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Posted By: MJM

WI bills - 02/14/18 02:52 PM

Wisconsin Sen. Fred A. Risser (D-Madison) has introduced two bills that would ban trapping and hunting in all state parks. Senate Bill 774, which bans the use of foothold and body-gripping traps in states parks, and Senate Bill 775, which bans all hunting in state parks, have both been assigned to the Senate Sporting Heritage, Mining, and Forestry Committee. If either bill were to pass and become law, Wisconsin would see a decline in access to hunting and trapping, and, worse, these bills would politicize wildlife management.

Research has consistently shown that the number-one reason people give up hunting is due to a lack of access. Sen. Risser would further exacerbate this problem by denying access to more than 60,570 acres.

Reducing access to public lands for hunting and trapping is also bad for the state’s economy. In Wisconsin, the average hunter spends more than $2,800 per year, generating a total of $4 billion in economic impact. Reducing the number of hunters and trappers would also impact conservation funding, as hunting and trapping licenses and taxes on firearms fund the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

“Senate Bills 774 and 775 are just plain bad policy in every way,” said Luke Houghton associate director of state services for Sportsmen’s Alliance. “These bills are bad for wildlife, bad for the economy, and bad for conservation.”
Posted By: Tweed

Re: WI bills - 02/14/18 03:11 PM

Thank you for the alert.
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: WI bills - 02/14/18 03:20 PM

Didn't Wis. just open this up in 2012. If so that didn't take long.
Posted By: corky

Re: WI bills - 02/14/18 03:38 PM

Didn't take "Fred the Red" long to get on this. These bills won't go anywhere this session.
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: WI bills - 02/14/18 05:10 PM

Aint he dead yet?
Posted By: lee steinmeyer

Re: WI bills - 02/14/18 06:46 PM

Could do a song about that, "Fred the Red is Dead! grin On a serious note, why does this kind of crap always come from city people that have never used wildlife for anything! mad
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/15/18 12:44 AM

i totally agree with theese bills. prior to 2013 most state parks had limited access that was very acceptable. since then our governor has opened the parks up for a public land free for all and this has huge safety issues. our family farm adjoins a state park and the negative impact it has had is huge. until you personnally are effected you have no idea of the negative impact involved.
Posted By: keets

Re: WI bills - 02/15/18 02:01 PM

how DARE the public use the public land....who do they think they are?
Posted By: bhugo

Re: WI bills - 02/15/18 02:31 PM

We can hunt and trap on Michigan state park land. There are signs all over telling people that it’s legal for hunting and trapping and also leash laws.

There are a bunch of people who want to walk their dogs without leashes. They go cross country skiing or hiking and want to have their dogs run with them. I have talk to a lot of them that are upset they have to keep their dog on a leash. All they have to do is pay for the little sticker on the license and they get to go cross country skiing all winter long in the park, and us hunters and trappers have to buy the little tag as well as licenses to hunt and trap. So I’m glad they put up a lot of signs to remind people that there is hunters and trappers in the woods as well. Good use of license money imo.
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: WI bills - 02/15/18 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: bluejay
i totally agree with theese bills. prior to 2013 most state parks had limited access that was very acceptable. since then our governor has opened the parks up for a public land free for all and this has huge safety issues. our family farm adjoins a state park and the negative impact it has had is huge. until you personnally are effected you have no idea of the negative impact involved.
Yup, parks are no longer a refuge for the deer and coon that eat my corn. best thing that ever happened. A few people were mad because they lost their private state sponsored trophy production areas.
Posted By: Randy Wieland

Re: WI bills - 02/15/18 03:12 PM

I have public land near my farm. Few idiots abuse it, and its disgusting. I wish the few would be held accountable if/when caught. But excluding the limited few scumbags, the majority of people are very respectful of the area and take good care of it.
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/16/18 01:45 AM

its hard for a state sponsored trophy area to produce when just about every deer is killed
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 01:56 AM

diggerman you obviously either dont have property that borders a state park or havent been plauged with tresspassing and theft problems. you also have a privlige that i dont. even though we both own property u can control the number of deer and furbearers on youre property i cannot.doesnt seem reasonable to me. maybe since we dont have the same capabilities of how we can use our property my taxes should be decreased and the differance should be spread out amongst those who have full control of there property
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 02:05 AM

does 40 -50 vehicles in a 560 acre park sound safe to you. i can tell you it is not!
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 03:20 AM

Originally Posted By: bluejay
does 40 -50 vehicles in a 560 acre park sound safe to you. i can tell you it is not!


yup everyone gets 10 acres

if you think there needs to be some safety then the DNR can set a cap on hunters per XX acres and make people schedule access but closing every park is just dumb
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: bluejay
diggerman you obviously either dont have property that borders a state park or havent been plauged with tresspassing and theft problems. you also have a privlige that i dont. even though we both own property u can control the number of deer and furbearers on youre property i cannot.doesnt seem reasonable to me. maybe since we dont have the same capabilities of how we can use our property my taxes should be decreased and the differance should be spread out amongst those who have full control of there property
a deer was just hit feet from my mailbox, there era 20+ in my hay field tonite. I have a 4000 acre public hunting area within a forty of my land and a state park that virtually borders my land and land I rent. We have more than enough deer to go around. My neighbor shot a monster buck within a stones throw of the park boundary on his land. I have always had the occasional jaywalker but not any different now as before.
Why can you not control your own property?
Posted By: The Beav

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 03:40 PM

When we hunted B.O.W there were assigned parking areas. And assigned hunting areas. It worked just fine.

Sounds to me like some persons that have land bordering state land are worried that some one on that state land just might kill some ones deer.
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 08:13 PM

i dont claim ownership of any animal until it is harvested. animals dont know property lines neither do some of the public land hunters.i cannot control animal populations on my property because the state park is being over hunted/harvested. i am totally fine with allowing hunting in state parks as they used to be. x amount of hunters in x amount of acres
Posted By: The Beav

Re: WI bills - 02/17/18 08:16 PM

Am I to assume that since your land borders State land you don't hunt over the line?
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 01:04 AM

i do not hunt over the line. there is another negative point that you obviously cant fathom. in the first 3 years of state parks being open to the public i had 2 close calls with stray bullets.in one instance the individual was ticketed the other shot came from within the park toward me striking the tree i was sitting in. that being said i no longer hunt that ridge on our own property! hey beav if you are the forum know it all i would have to say you are not very well versed in hunter safety
Posted By: WIMarshRAT

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 01:42 AM

I think you should post the name of the park that is causing all the issues. Then we can all work with legislators to prioritize the sale of it. No reason to keep a park that users can't respect.
Posted By: tlguy

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 02:48 AM

Devil's Lake, Mirror Lake, or Natural Bridge? Man I didn't expect there to be 3 state parks in your county, that's lots of public land that'll be lost to hunting and trapping.
Posted By: The Beav

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 05:07 AM

Well I think your just ticked off because some one Is shooting the deer that you think belong to you.
Put In some food plots and create some bedding areas to hold the does on your land and don't worry about the hunters on the Public land.

I know all about hunter safety. So your saying we should close all state land to hunting or just the state land that borders your ground? And I bet you have hunted over on that state land.
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 02:46 PM

i have food plots and there is plenty of bedding cover.the problem lies with the population .since the park has been open to the public it has reduced numbers to next to nothing and it effects every adjoining land owner not just me. one guy a half mile away has a sancuary 100 acre island of timber that deer go yo when season starts. prior ti 2013 you would see 30 deer there now on a good evening you will see 6 and that is the deer population from not only the park but other adjoining lands.i really dont understand why that many public land hunters flock to this area as they have the o population beat to snot
Posted By: bluejay

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 02:48 PM

also i am not saying to close the parks just limit the access to a safe number of hunters
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: WI bills - 02/18/18 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: bluejay
i really dont understand why that many public land hunters flock to this area as they have the o population beat to snot


Most likely because they enjoy hunting but have no other place to go due to locked-up private lands and "sanctuary 100 acre islands of timber that deer go to when the season starts."

Moosetrot
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