Nafa sale today!!

Today is finally here.. Bring it. It should be a barn buster.

What time do the festivity's commence ?

12 Noon Eastern time I think I read

First time in 15 years that I have no fur on the auction. First season in the past 40 that I didn't set a trap.☹️

I don't have any fur on it, but I'm going to listen, rats and coon anyway.

Rats Rock

I also have no fur, but I am for sure curious how things sell

I have 20 3XL I rats that need to bring more than the 6 dollars I could have got from Groenwolds truck, we shall see. I have 14 same grade at the Fur Harvesters sale next week, split my rat catch between them, 140 total. I only live 25 miles from the receiving depots, have not trapped much in years, so want to see how it shakes out between them.

I wish you luck but I'm guessing you will not see more then $6 in your pocket unfortunately.
Hope I'm wrong for you

I would have taken the $6 , time will tell.

You're not the only gambler here FD-1.

I took the $6.00 and I'm happy I did.

Word from Toronto is not much interest in rats. More than expected in raccoon.

LLL

Hey Terry what does this new heading In the catalog mean? "Raccoon Supplement"

The raccoon supplement is 5 large string lots. Most likely added at the last minute by some big dealer that has a lot of pull with NAFA.

Goonies?

Can anyone hear the auctioneer?

Gosh don't know what to say,lol.

you have to click on the blue page that comes up

Sorry I got it figured out. It's no fun to be old and dumb.

Typical beaver sale.

BFP boy you are not kidding lol

Otter aren't going to take long at this rate

No one wants otter.

Otter are dead on the vine! Top lot beaver at darn near hatter prices. Not very encouraging.

Top lot beaver is higher then July sale

Beaver appeared to be 15% higher to me
But I didn't compare all of them. Just the top end blankets

How did the Red Rims do?

Sold for less then similiar grades

Mink aren't doing to bad.

So Only BOCO'S BEAVER Are Selling Up There, Then ?

w

Those are fire sale coon bought up by NAFA mink ranchers, getting to see sunshine again.

The real sale starts in the back room in a little while, This auction thing is a just a formality.

Agreed
Advancing prices

Just a cover agreed
If send them,they will take them.lol

$7.00 Top Lot Rat--Selects.

Rats Rock At NAFA !!! LOL

w

Here come coons.

how do these coons compare to last year?

A lot bought back compared to last year.

Nate you got coon on this sale?

I have 3 coon on this sale
1 @ 20.00

1 @ $7.00

And one to sell. Bought back

In your eye Beav were they similar coon?

looks like they are more worried about size and clarity than grade

So Beav, you have $13.50 average on what you've sold so far. Not bad. LOL. All my fur will be going up for the next auction so hopefully prices will creep up a bit.

So much for the great coon sale lol

I think it's Ok. beats anything Iv'e heard so far.

4XL-3XL *I 1- 2 20.00
1
XXL I-II 1- 2 $7.00
1
4XL-3XL SDA 3 Bought back

But the average is going to look awesome!!!

Good luck.

I'm sure glad I sold my few rats In the country. Now we will see how the coyotes go tomorrow.
I had a $20.00 nose count offer and I turned it down.

$20 average on the coyotes might be hard to beat. Hopefully you'll get close. Anyone have any amount of rats on the sale? Wondering what the averages were.

I sent 110 Coons in. 61 sold for about a 11.50 average. The rest were buy backs.

I had 150 central rats topped out at $4.70 for 44 3xl-xxl *1. This was lot 135221, top lot of centrals. $3.70 for 42 xl *1. They did grade good. About what I expected.

Thanks for the prices Kansas Rook and Bodycount.

Good job NAFA, holding the line. Keep it up!

Private treaty sales have already started. Sold 2 otter for 37.50 average, don't know which ones though. They also cleared out my beavers, was showing 4 buy backs, now showing 0. Average stayed basically the same.

May the consignment sale begin!

P.S. "Muskrat Shine on Day 1 of Sale"

Pretty much what I expected. Did they even clear 10% 0f the offering?

My coon did good 70% sold better than what I expected

I bet that goes up. LLL

It will Larry alot of my better grades bought back I'm happy

looks like most of the otter ended up selling, i only had 2 in the sale and 1 was $44 and the other was $69. This was the 1st lot. Far cry from the top $$$ lot a few years ago but just happy to have 1 in the top again.

Mink was poor-$15 avg.

Sure beats giving them away in the country

My coon did great except 2 buy backs. It was weird tho, at first a 5x sold for 33 and later for 30. Two 4x sel 1 were no sale and later changed lot numbers and sold for 63 ea. Made my average 38.20 on 5 coon, 2 no sales. Never had lot ting numbers change during the sale.

63 was top lot

Your avg?
Mink were up from last year

Still low but upward

i'm thinking i need to go trap coons at the son's in Minot.

Mink were the star of the sale. That’s not saying much though

How do they do top lots for beaver. Is there one for Eastern and one for western or just one between the two.

In 2006 my weasels averaged just under that. Good Job!

In the past, there have been 2 types of top lots.

1 for the buyers. Just one top lot for the sale. Always in the eastern section. Almost always the first lot of XXL

For the sellers, there are multiple top lots

Eastern, XXL
Western, XXL
Eastern , XL
Western, XL
Eastern Large
Etc.

Sellers top lots are based solely on price. Most money paid in that section.

Kendall what did your coon average? Larry same question. I have plenty of coon to sell yet. PM me if you'd rather do that if you guys don't mind.

Yea good thing I didn't send too many.I get more than that for weasels right now.No market for tanned mink unfortunately.

See I got no market for tanned weasels, but I'm working on it.

You got a market for tanned mink?I got a few on hand I will try to move this summer,They are just as easy to tan as weasels.

I've got a market for both. I already have a good, reliable source.

All this talk about weasels has me wanting to go but at nafa and ship to boco

Does the Colonel give away his secret recipe?

If you mean tanning,its no secret,lots of tanning kits available today.Small skins are easy to do manually because they are small.

are these prices before the commission comes out?

How many coon were on sale.

There is a Top Lot for both. Top western was $30.00.

Did they sell any Fisher today?

Nope. Offered later on in the week

Fisher "sell" on Saturday afternoon, march 3. After 1.25 million ranch mink.

Surely you are joking about the 1.25 Million.

Looking at the order of sale, there are 2 groups of ranch mink offered beorebthenfisher.

610,000 of one color
625,000 of another color.

Doesn't that add up to 1.25 million?

Purty close!

No. 1.35 million.

Maybe they'll sell enough ranch mink to afford keeping this southern half rotten mess in storage another year, lol.

Mink averaged 19
and Red Fox 39.33 for the ones I sent in.
Better than last year, but still glad I didn't send a lot.

How about 1.235 million. . 6 and 6 are 12. Or in this case 1.2. Then the 35,000 after that.

Well, I wouldn't think that anyone in the know thought that this sale was going to be a block-buster.

Haha, yep you're right. Should have known better than to argue with you about NAFA. LOL

Lol !

178 straight run of ND rats (No culling - Spring of 2017) Avg. $3.25 before 9% commission. Fox sale was a train wreck

Any offers from a country buyer on any of it???

Fox portion has me worried. That mess can’t bode well for coyotes.

What happened in the Fox portion of the sale?

Not the same market

Just looked at my account, 3.63 average on the 52 rats that sold, 19 a piece on two male mink, take the commission off that. I said I was going to trap when I retired and I did . Never said I would make much money at it.

Red Mt Yes, sold 128 rats to a country buyer for a 2.95 avg IMO they were a little better rat. Its a wash basically

That could be the highest price coon in North America this year. Well done. I got stuck with a $18.33 avg including what didn't sell, minus commission of course. So $17 and change. I am sure I could have got that anywhere. NOT
Update My bought back XX coon sold for 17 kicking me up to $22.33 average before commission.

i'm pretty happy with the sale prices even though i have no fur there.hard to see a glimmer of hope through all the clouds lately.

Wow sad

Sounds like some did pretty well on coon? At least what sold.

they're giving the auctioneer a pretty hard time on the ranch mink

can someone put a link to the auction up,i'd like to try and see this but am not tech savy.

pcr2 the only way I know to the auction is if you log into your account and connect from there.

Dave

thanx

http://www.nafa.ca/auctions-2

I'm glad there was a slight uptick in demand for coons. The right direction atleast. Thier website stated 66% sold due to regulations on new sellers some did not?

http://account.nafa.ca/broadcast/

They sold over half the coon offered! Much better than anticipated. The $5-$9 for 2X was right in line with in the country, but $18-$20 for 3X/4X is about $6 -$8 better than in the country.

Guess you will have company next year on the river

This is just my opinion take it for what its worth: If you had an $18.83 average selling more at $17 would lower that average. Just my arithmetic yours might be different.

Eb, my understanding is he originally added the unsold coon to his average with a value of $0. Hence when he added the $17 coon it raised his average.

The OP probably needs to clarify but it sounds like his first avg. was total sale amount divided by the total quantity sent whether they sold or not. In other words, zero value for the unsold.

So when they sold PT and that amount was added to the total value but the quantity remained the same, the average would increase.

^^^This. LLL

Imo that is how you get true average everything in and divided.

You know looking over some rough numbers prices look the about the same as last years disappointing prices with less volume sold. Price the same. Supply down. Demand down?

I would agree dirt on everything but coyotes, most cats are hold overs.

X2

Now I see. I must have missed arithmetic in school, maybe I was sick that day. $22 + sounds good to me.

NAFA seems to be selling ranch mink differently than last year. They are offering by size, not grade. For example instead of offering grade Golds in all sizes, they are offering size 4XO in all grades. Interestink!

Best I can tell #1 females ( a big chunk of the brown females) are down 10 to 20% from May.

Throw #2s in that pile.

Are they selling coyotes yet?

not yet, only a page or 2 of ranch mink left.

Coyotes are up in 5 min after the break!

Yeah.....Yotes!

I waiting

It's been 5 minutes

Top Lot $610.00

top lot Yote, 610

Wild on the floor! $158 second lot

lot 103, $170

lot 104 $152

lot 105 $136

Lots of bidding, floor is quite noisy =)

hope it stays that way for the easterns

Mediums are killing it. highest average out of colors so far!

One bidder bought 10 lots in a string, totalling around ~$190k. Whooee!

-NC

The first 98 lots were over $100. Then it dropped to $96.

I am liking these $112 and $88 coyotes.

My section II's all sold for $100+

I need to move out west...

Did they sell the Eastern Coyotes yet ?

This is crazy. SAD's for $102

I am surprised at how high the "lower" grades are selling for. The section II 1-4 clear are holding their own quite well in my opinion.

no

Still on Western's. Just sold and SDA for $106

They are not through the heavy westerns yet. Then will be semi's, then easterns.

2/3 done with westerns then semi then eastern

To bad most Kansas coyotes are semi.

no buy backs yet

Not even close, still screaming bids. Heavy competition for every lot

No kidding. Most all my semi's are on the first page.

Yea those heavies are hanging in there, I only hadone out of 77 , sold for 132

Semi's looking good

(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) Yeah, all mine are sold and averaged $112. Not bad for having fun killin Yotes.....

now looking better

35025 coyotes sold for a low of $64 with four lots bought back.

Must have been some serious bidding going on as prices are all over the place. Looks like the buyers paid more for less at times?

$122 for top eastern

Four different lots at $122.00. Wierd.

-NC

Agressive bidding

Glad I just put in a bid on a Hobart 4152 7 1/2 horse grinder to grind whole bobcat carcuss up...been boning and buying boned meat.....don't think it will grind up a whole horse though....those prices look encouraging

Ihave a hard time grinding bobcat meat, just wants to plug the machine. ,Thinking about putting them through the wood chipper, works good on carp but you want to stand back.

There was some confusion with those lots in a string. That will be sorted out, and those lots will sell for either $120 or $122.

Looks like they timed out. Lynx, Bobcat, Marten and Fisher in the AM. Noticed I sold a skunk Private treaty before they go on the block too.

Spruce, they will start with more mink tomorrow and finish the day with Lynx, then Thursday start with mink end the day with bobcat.

They didn't time out. They sold what was scheduled for today.

Starts again tomorrow morning with more ranch mink. End tomorrow. With lynx.

Bobcat and marten and fisher later in the week.

Here is a link to the order of sale. This is official. Catalog doesn't mean anything.

http://www.nafa.ca/auction-announcement-february-2018-order-sale/

I had 4 skunk sell as well.

Skunks are only being offered PT. They are not part of the live auction this time.

We are a long ways from having much company prices

"A similar quantity offering of Demi Brown female mink followed and sold over 86% at price levels that were also very firm to slightly advancing under highly competitive bidding."

Advancing?

I had a lone hold over II eastern coyote in a mut lot sold for 25.

Thanks Nancy,I was wondering about that.

A few country buyers have hit a lick this year along with some trappers looks like.

Averaged $130.86 on my Coyotes! $5.86 more than I expected! Woot woot!! Proud to be Canadian!!!!

Guess you will have company next year on the river[/quote] We are a long ways from having much company prices [/quote]

Always plenty of company round here. Not sure how it is elsewhere.

how did reds do yesterday

Mondays wild fur report:

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Feb-26-2018-Auction-Report-WF-Revised.pdf


Today's coyote report:

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Feb-27-2018-Auction-Report-WF-.pdf

Has anyone had any of there badgers show sold yet?

2 of my 4 badgers sold for 40 apiece,

Better end Sec 3 coyotes are worth shipping.

Only have 2 badgers there and neither has sold. I have 11 skunks and 6 have sold for a $10 average.

Northern Mn yotes did well again,western heavy avg $91 semi $53 and eastern $64.High was $110 low was $40 overall avg after comission was $63 plus,same as last years ,well within pennies.

A picture should be made of this quote and the picture should hang in every living room in America.lol

Anybody know how many Easterns broke the $100 mark yesterday? Just curious

Good time to be a coyote trapper

104.00 top for my eastern average of 38.83. Happy happy .

They sold about 7,000 Eastern ( not the better end I guess ) or ten percent of the the offering for a top of $4 to the bottom of $1.

I had 5 In that bunch. But there gone.

But look how you drug down the price of the top end fur?

PSB,this is why it is important to publish the sec 3 avgs separately in my opinion.It helps the trapper decide what he should skin and what he should toss and when.

OK Boco.

Your boys at NAFA just published an average of $19.72 for section 3 fur. That was not the average for the sale; not with 7000 two dollar coyotes sold. Now they will get more.

Boco how do you feel about 17,000 squirrel for 10 or 20 cents?

Don't matter to me Boco,I don't want nothing to end the arguments,I enjoy them.lol
By the way,at times,I have sold secIII stuff for what I can't get for my best stuff some years.

There were 9 lots that broke the 100. I had 4 sell for 122 and 3 others break the 100. 71.04 average out of 25 I sent in.
Well pleased with that! Had 1 section 3 sell for a buck lol

Seems like the only ones posting their averages are the ones who beat the sale averages.
(i normally do better than the sale average, but not by as much as some it looks like.)

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Feb-26-2018-Auction-Report-WF-Revised.pdf

Mine averaged about $46. Was able to skin everything this year. Did not ship four "red" coyotes. No mange this year usually get about 5%-10% mange in Maine.

I gotta say it: why do people even skin that kindof stuff?

Shirt to shinola what did the sale average?

It's fun.

How many real averages not just top stuff sent in,
These great averages and great prices but I am betting not everything got sent to auction for a lot guys . Imo

For me,double.

You are correct. I do not ship the red & black coyotes (wall hangers) and I don't skin the mange coyotes.

Out of 10,849 semi's, looks like only 45 skins at $25 were trapped before December 1st.The rest I guess were all caught after Dec. 1st.

I do not skin the mangy ones either but every else goes in average ,
I am not complaining I find it interesting how people figure stuff is all and maybe learn something.

I don't skin mangey yotes but everything else is in my average. I think I had 4 mangey ones I didn't put up this year

I believe semis did better than some believed they would do but really no big ah ha moments.
What we should consider is what a man in the know said are we at the peak now?

Just curious, how do you know when they were caught?

Anyone?

To the best of my knowledge, the only way to figure a true sale average at NAFA would be to sit down with a calculator and the catalog and crunch the number your self. That would be a monumental task.

And even then it would not be a true sale average because PT sales, if any, would not be included. And even though coyotes sold well, there were a few buybacks, which potentially have sold PT.

NAFA has never been known to publish true sale averages. It is almost always by section. And it states on their reports that averages are off fresh sundry owner Section I goods.

I don't. When you are told you should have never put up coyotes and they average $65 I guess I should have listened,lol. I started at the beginning of the fur funnel and should have started towards the end of the chain.

Agree. They even have some funny to me math calculations on our account page. They give us an overall avg per pelt sold. Who cares what this number is when you have multiple species involved. Makes no sense to me but somebody in NAFA must think it is important.

I don't care what the sale average is, I don't care what the total pelt average is, heck I don't care what my average is. I care about the amount of the check. I was pleased.

Ok thank you
The sections help

Not really hard to do. I just copies the Eastern 7 pages of sales into a spread sheet. Wrote a few formulas and here it is.

I did not include 515 bought backs. They will sell at some point and IMO averaging in @ $0.00 is not accurate.


13558 Eastern Grade coyotes sold at $32.44 average.

$31.25 if you include the 515 bought backs.

Monday's wild fur report:

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Feb-26-2018-Auction-Report-WF-Revised.pdf


Yesterday's coyote report:

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Feb-27-2018-Auction-Report-WF-.pdf

Eb - did you include all the sections of eastern coyotes or just the L/XL?

There were also Medium/Small eastern as well as damaged eastern.

Just curious.

If you add 7 thousand eastern section 3 two dollar coyotes to your 14 thousand 32 dollar average coyotes how's that affect the average?

I skinned every coyote that I caught this year except for three that had mange and 1 that was missing fur on his shoulders. I had a couple of pink bellies in the mix that some hunters dropped off. I shipped 21 to NAFA and all were listed as semi heavies. I did not top them off nor was I that selective in the process. I figured a coyote from start to board takes me about 30 minutes so even $20 coyotes are worth my time. I topped out at the sale with two $78 dog. My low was $33. My average before commission was $60.43. I have 23 more coyotes in the shop and you can bet your can they are getting shipped on Saturday. NAFA rocks!

Eb you the man

Nice!

Lynx are selling now. Prices don't look very good.

Nope
When they get to mediums they'll be a $20 bill

Darn, I missed those that should not have been shipped. I'll add them in just to see. Can't find any med/sm easterns. In Maine the smallest is normally an XL, except for maybe 1 in 10 pups that grade smaller.

A total of 20,441 Easterns were sold a NAFA on 27 Feb 18 @ an average of $22.16

This includes 6883 damaged pelts that averaged $1.91

I personally would never ship a damaged coyote fur.

We had 103 I believe on this sale that avg. almost 23 bucks each. A pile of 25-30 dollar ones. Have done worse on Alabama coyotes before.

Lynx sure didn't do well, except for the top lot of $220, whish still isn't that great.

Nope that's not to shiny

how is a lynx worth so much less than a bobble cat

Fashon today.They want the lighter weight stuff for garments and the HVY only for trim.

Spots and clear white bellies.

Leave it to the hillbillies down south to be upset that we didn’t send in the junk fur that Nafa clearly said do not send in. Lol

Lol
Maybe I missing something here but it appears the big improvement came the middle not on the top end or lower goods.
Not complaining either way, lol

When are nafa possum up

They I believe are Pt only along with skunks. I could be wrong but thought that is what I read.

Friday is Marten. We will see... ..

They are being offered via Private Treaty.

5,556 skins. Now is the chance for some one to corner the market!! Would make a great investment for some one with an extra $7,000.00 sitting around. LOL

I got over 3700 redfox,now is the time to corner the market,$130,000 would get you there,lol

That is a tremendous amount of work! Wow!

Chris

thats 4 years worth.

Can't even tell you how livid I am on the grades my coyotes got!!

I got SO screwed and am gonna make a call n do some digging!!

Well tell us what grade you got

I did pretty good on my northern MN coyotes. Of course, I am better at putting them up than I am a catching them. And I didn't put one up that didn't have a needle and thread put too it somewhere. I fix every ding .

what graded too high

sorry bucksnbears couldn t help it everyone happy with grades and prices but u

if anyone interested I had 1top lot at 610 us, 4in next 2 select lots, 15 in next no1 labeled lots for av of 128us so very happy. was about $5 over last year

If you have good coyotes yes,if you have bad coyotes no.

What zone are you in? Sounds like you are in the southern part of the province.

south central close to us border

we have quite crappy fox here mostly pl-xp but we have a lot of good coyotes

Yeppers that's what I figured.. No trees,sun bleached coyotes and good genetics at that end.

sorta of prob this year with no snow they were rubbing bad by end of dec . pulled all snares jan 1 so only got 1.5months

where in sask are u saskbone

I guess the old expression “you can’t make everyone happy”. Rings loud and clear!

Looks like another poor ranch mink year.

2016 $32 average (USDA)
2017 $35 average
2018 Somewhere between the two ( looks like )

How long can they keep doing this when break even is around $35 dollar average for mink farms?

Being from Kansas and watching 1000's of farmers continue to farm at below break even costs. I would say they could do it for 50- more years or so.

I'm sure they are no different then wild fur guys. Many of them are "above the sale avg"

Do mink farmers get the same kickbacks?

There are no subsidies for mink ranchers.
As to the question how long will they continue to produce and lose money each year? That really depends upon each ranch situation.
If you have 10 million invested in a medium sized ranch and due to the fact that there are no subsidies and that lenders are very cautious with such industries there may well be significant equity in the ranch and also savings etc. That means that if I sell 40K of mink per year and lose $6 a mink I will probably go at this for a while because divesting in the ranch during a low business cycle will cost them more than losing a quarter of a million per year. Also if they are US ranchers they have very good mink and they may be averaging in 40's which may be break even for them and they hope to hold out until numbers dwindle and prices rise. They have gone through as many if not more of these cycles than most trappers have so they know the drill.

Bryce

Bryce if you are losing $6 a mink wouldn't it be smart to at least decrease production?

FYI those are USDA numbers for U.S. producers.

Ever heard of a government subsidy to farmers? Most dont have to make a profit to keep going when the government sends them a welfare check annually.

The Govt. takes control of the grain, controls the world grain market, and uses grain as a political weapon against other countries. They don't do that with fur.

When are they going to sell the bobcats?

Yes, when are they going to sell bobcats?

Last thing this afternoon!

Hope the cats do well!

Well the last time ranch mink prices collapsed (and took us with them) was '97. It took 7 years to recover. Mink production basically never changed, but 25% or so of the farmers disappeared. What do we got 3 more years?

Yeah I am from Kansas so I am familiar with subsidies. I am also familiar as some of you may not be as to who gets them. Big corps and huge farmers profit from subsidies. Small farmers, which is he majority of folks in Kansas, do not. However, they still get jammed with $3 a bushel corn and crop insurance to protect it. Funny how people outside of the farming world think folks are getting welfare. That statement at best shows a lack of understanding and at worst just makes you stupid.

Meanwhile things don't look for long term.Tariffs getting placed next week on China for steel and aluminum of 25% and Russia with their new nuclear missle and threats to the US,if they start bringing in more sanctions,not good.

What time are bobcats scheduled to sell?

Helsinki has no problems with anyone. No visa needed to hop a train from St. Petersburg and buy fur. LLL

When their done with todays mink!

Thought you had work to do?lol

Absolutely it would be smart to reduce production, but that will probably add overhead costs on the mink you raise. One will be able to reduce the lower end of your price structure and thus raise your average. Most of the ranchers I know have and are doing this right now. There will be expansions by some of the vary solvent ranchers as breeding stock and used equipment etc. will be purchased for a song so tumbling prices creates opportunity for those that are successful. Many very good surviving ranches around us capitalized on the down times and really grew. There will always be those that will hang on doing the same thing until they can't anymore, just like any business.
Those with little or no debt will make that decision for themselves and those with more debt will have someone else make that decision for them.
I worked with 2-4 ranchers that had sizable ag loans and was able to get some handle on how the business runs in general but also by individuals. As in all businesses there are owners who love ranching mink but don't understand finances and in a time when the market is about bigger and more investment the poorer you are at managing money the less likely you will be successful. As these ranches expand to very large sizes like 250k pelted per year or more working with employees becomes a critical skill set and some just can't get that.

Bryce

cats in 5 minutes

I want to see a $2400 cat just once in my life.

Talk about a skewed grade 50% of bobcats grade SEL, 40% grade I.

Tough go on cats, first 3 pages, 60 lots, looks like 32 sold, 28 bought back.

spent all their money on sec 111 coyotes.

yup got pretty quiet after some of the better ones sold. lots of low-balling now.

Page 3 of cats and $160, $135, $130 lots sold.

Glad I sold all my north centrals at $160 average. Hate to see those prices when they come up.

Actually, a $2400.00 cat doesn't look that much different than a $1425.00 cat.

For the extra thousand dollars, the buyer gets extra perks, free advertising and a super cool plaque to hang in his/hers office.

The buyers are waiting to see how low they can get them for and hoping they can buy them for the reserve price private treaty. Easy to see when you watch the auction. If someone offers the reserve price during the auction it starts the bidding war because I think they all have the same idea. This definitely needs to be fixed.

How many are carried over from last season that didn't sell?

what keeps the war from spilling over into private treaty??

I agree, it is obvious they are hoping to shop in the clearance room. They don't want competition getting a deal though so they bid up if a bid gets thrown lol

Last July they only sold 43% of westerns. So a lot, I would guess.

Looks like I have found my new cat buyer.

Tbn if he paid prices like that for many your new buyer may be broke this time next year.

He does every year,just thankful to the guys that pointed me in that direction. There is money on the east coast.

Looks like the clear 1-2 bellies is all they want, Only one lot with 4-5 bellies and I was lucky enough to have one.

My coyotes averaged $60.50 my bobcats average $53.00 lol. I guess you win some and lose some.

had 7 cats in Canadian east lots had 2 @ 110. all sold. 77.14 average. Not what i was hoping for but at least they sold i guess. my coyotes were 71.04 lol.
never thought id see that

I sold one for 250 and one $280 the rest won't bring 40 apiece.

Train wreck

This morning I heard a NAFA pick-up man say that Select is fully prime.......Grade 1 isn't quite fully prime.
FWIW. I don't claim to know anything about it.

Congrats! I saw your down south. It would be cool to know where the top lot critters come from every year

"Lynx Cats sold 75% of the fresh goods with better qualities and colors achieving strong price advances over 2017. The average for Western Lynx Cats was $378.99 with a top price of $2,400.00."

Thanks 4 info Dirt. Where is Armpit,AK?

Just west of arreola

Internet post of the day! ^^^^^ LOL!

Chris

cat daddy ROCKS!

...do you have link for those numbers?

NAFA speak

yeah seen that but if you look at catalog.....that's not the numbers I get...hardly any "B" colored cats sold. in the first 100 lots which are the top cats 52 lots sold and 48 lots bought back....then prices get real bad from there.

I used to listen to Radio Moscow on the short wave back in the eighties. NAFA can be very similar.

NAFA has been spinning results this whole sale.

I am not seeing the 378 average on western cats, they need to post a true average of what sold at auction and private treaty imo

Won't ever happen. Sorry.

Sad really

Yep and I already see they are getting the reaction they hope for. More fur headed to Canada eh?

They also claim heavy coyotes are up over 20%. Well a year ago the heavy coyote at nafa avgeraged $2 more. The July sale for heavy was 16% less then this week. Which would be expected of a July collection since it would be the worst collection of the season

What is going on today

Ranch mink, then sable/marten, then ranch fox.

Looks like the mink sale is going to need some creative analysis. I hope marten don't.

they got this

When do fisher sell

Fisher sell tomorrow - Saturday.

End of day. After 1.2 million ranch mink.

They got extra creative with the Marten. 10% or so of the Semis are XXL and averaged somewhere around $80. The XLs averaged $56.74( maybe 25%) the LGs averaged $36.65 65% or so of the offering.

The semis overall average is higher than the XL's at $57.58.

Sounds bout right lol

Lots of resistance this morning; only the biggest & best. Heavy emphasis on biggest, 4-0,3-0. Mins are tight though.

How did fisher sell

http://www.nafa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/MAR-3-2018-Auction-Report.pdf

In general were the ranch mink prices considered poor at this sale?

Overall OK, but clearances were tough, nobody is really making money at these levels. In fact most are losing money. Males in most cases above production cost but females mainly below.
Still a lot of mink to be sold in the world this year.
Mink99 would give us a better perspective.

Why does their report say 1.1 million mink sold at premium prices then?

Because today they sold the black mink today which are regarded as the best ranch mink in the world.
My comment is about the overall sale, which started last Monday and will finish tomorrow. Some colors had a lot rougher ride with less than 100% clearances.
Overall NAFA offered 4.2 million mink this week plus the wild fur.

Gibb that makes sense. I didn’t know that’s why I asked thanks for clearing that up.

Gibb is prettty much spot on. Basically if you had big mink of good quality a rancher did okay though they are probably still in the red.

The black males seem to be at the same levels of last February and the black females a little higher. The black top lots were out of this world. I wish the top lot selection was like wild fur and everybody had a chance instead of just one rancher getting the majority of the top lots. Lots of politics in the ranch mink industry.

Overall the prices are okay but need to be higher and there were more buybacks this sale than last year. I have to say, to me, the Kopenhagen sale was a little better as they had fewer buybacks. But their mink are bigger and that makes a huge difference.

So if a Blackgamma Size 1 female 1 SN averages $42.66 in Feb 2017 and then averages $37.36 in March 2018 that is an increase (premium)?

or if nap average is $27.72,$36.83, $27.14,$20.12 for 1X,1,2,3 naps in 2017 then $25.19, $31.42, $23.73, $18.20 in 2018 prices are up?

It's new math, Dirt.

Wy type Marten, what did they avg?

So the auction is over. Donprivate treaty deals continue or are they over as well

I will ask, my quick answer would be in the 30 to 35 dollar range know that they are in the lower end of the collection but I could easily be wrong. I am going by my marten that are in the southern end of the range which averaged $37 vs my marten from further north which averaged $55.I don't have the big Northern type like in Alaska.
Jim

PT sales will be closed off in a couple of days for this sale, but continue up until the next auction. Once a skin has been auctioned and BB it is on the PT catalogue until the next sale.

Thanks ebsurveyor, my guess is in the range.
Jim

Didn't nafa auction possum, sale over an catalogs say, to be auctioned for possum

Possum were offered private Treaty at this sale.