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Methods of making waxed dirt #6255314
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Probably has been discussed in here somewhere a million times, but I'll comment again. How do my trapperman bros and sisters that make waxed dirt, use what methods. I use a bunch of black plastic tubs covered with old storm windows. I put a couple or three gallons of dirt in them along with the right amount of wax for my soil type. Tilt the tub slightly to catch the full sun in the tub on a super hot sunny after noon. The glass keeps the heat in and it does get really hot under the glass. I then just stir the dirt a time or two and in a couple or three hours it's all done. I use 4 or 5 (sometimes more)tubs at once. In just a couple or three weekends usually in August I can make a couple 55 gal barrels of dirt with hardly no effort. How do you make waxed dirt??? Any comments??


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255375
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I have a couple large plastic/rubber cement "mixer" flat tubs that ride in back of my truck under a hot black tonneau cover in summer. They are wide, long,and have sides about 8" high. A layer of dirt in each, some wax shavings on top, and when I get to work they sit under that tonneau cover all day in the sun doing its thing. Completely rain proof, and temps under that tonneau get well up enough to melt wax easily. Stir them up when I get home and a batch is done! A few reloads and days sitting in parking lot at work and viola! Many gallons of waxed dirt sifted and ready to be stored up in clean one gallon milk jugs for easy storage and stashing jugs at set locations so no carrying around during season for remakes.
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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255430
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Hey that's pretty smart, Jim!!! I like the truck tonneau cover thing. The milk jug thing is pretty clever too. Hope all is well up by Lincoln.


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: jabNE] #6255438
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Originally Posted By: jabNE
I have a couple large plastic/rubber cement "mixer" flat tubs that ride in back of my truck under a hot black tonneau cover in summer. They are wide, long,and have sides about 8" high. A layer of dirt in each, some wax shavings on top, and when I get to work they sit under that tonneau cover all day in the sun doing its thing. Completely rain proof, and temps under that tonneau get well up enough to melt wax easily. Stir them up when I get home and a batch is done! A few reloads and days sitting in parking lot at work and viola! Many gallons of waxed dirt sifted and ready to be stored up in clean one gallon milk jugs for easy storage and stashing jugs at set locations so no carrying around during season for remakes.
Jim


Yes, I too like that idea Jim. That's pretty innovative and simple. I'm glad that I have another use, albeit unusual, for my tonneau cover.


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255445
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2 Turkey roasters set at 130 degrees. If soil is such that it may not be dry, leave the lid ajar for a few hours to totally dry it. Sprinkle in the amount of wax for your soil type and go do your chores. Can do it at my schedule and have done 100's of gallons through the years. Come back when you can and stir as you pour it out. Works for my busy days and cheaper than Jim's truck (LOL). Besides I'm retired and don't want to get another job to wax dirt (Many LOL).

Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255448
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What kind of wax is everyone going with? I'm sure that everyone isn't blowing up a trapping supply store with sales of flaked wax. Where do you get your wax stupid cheap?


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255458
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I use Hobby Lobby wax with the 40% off coupons..................

Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255479
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Cement mixer and a weed burner.
Pre mix and heat sifted dirt until It's hot to the touch then add flaked wax. Mix with heat still being applied. Once dirt has a even color remove your heat source. Mix until dirt Is stone cold.
Remove dirt and store In clean containers. WE used those cardboard drums with the snap on lids.

I just don't see how you can get a perfectly mixed product If your not mixing In something like a cement mixer with a constant even heat source.
Rent the mixer on Saturday and you get Sunday free. A couple of days and a few sixers and your good to go.
I like to have all my dirt collected and pre sifted and my six packs cold before I start.
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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6255742
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With a cement mixer and a torch, I do 200 gallons on a weekend. As long as I have presifted DRY dirt/sand mix. I melt the wax before I add it to the dirt. Get a lazer thermometer to monitor the temp. , heat dirt to 140 pour measured melted wax in then turn the burner off. Tilt the mixer so it mixes well. let it cool in the mixer and dump. On to another batch. I need volumes, normally 300 gallons a season.. I over wax mine so it packs.. Have fun


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256024
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I can't take credit for the tonneau cover trick on hot days. I saw it on one of F&T's sponsored trapping TV shows on the outdoor channel one Saturday morning, Harry Nietsle (spelling) was explaining how he makes waxed dirt. Thought it was a simple idea and I tried it, worked great and driving to work with truck sitting in a hot parking lot was something I was already doing.
Definitely presift and dry the dirt.
Jim


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256090
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Glad this came up, I was just getting things together to make some wax dirt here in the next few weeks. Here in Indiana our soil is somewhat clayish , but I have a 5 gallon bucket of dry dirt that came off the top of the farmers field next to me. How much flake wax (in pounds) per one gallon of dry finely shifted dirt ? I'll be using the "solar" method. Is there a way to screw this up, and if yea a way to fix it ? It will be my first time making wax dirt, not sure what the end result should look like. -Thanks

Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256118
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Don't screw around with local dirt, Go to some landscaper and get some nice black dirt.

Then If the finished product doesn't blend In to good. Just use some dirt from the set to do a little blending.

The other thing when using waxed dirt Is that your going to have to remove the original dirt from the location. You can toss It behind the set or haul It away. I have found It's better to haul It away.


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256176
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Kryon, the recent Trapper Predator has an article on wax dirt.

Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256180
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I have a couple different farms that have a loamy type soil, they work very well.

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Spot on Late Bite.


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256232
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Like many others, I also use a mixer, posted soem details on it late last summer

Wax Dirt w/ Mixer

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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: trappergbus] #6256233
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Originally Posted By: trappergbus
With a cement mixer and a torch, I do 200 gallons on a weekend. As long as I have presifted DRY dirt/sand mix. I melt the wax before I add it to the dirt. Get a lazer thermometer to monitor the temp. , heat dirt to 140 pour measured melted wax in then turn the burner off. Tilt the mixer so it mixes well. let it cool in the mixer and dump. On to another batch. I need volumes, normally 300 gallons a season.. I over wax mine so it packs.. Have fun



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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256273
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I agree that a cement mixer is the way to go. Bought a used electric one for $50. I don’t regret that purchase. That plus a weed burner and a laser thermometer and wax away.

Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: kyron4] #6256295
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Originally Posted By: kyron4
Glad this came up, I was just getting things together to make some wax dirt here in the next few weeks. Here in Indiana our soil is somewhat clayish , but I have a 5 gallon bucket of dry dirt that came off the top of the farmers field next to me. How much flake wax (in pounds) per one gallon of dry finely shifted dirt ? I'll be using the "solar" method. Is there a way to screw this up, and if yea a way to fix it ? It will be my first time making wax dirt, not sure what the end result should look like. -Thanks


Clay type soils take more wax. Sand takes less wax. I get loamy soil and add 1 gallon of sand to 5 gallons of dirt. Start with 3/4 pound of wax to the gallon then test. It's best to over wax so it is holds its shape when compressed.


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Re: Methods of making waxed dirt [Re: NebrCatMan] #6256300
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For the guys using the harbor freight cement mixer, which model is best? I don’t like buying junk, so I want to get one that will do the job and last. I plan on assembling it with better bolts and locknuts.

Thanks and best wishes.


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