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Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs

Posted By: Teacher

Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:47 AM

If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:52 AM

It's unrealistic to think that President Donald Trump can get everything he wants from other countries, without some compromise. Giving in on some things is just part of making a great deal. Look at what President Trump has done for the economy, unemployment rate and American confidence.

Keith
Posted By: Marty

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 05:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Teacher
If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days.


laugh
Posted By: nightlife

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 09:43 AM

China has been putting pressure on NK to come to the table with the US favors for favors and
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 10:44 AM

“The Art of the Deal”
Posted By: birdman640

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 11:54 AM

It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!
Posted By: nightlife

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: birdman640
It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!


Wrong there are a lot of things he has done that I dislike and I say so , and yes I other for him cause use the alternative was worse

But I for one understand there is give and take in any negotiation and the end is what one has to be concerned with and NK with nukes is not something I want
Posted By: huntcook

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:02 PM

We have to no one else will.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Teacher
If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days.


We know how reliable the news is. lol

I don't see Trump giving up a billion dollar life style to be ridiculed and peed on by liberals and the media every day if he didn't want to help Americans. So if you're story were true, which I doubt, there is most likely something in it for us. MAGA is what I believe he's truly trying to do. No one is perfect but he's much better than the other choice we had IMO.
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:12 PM

Mark my words... it will turn out good for the USA and the same news outlets the reported this story won't report it when it does.
Posted By: Riverotter2

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:14 PM

Well I know car plants, steel mills and coal mines are again hiring down here. New homes are going up. Maybe this is a slow reaction to the great Obama Administration but I kind of doubt it....My kids and my brothers kids have great paying jobs now, nice homes and just had a nephew who left a high paying job for another one. I know Trump not perfect but sure beat that idiot we had for the last eight years.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: birdman640
It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!


It doesn't matter what he does, it will be wrong for those who did not vote for him. The news media does not like him because he made the look like fools and they want him out. JMO
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:30 PM

Economy in my little part of the world is definately better .
Posted By: LLtrapper

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:34 PM

Teachers should stick to educating our children in reading, writing, arithmetic and throw in a little civics as well as studying the constitution and should keep their liberal ideas and socialist values out of the classroom. This country is sick of bad trade deals that have killed millions of good jobs. This POTUS knows way more about trade than the last city planner we had running the country into the toilet. Thank God Hillary did not get elected. She would have done the paper work and flushed. Fair Trade not bad trade. LLL
Posted By: LLtrapper

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By: birdman640
It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!


It does not matter what he does because the left wing media will spin it in a bad light. 93% of the fake news is negative against the President of the United States. What they don't realize is we are on to them and the ones who elected him think the media are liars. LLL
Posted By: LLtrapper

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ~ADC~
Originally Posted By: Teacher
If memory serves, ZTE was told they would be banned from selling anything is the US market place if they sold anything to North Korea. They did, the Trump administration found out about it and sanctioned them just like they said they would. It looks like the Chinese have asked the Trump administration to ease up on the sanctions because ZTE had to lay off too many people. And Trump is going to ease the restrictions so China doesn’t lose so many jobs. WHAT GIVES??? When did the Chinese ever change their rules to help American job holders??? It was all over the news in the last couple days. Looks like our president has a soft spot for both Russia and China these days.


We know how reliable the news is. lol

I don't see Trump giving up a billion dollar life style to be ridiculed and peed on by liberals and the media every day if he didn't want to help Americans. So if you're story were true, which I doubt, there is most likely something in it for us. MAGA is what I believe he's truly trying to do. No one is perfect but he's much better than the other choice we had IMO.


One thing we agree on. LLL
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:38 PM

My understanding is 20% of parts for these phones come from the US, and also this is a bargaining chip to have the Chinese lay off ag. tariffs.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:47 PM

Mr. President......he is doing a good job, unlike the last few.
Posted By: Riverotter2

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 12:57 PM

Another thing in the last year I don't feel like I need to go out and buy up all the ammo I can find. Remember not long ago how hard it was just to find a 22 round.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 01:02 PM

I'm surprised no one brought up a 2012 Intelligence report outlining that ZTE poses a risk to US national security.


House Intelligence Report
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 01:05 PM

For those that don't want to go through the whole thing just skip to page 53 of the pdf (45 of the document) where it begins to list recommendations.

Intelligence Report
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Lugnut
“The Art of the Deal”



This
Posted By: racerboy108

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: birdman640
It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!


And where do you think we would be if that Hillary thing got elected?
Posted By: hippie

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 01:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Tweed
For those that don't want to go through the whole thing just skip to page 53 of the pdf (45 of the document) where it begins to list recommendations.

Intelligence Report


And Obama did what about it?
Same as he did when he was warned Russia was messing with our last election?

MAGA!!!!!!!!!! laugh

Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 01:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Lugnut
“The Art of the Deal”
Exactly right, give something to get what you want. To many folks don't understand give and take, that's politics. The world is not black and white, it's the big grey area that confuses and infuriates people, but you still have to figure out a way to navigate through it. Like buying or raising fur today, or trapping for that matter.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:05 PM

President Trump has made more successful deals that are good for America in his first year and a half in office and then any of the past several presidents combined during their entire terms.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: birdman640
It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!


The numbers don't lie unless you're blind.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: racerboy108
Originally Posted By: birdman640
It doesn't matter what TRUMP does, you people that voted for him will justify it!!!!!!!!


And where do you think we would be if that Hillary thing got elected?



One thing for sure, we'd be in the fight of our lives to keep our guns.
Posted By: Catch22

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:15 PM

Originally Posted By: LLtrapper
Teachers should stick to educating our children in reading, writing, arithmetic and throw in a little civics as well as studying the constitution and should keep their liberal ideas and socialist values out of the classroom. This country is sick of bad trade deals that have killed millions of good jobs. This POTUS knows way more about trade than the last city planner we had running the country into the toilet. Thank God Hillary did not get elected. She would have done the paper work and flushed. Fair Trade not bad trade. LLL

X2! well said!!
Posted By: kingrat

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:35 PM

Be thankful you don't have our moron who's to busy hanging out with terrorist and making apologies for stuff that happened 100 years ago than running a country. Our economy is dead and going no where fast with him at the wheel.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 04:41 PM

We had that for eight years during the last administration.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: hippie
Originally Posted By: Tweed
For those that don't want to go through the whole thing just skip to page 53 of the pdf (45 of the document) where it begins to list recommendations.

Intelligence Report


And Obama did what about it?
Same as he did when he was warned Russia was messing with our last election?

MAGA!!!!!!!!!! laugh



Ah! Finally someone sees it....there's not much difference between Obama and Trump other than rhetoric.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 05:18 PM

Except that President Trump has done more good for this country in a year and a half then Obama did during his entire administration. Other than that, you’re probably right…
Posted By: hippie

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 05:24 PM

LOL, Tweed, Your the guy who doesn't "see it".

Trump, unlike Obama did put sanctions on them. You know, the ones he may loosen and ya'll are crying about?
Posted By: Hal

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Riverotter2
Another thing in the last year I don't feel like I need to go out and buy up all the ammo I can find. Remember not long ago how hard it was just to find a 22 round.


Stock up Steve, it ain't gonna last.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: hippie
LOL, Tweed, Your the guy who doesn't "see it".

Trump, unlike Obama did put sanctions on them. You know, the ones he may loosen and ya'll are crying about?
Why would he loosen sanctions against a company that is a threat to national security? Didn't Obama do the same with Iran?

Did you even read the report?
Posted By: RM trapper

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 06:53 PM

I know nothing about this company, but I own a small business and for the last 8 years people have called asking for a job weekly, now everyone has work and there has been over 100 building permits this year in my little area. Things sure are better than it was
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:00 PM

During the Bush and Obama years, our food shelf was providing food for 80-100 families per month and that number remained consistent. This month we served 56 families.
The number has been dropping since last winter. In asking, we are finding that many have found work and are not in need of food like they were.
Posted By: hippie

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Tweed
Originally Posted By: hippie
LOL, Tweed, Your the guy who doesn't "see it".

Trump, unlike Obama did put sanctions on them. You know, the ones he may loosen and ya'll are crying about?
Why would he loosen sanctions against a company that is a threat to national security? Didn't Obama do the same with Iran?

Did you even read the report?


Why didn't Obama even put sanctions on them, after reading your report that was written for him?
Posted By: hippie

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:08 PM

Iran, lol, that a good one Tweed! You don't even want to go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess the first thing that needs answered about your report is....... Why didn't Obama do anything about it? You answer that, and then we can talk about why Trump is backing off sanctions Trump himself put on them.

Till then, stop digging, that hole your in is getting deep.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:11 PM

Man Hippie....you really sound like one of the liberals when Obama was first elected...."but but but Bush" "but Bush did this" "but Bush didn't do that" just so they could make their guy look good.

You ultra political types both conservative and liberal are all the same....
Posted By: Snowpa

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: KeithC
It's unrealistic to think that President Donald Trump can get everything he wants from other countries, without some compromise. Giving in on some things is just part of making a great deal. Look at what President Trump has done for the economy, unemployment rate and American confidence.

Keith


Absolutely , And Teacher its called PR.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:34 PM

Originally Posted By: hippie
Iran, lol, that a good one Tweed! You don't even want to go there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess the first thing that needs answered about your report is....... Why didn't Obama do anything about it? You answer that, and then we can talk about why Trump is backing off sanctions Trump himself put on them.

Till then, stop digging, that hole your in is getting deep.


Originally Posted By: Tweed
Man Hippie....you really sound like one of the liberals when Obama was first elected...."but but but Bush" "but Bush did this" "but Bush didn't do that" just so they could make their guy look good.

You ultra political types both conservative and liberal are all the same....


Excellent dodge to hippie’s question!
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:39 PM

I don't know why Obama didn't do anything about this national security concern....don't know why Trump did do something about it but is now backing down.


I also don't understand the point of his question since I am no fan of Obama. Its a very grade school rebuttal that he gives just like liberals give...."but but but the previous guy did/didn't xyz"

Fan boys will be fan boys though....Obama and Trump both definitely have a personality cult.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 07:41 PM

So....has anyone read the report? Does anyone have concern regarding ZTE? What is your opinion of this national security threat? Obama isn't in control anymore so stop using him as an excuse and Hillary's emails shouldn't effect Trump's actions/inactions. LOL
Posted By: hippie

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 08:05 PM

With all do respect, you don't want to hear the answer, because a gradeschool kid could figure it out from what i've, and others have brought to your attention already. smile
Posted By: Hal

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: hippie
With all do respect, you don't want to hear the answer, because a gradeschool kid could figure it out from what i've, and others have brought to your attention already. smile


You flatter yourself.
Posted By: hippie

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/16/18 08:26 PM

cool
Posted By: Teacher

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/17/18 12:47 PM

Just to clarify, I don’t teach in the regular school system. I do teach food safety classes to restaurant managers. It’s an 8-hour certification class plus 2-hour exam and I’ve done it up to 50 times a year. In addition I’ve taught English at the middle school and college levels in China though that was years ago. Today, my teaching is in regards to restaurant managers based on onsite audit findings. Using “teacher” as a handle seems to make everyone think in terms of their own education or that of their kids. However, there are those of us who teach beyond that level of classroom.

I just find the pre-election rhetoric about saving American jobs, and the post-election rhetoric of saving foreign jobs ironic. Given the choices of who to vote for: someone who took personally attacking others for their actions to a new level vs someone who hid her actions in tens of thousands of private emails and lied about it not much of a choice. We ended up with a person who has been identified as having given us over 3,000 outright lies or mistruths in his time as president and I don’t know now which one would have been worse. But we have a president who plays golf every weekend instead of actively leading the country (after publicly chiding Obama about playing golf 8 times in his 8 years as president). We elected him and now we have to live with that decision.
Posted By: corky

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/17/18 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Teacher
Just to clarify, I don’t teach in the regular school system. I do teach food safety classes to restaurant managers. It’s an 8-hour certification class plus 2-hour exam and I’ve done it up to 50 times a year. In addition I’ve taught English at the middle school and college levels in China though that was years ago. Today, my teaching is in regards to restaurant managers based on onsite audit findings. Using “teacher” as a handle seems to make everyone think in terms of their own education or that of their kids. However, there are those of us who teach beyond that level of classroom.

I just find the pre-election rhetoric about saving American jobs, and the post-election rhetoric of saving foreign jobs counterproductive. Given the choices of who to vote for: someone who took personally attacking others for their actions to a new level vs someone who hid her actions in tens of thousands of private emails and lied about it not much of a choice. We ended up with a person who has been identified as having given us over 3,000 outright lies or mistruths in his time as president and I don’t know now which one would have been worse. But we have a president who plays golf every weekend instead of actively leading the country (after publicly chiding Obama about playing golf 8 times in his 8 years as president). We elected him and now we have to live with that decision.


I'm happy we made the right decision of the two choices.
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: Trump helping Chinese company ZTE save jobs - 05/17/18 12:57 PM

I don't care what any politician says cause they all LIE, I care what they do.
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