to put an end to public employee unions. Unions were to protect employees from corporate greed. Without other protections in place unions were needed. With the current worker protection legislation in place unions are no longer needed in the private sector (as shown by a steady decline) and were never needed in the public sector where the government is the employer.

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6242006
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"I say fire all of them ......every last one"

"with modern technology,i believe our outdated methods of education are expensive and need a serious changing."

Agree! Get rid of every last one and throw a computerized robot in front of every kid. That ought to take care of our social problems, school shootings, and general demise of society. If that doesn't work we can start the hiring process with this T-Man group that has the answers to all of our education problems.

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6242013
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Since you are so open to our ideas on how to fix our education system, here is a couple of them for you to ponder:

1). Get big government out of the business of controlling what is taught and how it is taught and return content control to local government/communities. Eliminate federal funding related to public education and reduce federal taxes accordingly.

2). Eliminate teacher unions. Let administrators reward good performance and remove poor performers as is done in the non-union private sector.

3). Make teaching jobs competitive with private sector jobs on the basis of hours of work, attendance flexibility, benefits, and salary.

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6242027
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You could not pay me enough to be a teacher with the way kids and parents act today the schools are so afraid of lawsuits they don't back the teachers so it seems pointless!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6242042
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EdP, I agree with you that changes need to be made. I agree that unions aren't the answer to better education for our students. I agree that, just like in an realm of life, there are plenty of bad apples (lazy, complacent teachers) that made a bad name for the whole bunch. I agree that unions are protecting these bad apples and this needs to change.

Your third point, however, doesn't hold much water in my books. I live and teach in a small rural community and we have lost more qualified teachers than we have been able to retain to a local pharmaceutical company that pays better and requires less qualifications. Making teaching jobs competitive is exactly the problem. Nobody wants to do it for the pay and benefits, headaches, and snob kids. The starting salary at my school is $32,000. It's a different clientele than it was a couple decades ago.

Sorry, I don't mean to vent and I try very hard not to be bias but I just get sick of hearing the same soapbox junk from a few individuals here that think they have all of the answers but haven't set foot in a school in decades. Contrary to popular belief there actually are some good educators in the classroom that are working to make change.

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6242064
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atrapper, the competitive aspect works both ways. If teachers are not getting paid enough there will be a temporary shortage and salaries will have to be increased to attract quality candidates. I just want the free market to be allowed to work.

Re: Jumping on the bandwagon [Re: AntiGov] #6242092
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EdP, very true. That's the way it should be. Unions may have their place but they certainly can be prohibitive in a free market. All of this teacher striking could be the swing that you speak of in regards to temporary shortages and a need for increased salaries. Again, I'm not advocating for strikes or saying that these teachers that are striking are doing it for the right reasons. Maybe they're just greedy. I don't know, I'm not in their shoes. But I do know that just like any vocation, teachers want a fair shake at salary and benefits.

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