fake news

I am curious to get your opinions on your definition of "Fake news".

CNN is a prefect example.

Yesterday after Trumps cabnet briefed the press on what they are doing about Russia meddling in our elections i switched on CNN.

Instantly, they started asking how Trump can call the probe into colussion a witch hunt when his own people say Russia meddled. He doesn't say that Russia didn't meddle, just that the probe is a witch hunt but they ball it all togeather.

Just a few minutes ago, they covered his GREAT job and GDP numbers....for about 4 seconds before they started to bash him about other things. Even something good turns to bashing within 5 seconds, never fails so to me that's a biased station which in turn i call a "fake news station".

Anything written as a op-ed but being put out there as truth. Used to be journalist went after anybody to get the truth on them, exposing the nitty gritty and running the story for the readers to know the truth. Now, they make up stories or have personal ideologies they print as truth, but are lies or a op-ed. The press is DEAD!

Go to www.yahoo.com and read the "news"! 90% is Flat out BS to make you keep clicking so they get paid, and the rest is slanted to fit the posters agenda.

I was out at the farm this morning and my mom had a news channel on (don’t know which one)and they were talking about the meddling and had sounds bites of Trump saying “we had a great meeting” injected in it. IMO, countries have been trying to influence elections for many years, if there so darn concerned about it, why aren’t they on the news everyday demanding a way to fix it and eleminate it. They report all these other countries are making fun of us because our President just happens to be a brash and not beat around the political correct tree type of person. Yet the media has been crying for over a year about this meddling. Instead of saying “hey we have a problem that has happened, how are we going to fix it. If asked, the citizens of other countries are probably laughing at our media more so than our President, truth be told. Doubt they will report that though.

Comey goes on TV and reads a laundry list of Hildabeast violations and then says he will do nothing about it but others would of been prosecuted for the same actions.

Most of the MSM says he said, "she did nothing wrong"!

You can tell it's fake when you see their lips moving.

Media has given their integrity away and use their position to influence their agendas.

Real news is dead it's all opinions not based on facts, even the old timers have embraced the loose style of todays news to stay relevant, just a bunch of spoiled children whining about everything they don't like the truth has nothing to do with it they ignore it at will.

Constantly bashing Trump, his family, his associates no matter the good things he is doing for this country and constantly praising the democrats, leftist, Obama and their cohorts no matter what trash comes out of their mouths is called fake news.

Anything that starts with a line of "I READ ON FACEBOOK".

Hidden agenda professionally broadcast to brainwash anyone with an IQ less than 110

When the remains of our soldiers came back from Korea,
abc spent 24 seconds reporting it, cbs and nbc didn't mention it.
There absolutely shouldn't be left wing or right wing news agencies,
they should all be omnipotent period.

So looking at the posts and trying to cook down the definitions as best I can here is what the results are so far.

Biased=fake (7 votes so far)

Op-ed or opinion pieces= fake (1 vote)

All news= fake news (1 vote)

Social media = fake news (1 vote)


Biased news seems to be the top issue at this point. My question is shouldn't biased news be called "biased news" vs "fake news"? If biased news equals fake news then that means any biased news is fake news. Right or left. Fox is a known right biased organization as much as NPR is biased left. So if NPR is fake, then FOX is fake also if biased news=fake news.

If we try to say this particular (insert your favorite) news is biased in a direction I agree with so it isn't fake, then truth means nothing. Truth is relative to the viewer. How can a society function when we as people reject information as "fake" when it doesn't fit our preconceived (less informed) view? Shouldn't we call biased news "biased news" rather than fake? Or opinion pieces should be called 'opinion pieces"?

All major news services are pushing an agenda so a person could argue that all major news service news is essentially fake.

There is no unbiased reporting that I know of. Fox is just as bad as cnn just different or at least they were in 2008 when I discarded tv service.

Biased, truth twisting/half truth giving, agenda driven, Obama was the best president ever, Clinton is innocent.

News is not news anymore, it's the opinion of who ever is talking.

Lol

While we are here:

Have you seen where they are actually making Trump derangement syndrome a sickness via lawyers? No joke! After multiple attacks on Trump supporters. Lawyers are actually using it as a defense!

whoopi goldburg has it

Watch what happens after this upcoming election.. If things go as they look like they will.. Russian collusion and Illegal aliens will be at the back of the line of things to whine about !!
Anybody remember the Dreamers !!! It's all emotion based and whatever they think will stir us to fight each other instead of keep an eye on the them . I'm absolutely tickled to death with our president. At the very least he's doing something for the country instead of stealing and bankrolling himself instead !!
I saw last night that the unemployment rate was the lowest in 18 years !!! Why isn't that the top story !!!! Instead it was a short one liner and then gone.. That's the real sad state of things now, we don't even get the good news when it happens..

Any "news" story that begins with: "unnamed sources say that....." is fake. I hear this phrase quite frequently, primarily on MSPMS, CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS.

Only the POTUS is allowed to tell us or tweet what fake news is..Everyone else is just not smart enough to figure it out.. Come one people it's all crap! It became fake when it went 24 hr looped and for entertainment not information. Add all the slanted mouth piece, blow hards and it's all crap!
About all you can believe is the local news now days. Where ya already know the story before it's reported because you saw it happen.


Mac

This


Sad part is that what they spew isn't even good satire.

Reporting that is purposeful in its intent to mislead.

Creative editing of what was actually said, to change the meaning of what was actually said, to convince people who don't watch what was originally said, to follow the left, is most of the fake news.

Keith

If the POTUS had used the term "biased" it would have been more accurate and acceptable. How come almost all the TV networks seem to be "left" and maybe only FOX is on the right? Could they all be that biased? Maybe they aren't. They do all get suckered into the Days Of Our Lives soap box reporting though on crap that doesn't even matter. Unfortunately twitter messages tend to make everything matter when it shouldn't.

The word "fake" is not the issue here. We deal with all kinds of fake stuff in many aspects of our lives every day. It is the word "news" that is the real issue here. In a world that values spin more than fact or politics over science why would we even think we would get news without there being a huge bent to it? A leaning I can handle but a 90 degree or a 180 is not what I would call news. Many of us fought for our 1st amendment rights I just did not fully understand that it was put out for bid by the highest bidders when I did fight for that right.

Bryce

The mainstream media is owned and controlled by the wannabe new world order globalist government. They do not care about the United States and Trump has ruined their plans. They get their talking point every morning at 4 a.m. (so I have heard) and they all get the same message. They change the phrases a little so it doesn't look exactly the same..but.. it is exactly the same. We all know this has been the case for a long time. The last administration could do no wrong. This one can do no good.

If you would like to see for yourself you can research it in open source. These folks will welcome all patriots. https://qanon.pub/ WWG1WGA

The news is definitely slanted and spun based upon the news network’s leanings. It’s sometimes hard to believe that Fox News and MSNBC are reporting stories from the same galaxy when you watch their broadcasts on any given night.

Something else I’ve observed is how the reported news is often wrong on many of the details of a story. I’ve been involved with a few mining stories that were reported on tv and in the newspaper. I was in a position to know the details of the events reported....what made the “news” wasn’t remotely accurate. Magnify that times all the other stories reported and you end up with an hour’s worth of nonsense passed off as the truth.

POTUS got the term "fake News" direct from the leftist media. They made that term up to attack internet news sources when they constantly (the main stream media) got caught lying. I was stationed in GTMO when the whole waterboarding thing was hot. The only station to accurately report what was going on in GTMO was fox news... I lived the story so on this small case I can definitively say CNN, MSNBC,ABC, NBC faked the news about GTMO...

It's funny the guy that said that any news found on facebook is fake. Facebook, Twitter and the like are about the only places to get real news nowadays, besides C-span.

The days of a reporter investigating an issue and presenting the facts, minus his/her own opinion, are gone. And yes, that goes for Fox just as much as CNN. It's all fake, but those that DO watch the news usually choose to watch one that is biased towards his or her personal beliefs.

So, imo, the only way there is now to get real news, is to investigate the issues yourself and make up your own mind, which is where facebook and twitter come in handy. Examples of things I watch on social media are clips from C-span, local and national political debates and speeches, the President's rallies, the press secretary's releases, news clips (from any station, right or left) that actually show congressmen or fbi agents, or whoever speaking themselves. Things like that... things that can't really be fake because it's the actual person saying whatever he or she is saying, opposed to someone else telling you what they said and what they meant.

As for other things you might hear on the news, such as mainly numbers... being they pertain to the GDP, unemployment, the dow, crime rates whatever... can easily be researched yourself to verify if what is being said on the news is true.

So basically in my opinion, watching the news is fine. I do sometimes... and sometimes it will be fox, and other times cnn or msnbc. Usually, the "news" on fox vs cnn is complete opposites of each other... so that's when it's time to look further into the issue yourself.

The "fair and balanced" label foxnews tries to give itself is the most fake of all things fake. They are very bit as bad CNN or Msnbc. It is hard to believe anyone can watch any single "news" source and think they get the whole story.

keith c is correct about the creative editing, and angela is right about looking into scenarios yourself, preferably before opening your mouth. trump made a statement like "I hate that these kids are being separated.....". this past week his words were turned around, and it was stated that he'd said "I hate these kids that are separated…." he went from hating the separation, to hating the kids.

I couldn't believe all the people that glommed onto this crap, and it continued to escalate, until finally someone straightened it out. all the "haters" disappeared immediately.

yes you can find real news on facebook, but you still need to verify what youre reading there.

Was just gonna say.
Krinkle will be along shortly to clear this all up

Yes, good thing grackle came along to let us know that FOXNews is the fakest of the fakers! LOL

Somebody certainly should. I hate to see anyone be made a fool of by believing that fox is fair and balanced. They are every bit a fake as any of them, but at least the others don't make the F&B claim. It is the most fake of all fake claims.

Msnbc and fox and different sides of the same coin.

Just maybe the real issue is not what is offered to us by any of the media news orgs, it is what we choose to believe. We make choices as individuals and we need to live with those good, bad and or ugly. If progressive and conservative news organizations can make good money convincing any of us what we should or should not believe then the are accomplishing their goals in our capitalistic media based world.

Bryce

100% correct. But it seems that many want there to be a team they can believe is all good and the rest are all bad. They do it with news sources just like they do with political parties.

It isn't necessarily that lies are told or that facts are omitted.

Facts can be slanted depending on the phrase(s) used to present them...

If you don't believe certain words or phrases are chosen to paint a chosen picture of the facts at hand... I've got a bridge and a few national monuments I'll sell you at a great price.

As far as local news goes... Look at the graphics they display behind the anchors as they read the copy. Especially if the story line involves firearms.

If you don't think there is an agenda to program your perceptions you need to pay more attention.

Mike

If Trump walked on water,the dems would say "look,Trump cant swim".

Not really. They'd probably figure he was walking on top his wall in the middle of the Rio Grande.

Fake news started with 60 minutes 1hr segment on the fur trade and trapping. Fake news has been around a long time. Just more of it. And lots of it.

Here's another good artical that points out the "fake news" ignoring the obvious, that Fox news has been reporting on for over a year.

Sooner or later, they will have to deal with this, i just can't wait to see how CNN and the others break into it after avoiding it for this long. The libs will crack when they do, lol.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

Fake news is great: You can present your opinions as being fact and can pick and choose words to slant things any way you want.

Note: I edited to change the period I had at end of the first sentence to a colon. That was to guard against fake news. To make it so that if anyone wanted to quote just the first sentence they could not do so without bastardizing the punctuation.

I listen to a few minutes each of CNN, FoxNews and MSNBC each morning just to see what spin is being put on what. This morning Joe Scarborough was all aghast because Trump offers a 15% discount on golf balls to federal employees at one of his golf courses.

When one of the talking heads in the panel pointed out that it didn't seem like a very big deal, the rest quickly assured her that it was indicative of the rampant corruption that has plagued this administration.

I was laughing when I turned it off. The really sad part is, there are millions of Americans who believe this crap. Some of them are even T-man members. It boggles my mind!

It's gonna get good if we keep the house Lugnut. Not sure how many have been fired yet for rigging the investigations, but not near enough!!

Goes all the way to the top of the last administration too.

Most of what is called news has little to do with the presentation of all known facts related to the topic being covered.
What is being passed off as news by most stations is little different than sensationalized, self-promoting, opinion pieces.

With the rise of personalities like rush limbaugh, media outlets saw that there was an eager audiance that would suck up all the venom spewed by such folks and it led to "news" programming that is meant to appeal to the extremist on both sides of politics.
Many listeners have become so wrapped up in their listening that it has become more like brainwashing than being informed. It has served to further divide Americans and has many of us looking to find reasons we are different rather than trying to find things that should bring us together for the good of this great country.

I agree, the liberal house of corrupt cards has only begun to fall.

Grackle, why are your monologues always skewed hard to the left? You single out Rush Limbaugh for spewing venom but conveniently forget to mention the likes of Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Al Sharpton, Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, and dozens and dozens more on the left that do the exact same thing. The right has relatively few prominent commentators because the left owns the media. Yet you focus on one of the few?

lug, you read into what is posted what you will. you conveniently over looked the fact that I said rush was one of the first personalities to gain a wide audience for a show such as his, and also that I said BOTH sides of the political isle followed. Maybe you didn't notice that rush was on the scene before the others you mentioned.

The far left AND the far right seem to have been brainwashed to a point that does will not allow themselves to see the damage that is done by extremist views that place all Americans with views that differ from their own as enemies....Maybe that is why you read into post things that are not there??

Yep Grackle, i agree.
You need to come off your far left and see that what i posted is correct and the news you watch is FAKE.

I watch many different "news" outlets. None are further from being fair OR balance than fox and msnbc. Of course many viewers of each have been drawn in to a point where they are blind to it.

It's comical to see the way some will cheer for their favorite "news" broadcasting station and politician the way others cheer for their favorite sports team.

LOL

Yea, right

It's also comical to watch you try to avoid the investors daily link, not a Fox link i posted.

They are coming around, may take more people getting fired for people like you to believe what Fox has been reporting for over a year, but it's coming!

Countries have been meddling in each other elections for a long time. Obama meddled in Israel's elections trying to stop Netanyahu's re-election. America has tried to influence the outcome in a number of other country's elections in the past.

You always say that when nothing could be farther from the truth. You are correct about NBC. But FOX is the most balanced of them all. While it's true FOX leans farther to the right than the others who don't lean right at all. The difference is that FOX also has commentators that definitely lean left such as former Alan Combs, Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, former D-Sen Bye, Geraldo Rivera, the guy from the Daily Beast, etc. Name some right-leaning commentators on the other stations. You can't because they only lean left.

The guy reporting on CBS the other day reporting on them neighbors of Adam's down in NM living in the desert at the end he said there was no proof of the kids being trained to be school shooters? Why would he say that except to enhance the story more then it was and to plant the seed.

Couldn't believe it.Watched while he read off felony after felony,,,then says well I don't think anyone should prosecute.Thats when you realize just how bad corruption is.That and Bengazi.

Yep that's when you realize everything you were taught growing up was a lie and with the way the DOJ is run that is scary too!

Amazing what one inept person can screw up in just 8 years!

Mike Wallace being the only exception I've seen there, fox only reports what they believe makes the far right look good. Their news is so slanted to the right that anyone who uses it as the sole source for information is as close to uninformed as one can be.

I think when donald said he could shoot somebody and get away with it the people at fox(and many of their viewers) were the type he was talking about.

"The guy reporting on cbs", this guy works fast! It sounds like he has all the information, completed his investigation and has it all wrapped up ahead of Law Authorities. This is typical for a "Fake News" network...

Many of the old school reports are playing the fools today to stay relevant in the business, with many that were on the right are now kissing serious butt to keep their jobs with the left owed station outlets. If not for Fox many people would be chanting what they were told with a 1000 yard stare and not know any better.

How you can watch and not see the bias just amazes me with the innuendos, rumors, lies and just flat out unbacked opinions.



Do you think Hillary did nothing wrong?

Yet Fox has more negative stories about Trump then positive.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/eri...m=.7085fc3a423c

They just don't go to calling his wife and family names like the others so their not committed! LOL

Those red and green bars don’t include a significant portion of the coverage that Shorenstein categorized as “neutral.”

Much of what is catagorized as "neutral" might better be categorized as "just the plain, unadorned FACTS", which is what news should be.

How often do you hear facts and how often are they opinions today?

I think the non-reporting is more of an issue than the "fake" news.

There have been over 11 terrorist attacks in western civilization in the last "24" hours. If they have been reported on at all? Not one mention of Muslim or Islam has been mentioned! Everything from the kids being held captive to vehicular man slaughter.

Actually, it's a combination of fake, non, leaving key facts out in an effort to promote The new Democratic or lefty world view.

Lord

Plz be with America in the Nov elections! We won't survive a democracy take over!

Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough were conservatives now that their outlets changed to liberal they are riding that train like a pro! LOL JOB SECURITY Sell your soul to keep that job.

Worse yet

There is legislation in the works to make all social media a utility to be controlled by govt. To put that into perspective:. Trump would not have won nor be able to communicate with his base effectively with out social media. Because of how biased our main stream media is! Not that social media isn't censorsoring conservative speech. But govt intervention and regulation would surely shut conservative view points down all together! All hour little off the main stream news outlets would be shut down over nite due to permits, over bearing regulation, etc....

Guess with party is pushing the legislation to make social media a utility. Yeah, the Democrats!

I do think social media needs to be broken somehow. How? I dunno! But it don't need to be handed to our govt!!!!!!!!

This website and others like it would be regulated under proposed legislation!

Any and all social media!

Fox has a number of people that are libs and are always knocking Trump. I can't think of ANY conservatives on the other networks. Over 90% negative on the news when it concerns Trump, but in reality it's just some knuckleheads opinion.

What is the bill number so we can write and call our employees, I mean congressmen?

I dunno

I don't think it will gain steam unless DEM's do well in Nov.

Oh ok. Let’s pray they lose seats.

I know I will be!

Dunno

Swamp rats on both sides. They all want more power. That's what it's about in the long run I think. Control of info equals control of vote. I could see the reublicrats signing something into law that would fit the Democrats agenda simply because they are establishment looking for a life long power trip and pay check! It's the radicals up there that hate the American way of life, Constitution, capitalism, etc... That I'd worry about abusing it once they have it.

Watch for it though.

It's no joke! DEM's are drafting it as we speak.

I always keep watching. My State has two worthless senators and one pretty worthless representative. Although she does actually respond personally. Unlike the two senators and their form letters. They are corporate shills. My State is controlled by one county and it is a constant battle.

Don’t worry, my state senators and representatives know me and get calls and emails all the time. My district is thankfully conservative and supports the rights of individuals. They also realize they are the representatives of the people, not special interests.


I really want term limits.

Do a little research into ICANN
Then you will understand a whole lot of what is going on with the internet.
You will have to search to find it.
Obummer gave our rights to the internet away in 16

The leftist want us to worry about the russians interfering with our elections, it is the left! They start indoctrination of our children in kindergarten now. When they reach college, if any other views are presented, they resort to threats and violence? The very bias mass media pushes the left progressive agenda hard and feeds us misinformation(Fake News), the social media venues does the same also! Conservative views are being deterred or even eliminated on social media... the left is interfering!

Drain the Swamp this November!

This morning’s review of the big three cable news outlets: CNN reporting Trump insults the intelligence of blacks much more than whites despite Whitehouse claims that he is an “equal opportunity insulter.” They even had a graph! MSNBC lamenting how Republican candidates “suck up” to Trump due to what they (MSNBC) consider Trump’s stranglehold on the Republican party. FoxNews reporting the indentity of the Westminster terror attack suspect: Salih Khater from Sudan.

"equal opportunity insulter" yep, he is. And I find it really funny when the talking heads spend time talking about it

Lol

Black voter support for Trump is up to I wanna say 49% from like 15% from election.

Hard to knock the guy getting it done even Stevie Wonder could see that! Omarosa said he was not a racist before but now he is, the same on that trash talked him once she left the Whitehouse. LOL

So what is a lie and what's real anymore? I think she is just distancing herself to create more opportunities in her future. You don't need much credibility to do the news and late night circuits.

She will wind up in jail for recording conversations! Law suits already been filed.

She isn't distancing herself. She is adding insult to injury. She was canned for being stupid and now she is proving it!

Good guys are starting to grow back bones again!

If Mike Wallace is the only one you've ever seen on there, you've almost never watched FOX and aren't qualified to make a judgmental decision. Juan Williams is so far left and is a regular on FOX. The others I named are also and there are more. Still waiting for you to name some far right conservatives that are regulars on ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, etc. I've challenged you with this before and you're never able to back up your comparisons.

I'll keep watching FOX since they may lean more right than the others, but can rightfully claim to be more balanced than the others.

Exactly! FOX reports both sides on the story not just the side that fits their left agenda. The left believes it's racist to report 11 terrorist attacks.

Mike Wallace is not a lib, he just isn't as extreme right as the others.

you're right, he's a neocon, part of the establishment, a never trumper.... figures you'd come to his defense.

I voted for trump. It's his behavior since the election that has me believing he's in over his head. If it weren't for the cozy relationship with foxnews, his numbers would be lucky to be in the teens.

This morning's preview:

MSNBC talking head Andrea Mitchell claims the revocation of former CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance "put all the brave men and women in the intelligence community around the world at risk." They ran a short piece with a graphic showing Brennan's New York Times piece where he asserts "Trump's claims of no Russian collusion are hogwash."

CNN parroting MSNBC and interviewing former National Intelligence Director James Clapper who tried weakly to defend Brennan's statements.

FoxNews talking about New York city mayor Andrew Cuomo's statement "America was never that great" and running a list of quotes by prominent liberals like Elizabeth Warren. Bernie Sanders and others making hateful statements about America.

Hey Lug,

Just an FYI,

Andy Cuomo is the Governor of New York State, rather than the Mayor Of New York City.

Michael Bloomburg is The Mayor of New York City.

w

their just lookin for the assault rifle the cops in Olean lost last week on the news here.trooper left it on the roof of his suv and drove off after a raid the other mornin.

The mayor of NYC is bill de ballsio

Lol.

My bad, thanks for the correction Walleyed.

cuomo has to go!

I guess that makes my preview of the fake news fake?

https://www.larrysharpe.com

Better than Cuomo, that's for sure.

Sharpe is for a 3 month wait period for a gun permit instead of Cuomo's 6 month wait.

(Finn, Gary will be on Neil Cuvoto on Fox today doing a live interview. Says he's running for senate.)

GDP at 4, under Obama it never hit 3 in 8 years, growing economy, lowest unemployment rate in 40 years, corporations moving back to America, raises for workers in many businesses because of corporate tax cuts. All this in less than 2 years amid constant harassment from the fake news stations.

Here's an example of hearing only half the news from other than FOX. Trump refers to a woman as a dog. Every news station, even FOX mentions it. A so called prominent person refers to Ivanka Trump as a c(I can't even add the rest) and it doesn't even make the fake news stations, only FOX again.

Lol

Fox hasn't got anything to do with it! Try he is the 1st president in current history that's actually doing what he ran on.

I think he is up to 57% popularity now. It's because he has truly put Americans 1st!

Contrary to popular belief and talking head propaganda. American think for themselves and see what is going on!

I guess we need to thank Fox news for keeping it real! Huh Gryke!

You may not see the real numbers on your favorite fale news programming:

Donald Trump's Weekly Job Approval Trend

Donald Trump's Presidential Job Approval Ratings
Approval rating Dates
%
Most recent weekly average 39 Aug 6-12, 2018
Term average to date 39 Jan 20, 2017-present
High point, weekly average 45 Jan 20-29, 2017, and Jun 11-17, 2018
Low point, weekly average 35 four times, last on Dec 11-17, 2017
GALLUP

This morning's preview:

MSNBC: One of the Morning Joe panel talking heads claims Trump "is a weak and ineffectual leader who failed to put together a single deal in Washington." (tax reform comes to mind)

CNN: Running a banner proclaiming "Trump's Unreality Show" and talking about how "delusional" he is concerning the "Russian collusion witch hunt" and the "Red Wave."

FoxNews: Interviewing an expert about toxins and heavy metals found in children's food.

I watched the 5 on Fox the other day they were far from being cheerleaders for Trump the said good and not so good things, so many people just want to hear what they want to believe and that's nothing more then sheep feed!


If you listen the liberal media pushes more ideas then any real facts anymore like a gossip session of teenagers not adults. The Muller Russian probe is a joke and a nothing sandwich they are just looking for the perfect liar to make a case from it. If it was real they would of had something a long time ago they just keep it going for effect.


The DOJ is so corrupt and still Trump gets flack for pulling security clearances from a guy that lied to Congress and spied on US citizens in fact he lied 3 different times.

Ahhhhh



Just let them keep telling their lies. After all, they are the only ones who believe them!

And


I think after the final vote count was released. Trump also won popular vote? Not just electoral.

I could be wrong about that

Take the illegals and dead people out of the vote and he won by a landslide. I have no respect for people that could not even win a rigged election very inept! LOL

Drain the Swamp this November!

MAGA!

TRUMP 2020!!!

I'm still confused

So can only an enlightened conservative know what is or isn't fake news?

Does the same thing go for this swamp everyone wants drained???

Here when they/some folks wanted to build a road threw the marsh. People got all weird about that..I mean really? isn't nothing in there but maybe a muskrat, duck or two and a whole lot of mosquitoes..At least that is what some of the people that wanted the road said???
So fill that crap in so ya can drive across town not get bug bit..You can use what ever material that offends you for fill, maybe monuments, books, clothing, etc,etc. Just make sure you make it a Great Road, Best Road ever seen. So of course people in spandex can bike down it safely. We don't want Dominoes to have to come fill your pot hole..

I need some divine guidance from some where?? any where?? is there anyone left out there pure of heart?? I know I'm deaf from the noise..
If ya look straight at me when ya talk, I can read lips..
And>>> My dogs breath,,still smells like Dog Chow!


Mac

Rinos are the bottom feeders of the swamp that mess with progress not hard to figure who will need to go and why! IMO

Mac,

People from all political affiliations are catching on to the Fake News being portrayed by many of our "News agencies."

"Drain the Swamp" is a metaphor used by our President Donald J. Trump and often chanted by his supports at rallies. This metaphor, "Drain the Swamp" is referring to President Trump's plans for sweeping ethics reform and make our government honest once again." Cleanse Washington of political insiders who are out of touch with ordinary Americans.

When I posted "Drain the Swamp this November" I am referring for people to exercise their right to vote this November and hopefully in partial the support of our President, Donald J. Trump. Sadly the left seems to have resorted to a different strategy... misinformation(Fake News), censorship, harassment, threats and violence.

Hopefully this clears up your confusion.

Good luck to you out on the trapline this season!

This morning's preview:

CNN: Bomb that killed forty children in Yemen supplied by USA.

MSNBC: Mocking Trump and Giuliani via sound bites. Praising 177 "officials" who have added their names to protest of Brennan losing his security clearance.

FoxNews: Antifa disrupts peaceful pro-gun rally in Seattle by yelling "go home Nazis", carrying signs reading "Kill the Nazis and becoming violent against peaceful protesters. Fox says, "No coverage of this on other news outlets."

This morning's preview:

CNN: covering former Trump lawyers Micheal Cohen's plea deal and subsequent allegations that Trump coordinated "Hush Fund" to pay off women.

MSMBC: The fabulously sophisticated and intellectually superior Mika Brzezinski mocking (with a childish sneer on her face) Trump's "Drain the swamp" slogan claiming, "Rot and corruption start at the top with Trump."

FoxNews: Covering Trump's West Virginia rally.

Yeah, I had to turn off the news this morning.

I'm thoroughly disgusted with the news to the point I'm rethinking my participation in a segment for our local news station coming up this Friday.

Same here. My local channel is every bit as liberal as CNN.

I watch the local weather then scan the big three cable news outlets for a few minutes just to keep up on the ridiculousness.

It scares me that there are millions of Americans that believe what they hear on fake news channels.

But, don't you see??? This is why the left accuses FOX of being completely pro-right because they won't jump on the left's hateful bandwagon.

If you can't separate a person giving you facts from an opinion from nowhere out of the blue I'd be worried about you a bit. LOL Most of it is just fluff nothing substantial or meaningful just their own view often skewed with their own bias.

The fact that they are "missing" what others are covering that are important facts and events should be a clue also you would think.

A commentator on MSNBC's Morning Joe show this morning claimed Trump was only popular with his base because he doesn't like the same things his base doesn't like: "Us (the fake news media), illegal immigrants and African Americans."

I had to shake my head at that one.

Trump came to power because he stated a truism,we need to control our borders!
Why shouldn't we?

All the politicians who want open borders, we should do a test run... remove their fences and walls around their properties, remove the locks on their doors and windows. And then whoever shows up they have to provide them with health care, housing, education(through college, tuition free) and supplement their food and clothing as needed. All must be accepted with no questions! During the test we get to encourage all to visit these kindhearted and generous politicians also.

This morning's preview:

MSNBC gleefully discussing the idea that if Democrats win the House in November, impeachment proceedings against President Trump could begin as early as January or February 2019 after congress reconvenes.

CNN talking about some tennis chick that got warned by a referee for taking her top off on the court and how sexist this is because men are allowed to change their shirts on court.

FoxNews reporting that charges have been dropped on the five Islamic terrorists running the murder training camp in New Mexico because of a technicality. New charges brought against two of the five for starving the three-year-old to death.

CNN currently running a banner:

"Former Presidents Honor Senator McCain With Words Aimed At Trump"

I see that trump is now singing the praises for ted cruz-a man he called lyin' ted, said ted has never acomplished anything in his life, and made fun of teds wife.----was all that "fake news" when it came out of his mouth?

Both parties made up of a bunch of hypocrits.
Trump is blowing his chance because of recklesstalk and tweets...... What a shame.

Things change, Trump has accomplished or tried to accomplish everything he said on the campaign trail. The only politician that has done that.

Kinda like Obama did to H. Clinton and then hired her for his SOS?

Your constant whining about the Republicans shows your true colors.

The most consistent example of Fake News is Trump's Tweets.

Jarhead

Clinton and Obama did it so that makes it Ok??? Pretty low bar to set don't you think?
Would a state run media(even worse that fox)be prefferable to what we have now?

CNN this morning:

Poll shows 69% support Mueller investigation, 43% support impeachment.

Must have been a pretty narrow focus group...

Nope, it's called campaigning and refreshing your memory. You wrote like it's the first time you ever heard someone do it....or just wanted to whine like usual about a Republican.

It's fun to point out that there is so little difference in the extremes of both parties. It's very easily seen if one has a mind that is open enough to allow themselves to see things as they are instead of how we would like them to be. Picking a side and sticking with it, no matter what, is a sucker's play. And makes taking the vote of such people effortless.

I sure don't want trump to be impeached. I do hope he does not run next time. A more mature republican would have an easier when. I don't see the dems doing anything to attract votes other than attack trump. Who will they run, a socialist???? As much as so many Americans hate trump, more hate socialism.

It also funny to see those who constantly whined about Obama while he was trying to turn the bush economy around, now whine that others express dislike for trumps childish tweets.

Politics as usual, I suppose.

40% of americans/ democrats hate Trump, what I find funny is the old" If you don't agree with me you don't have an open mind" I base my views on facts not on conjecture and hyperbole.

LOL, yea
I pick the pro gun/outdoor/conservative side and you pick the liberal/anti-gun side.

Politics as usual.

And he did SQUAT to turn the economy aroud. Place regulations on every thing that made us what we are as "turning things around"? Get real! your acting stupid! All that bum ever did was give bail-outs to the renewable energy companies that went belly up as soon as they got the money.

Yep, democrats have an open mind until you don't agree with them.
They're all for free speach until it's not them talking.

Did somebody say that dems hhave opened minds??? Their far lefties are no more open minded than the far to the right right of my republican party.

Are you trying to convince us, or yourself? lol

Ugghhhh .....that pic is waaaaayy too big on my screen, racer man

Seemed fitting, he's been bragging him up ever since he left office.

I guess that's an example of "his republican party". LOL.

I understand ! A wee bit shock to the eyes, is all

Lots of we repubicans wondering if the party of Reagan is gone.

Drugs and alcohol don't assist in creating an understandable post.

Keith

if/of, ever hear of a typo?

Anyway, the media outlets, even the state run media, have people assigned to cover trump's "tweet of the day". One would have to imagine that some do what they can to exploit the foolishness of some of them, while others try to come up with an interpretation that show trump in a good light. For most of the tweets, who would you think has the easier job?

The tweets are in English, don't require or need interpretation. Media should REPORT the news, not make the news.

But they have to tell you what the tweet means, or you might draw your OWN conclusion. Unacceptable!

LOL, he doesn't get what this thread is about because he's too busy doing it.

You can't make this stuff up if ya tried. Well, maybe the fake news could, they have people hired to do so.

I am on the city council here in town...and I'll have lunch at the Senior Center ever periodically, and when I told them folks, in jest, I was gonna make Williams great again, I got some hateful looks. Just about all seniors up here are dems.

Old folks are cranky anyway.

I'm proof of that!

I've noticed that those who control all the fake news outlets like to censor the opposition everytime they mention anything that is political in nature.

Someone told me it's because they can't win in debate with facts, logic, or reason. So they just don't report, report falsely, or straight up delete your posts Facebook articles so you can't reach anyone.

Let it continue. Here we are, 2 months away from the mid terms and no solid or substantive platform from the Dems, just reaction to Trump's tweets or statements. He has gotten into their heads.

Focusing on President Trump's tweets and using them to malign him while ignoring his accomplishments seems petty and vindictive.

Maybe that should be the left's new platform; pettiness and vindictiveness with a large helping of anti-2A thrown in.

The democrats have recruited the very few ex-military personnel, who are democrats and are running them in 30 some percent of the more highly contested congressional districts. In the less contested districts the democrats are running their normal socialists, communists and sexually ambiguous, now main line democrats. The democrats are hoping to trick voters with their ex-military candidates into ignoring what the democrats now are.

Keith

Accomplishments? You mean like his continuing efforts to gut the ACA with no viable alternative in mind. I hate him and his spineless accomplices in Congress for this. The ACA has saved my daughter's life after her diagnosis of a deadly cancer. If not for the plan she had under the ACA she would not be alive today. I cant wait until this lying man-child is gone from the White House.

Jarhead

I interpret gryhkl's response as a neo-isolationist attempt to divide and malign his fellow trappers. Just who is he including or excluding with his use of the pronoun 'we'?! His misspelling of 'Republican' is an embarrassing freudian slip that hides a deep-seated Oedipus complex. And this reveals itself with little doubt in his nostalgia for the bygone era of Reaganomics and deficit spending. What sort of monster thinks like that?!!!

An example of the sort of interpretive nonsense that is today's Fake News.

That's exactly what I was thinking!

Actually

I don't think it's his job to come up with alternative. Not to mention ACA is unconstitutional from get go (he shouldn't have to gut it! Spineless? Guy just pretty much gave up his play boy life style to take on the establishment and save our Constitution! I don't think we have had men give up so much nor take on such impossible odds since our founding!

I'm sorry for your daughter's health issue. But I highly doubt the ACA saved her. But then again, I don't know anything about the INS in your state.

And if I remember you correctly?

You have other ideologies that may get in the way of our freedoms. Not sure on that because I can't remember the specific thread and if you are the one I'm thinking of?

LOL, I don't know what ideologies you are trying to remember but I do believe Trump is the most serious threat to our freedoms at this time in our country.

Jarhead

How?

How? [/quote

Well his affection for despots in Russia, North Korea, South America, and elsewhere in addition to his hatred for the free press expose his tyrannical impulses.

Jarhead

Name them

What policies has he put forth to take our freedom away?

I wanna say your islamic? But maybe you were just so far left our Constitution had no meaning to you.

I dunno

I just know you always say things like you do but never have any real proof.

But then again, that why the "free press" you mention has become enemies of the American people. They cant produce any facts either. Meanwhile the only people being silenced are conservatives and conservative view points by the "free press".

Scaring despots, like Kim, into complying with his wishes is about as far from showing affection for despots as a human being could get.

Keith

Most notably his war with Federal law enforcement and the free press and his efforts to shut down public expression against anyone who disagrees with him.


Jarhead

We were talkin about Trump, Not Trudeau

Who does federal law enforcement work for?

Press hates him and he owes them nothing.

He won an election because America agreed with him. We hired him to do a job. Not take office then agree with everyone else. You do understand that right

President Donald Trump has no war with the free press whatsoever. He does have an issue with members of the press who lie to the American people, who mislead the American people and who deliberately fail to give the complete story of the success of his policies.

Why would any honest human being like a liar, like many of our countries liberal journalists?

Keith

Keith, Trump's obsequious performance in his meeting with Kim did nothing to achieve denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. It doesn't appear that Kim was all that "scared".

Jarhead

Lol

He could literally disband the FBI. I think anyway? I could be off on a few minor details. But I'm pretty sure if he was at war with FBI he could literally tell them all to go home

Trump calls them all out when it is proper to do so. The same as he does other countries leaders..He gets right in their face...

Trumpmania.

I guess I’m missing it! He has given law enforcement more support them they have had in 10 years!! I need a example of shutting down public expression. I sure haven’t seen or heard of it, and I live for politics. I have seen CNN run a story for a week now that all other news agencies including the New York Times finally printed retractions, but not CNN. The anonymous source has even said he got it wrong, but heck no CNN is sticking to it when they know it’s a lie. That’s FAKE NEWS and it is the enemy of the America people.

The crushing financial impact of the punishment President Donald Trump put on North Korea and the threat of regime change he made had no impact in your opinion?

Keith

North Korea has not fired a missile over japan in a while..

Keith, I don't know how anyone could respect a liar either. Sadly, Trump is a serial liar and also has a psychopathic personality.


Jarhead

Learned it from the Clintons.

Man dropped a MOAB! Those tunnels have been used since king David's time. Not no more!

Enough said!

That told all the little Commie tator heads there was a new sheriff in town. Then (I may have events out of order?) He literally puts Iran in place by blowing up key military installations with Russian troops present. Confirming there is a new sheriff in town. Now you get a peep out of some crazy tyrannical moron and trump only needs to tweet and they scury back to their oppressed people utopias.

Go Trump!

Until 2025 and then another just like him.

Keith

Trump...2 term president.

Only if we all show up to vote this mid term in Nov. We get complacent and he won't be.

The left votes out of anger. They have that in spades right now.

We vote out of hope and usually stick our heads back in sand once we have it or if none is to be had. We drop ball in Nov and I fear it will all be over?

This morning's preview:

CNN talking about Brett Kavanaugh's upcoming confirmation hearings and how, if confirmed, he would likely strike down the ACA and abortion rights.

FoxNews talking about Nike tapping Kaepernick for advertisements.

MSNBC talking about November's mid-terms. Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski feels, "Many people from the right will join the left to push back against Trump."

LOL, "push back against Trump". Don't think so.

I would like to see Trump push everybody that isn't self employed to pay their full SSI tax, like we do, instead of making the employer pay half of it. That would put money in the coffers.

Both CNN and MSNBC going on and on about the ANONYMOUS New York Times op-ed about the "resistance" movement inside the White House.

Both outlets assembled panels to speculate and bash. MSNBC even brought John Brennan in to lead the speculating and bashing.

Many described the author as a "high-level White House official." How could they possibly know that if the source is anonymous?

Speculation ran rampant this morning; dysfunctionality in the administration, talk of a 25th amendment to remove an insane President, speculation the author may be VP Mike Pence, talk of military commanders ignoring orders...

This is fake news at it worst and why the liberal press really is the "enemy of the people."

John mccains last efforts of revenge against President Trump.

Ol'dad

Interesting.

FAKE NEWS... CNN is the worse. I have to force myself every once in a while to switch the channel to them just to see what crap they are spewing. I can usually only take a minute or so before I want to hit Mika Brzezinski in the head with a hammer and switch the channel back. They are all ecstatic right now thinking "we got him now". Never fails though that all of their proof of wrong doing by Trump is from anonymous sources. If this was real I'm sure the source would want his name out there so he could be hailed as a hero and savior by all the Fake News networks.

The Left is really bucking for their civil war...and they might just get it.

If Trump Gets Voter ID

The dems wont ever win again

I watch Mark Dice on YouTube to see what the Fake News is up to. His review is accurate and at times entertaining...

Here is a sample, his recent post video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1lCmhhdq8

Watching Mark Dice and then complaining about anybody in the media is pretty funny. He's like a dumber Bill Maher wanna-be who roots for the opposite team.

I wonder of he shares a lawyer with trump and hannity?

True.

Keith

And just where do you think we would be if the witch had won?

She promised justices that would gut 2A. It may be the one time in her life she actually told the truth. Is Kavanaugh perfect? No, but he is a darn site better than anybody she would’ve nominated.

Amen, Shouldn't even be questionable to ALL on this site.

I'm getting the impression that you don't like Mark Dice... maybe samantha bee is more of your liking???

Good luck to you out on the trapline this season!

He hasn't been the same since her show was cancelled.

Don't know who she is. Different side of the same coin, likely?

I'm very glad hillary wasn't elected. That doesn't mean I should overlook the fact that trump takes unneed risks at spoiling the great opportunity we've been given. I hoped he'd have settle into the office and stopped the petty behavior. He should have a thicker skin than he has shown.

Better thin skin than the yellow skin most politicians have.

What exactly hasn't Trump done, what opportunity has he wasted?

The opportunity didn't exist without Trump!

THIS, is what people just don't get, Any other candidate , repub or dem, it would have been business as usuall, any other repub would have caved and gave into the dems and nominated a closet liberal to the SC. Wouldn't ginsburgs death right now create the ultimate liberal S-fit. Do they have anything left in the tank?

Yeah

He is one of us.

What the left (both politicians and main stream media) don't understand is that they are fighting us. Not Trump! Trump merely said America 1st and is sticking to that. As long as he continues that course if action he will continue to be invincible.

President Donald J. Trump has done an incredible amount of good things for the United States of America and its citizens, he is a man of action and a winner! I hope he never settles into the office, to do so would stifle him or even worse... turn him into a politician.

Brian's right. The liberal media and politicians are attacking us too, when they attack President Donald Trump.

This morning's preview:

CNN going on and on about chaos in the White House and Stormy Daniels' press conference...

MSNBC covering Serena Williams' meltdown while losing the U. S. Open. According to Mika Brzezinski Selena has a lot of stress because she's a woman and the ref was sexist and because she's the first African-American women to be a big tennis star...

It was somewhat refreshing to not see any Trump bashing although I'm sure that was coming in the next segment. I think this morning was the first time in months I turned MSNBC on and didn't hear any.

FoxNews covering drone strikes in Yemen that took out Al Qaeda members.

Both CNN and MSNBC continuing to spearhead the campaign to smear the reputation of Judge Kavanaugh. Innuendo from "experts", unsourced, third-hand stories from friends of friends and panelists' opinions.

At least they're not going on and on about Russian collusion for the moment...

This morning's preview:

CNN doing a live shot with a reporter on a bus full of protesters heading to DC to protest Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation. It's all "Me Too" type women on the bus.

I can't believe how stupid these folks are. They are on their way to protest against a man who has done nothing wrong, in fact he has led an exemplary life. They have swallowed the liberal media lies hook, line and sinker and are now willingly participating in the spreading of those lies and propaganda.

And CNN is giving it full coverage.

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski finds President Trump's supposed mocking of Blasey-Ford "flabbergasting" and launches into a diatribe against him. She calls him a "proud predator who grabs women by the genitals." She then attacks Sarah Huckabee Sanders for defending President Trump calling her a "disgrace to women" and "rotten to the core."

I watched the clip libs are all aghast about. President Trump is not mocking Blasey-Ford. He simply lists half-a-dozen or more things she can't remember pointing out the many factual omissions in her statements.

Fake news at it's worst this morning.

Trump should have kept his mouth shut 'till the investigation and voting is over. He is using this to keep the flames of his base fanned.

That said, most Americans seem to have tired of the dems and their self-righteous indignation. They sit in judgement of a man who has actually worked to be one of the tops in his field and try to attack his character by going back into his youthful past and make accussations that cannot be proven.

The dems are digging a hole for themselves in hopes of delaying a nomination 'till after the midterms. By doing so they are losing votes for their candidates by the hour. The blue wave may turn out to better be described as a rise red tide.

Trump knows what to say and when to say it!! "SHOCK AND AWE FACTOR" his timing is impeccable!!! Get used to it-he is not a politician and that is why I voted him in there figuring he would not get absorbed by the establishment!

GROUSEWIT, well said!

People are not protesting because they believe a woman waited 35 years to complain about a high school assault.

They are upset because they see a chance Roe V Wade may be overturned.

I think that is unlikely. If it is overturned, an unlikely possibility, it will be up to the individual states to write and enforce abortion law. I think a lot of states will keep it unrestricted.

Most of those protesters are paid!

From this morning:

Polls:

FoxNews: Polls showing more support amoungst Republicans following Kavanaugh confirmation.

MSNBC: Polls show women turning there backs on the Republican party after Kavanaugh confirmmation.

CNN: Polls show spike in Democratic voter registration after Taylor Swift tweet.

Hillary is clearly going to win. no sense in even bothering to vote

What if Kavanaugh was guilty 36 years ago? Look at Wild Bill prior to his running for president. Numerous affairs prior to and on going, and after he became president. Democrats, the main stream media, Hollywood idiots, etc, said it doesn't affect his ability to run the country. But, with Kavanaugh it's wrong, disqualifies him to be a judge. Isn't being president as important as being a judge? What a double standard!

With regard to Clinton, I don't remember people protesting, violently harassing people from that party in restaurants, making physical threats, throwing stuff at democrats, blocking roads, etc. Makes it pretty plain to see which side of the fence the animals live on.

Got this sent to me this morning. Don't know if it's true or not. Anybody verify it?

Dr. Ford is being treated by a psychiatrist for "Delusional Disorders". But, nobody on the judiciary committee bothered to ask about it.

(Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a psychosis in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, unshakable beliefs in something untrue or not based on reality.)

I was watching a liberal talking head on CNN last evening spewing her poison; going on about how President Trump has created a culture where "journalists" are "the enemy of the people" and evil dictators are friends to be cozy with and great guys with lots of potential.

I wonder how they will spin his most recent comments about "severe punishment" if Saudi Arabia is found to be behind the suspected death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

This Veteran's Day morning FoxNews was doing a segment on "Modern Warriors" and paying tribute to American Veterans.

Even MSNBC did a short piece about Black Rifle Coffee Company, a veteran-owned company that supports vets and conservative American values.

Meanwhile over on CNN they continue to promote racism and division in the Country by celebrating the fact that seventeen "black women" were voted into judge positions in a single County/district in Texas.

The president has shown that is cannot be asked legit questions without taking offense and responding like a spoiled child. He is a petty man who attacks anyone who dares question question him.
The man certainly knows the mentallity of the most base of his base. And he loves to be cheered by his followers, which is the reason he holds so many pep rallies where they can gather to worship him.
There have been other leaders in history who behaved much like trumps does.

What's that have to do with fake news, or anything said here?

Ohh, i forgot, your a butthurt lib troll trying to get this thread deleted.

When i watched the news this morning Lugnut, cnn was going on about the election and defending the way the dems are screwing with results.

Fox had some vets on, the only station woth watching this morning.

I didn't go to MN whatever it is. I watched the vets.

Well I felt like cheering when he put that piece of crap Acosta in his place. If, in your opinion, that makes me a worshiper, I'm okay with that.

Your veiled reference to Trump's likeness to Hitler is as old, tired and ridiculous as the rest of your liberal diatribe.

I like to keep tabs on the big three (FoxNews, CNN and MSNBC) Hippie. I watch a few minutes most days. I haven't watched network news in years.

You should try thinking for yourself for a change grackle. Form your own opinions and quit repeating the idiotic liberal talking points you are being spoon fed from whatever sources you are listening to.

I haven't either, I normally end up watching fox. I don't care for Hannity or Carlson, but like to watch the girls that come on after them.

Cumo, Lemon and Anderson give me the dribbling sharts.

"fake news" is one of the trumpster's favorite responses anytime something reflects negatively on him. He even does it when there is video clearly proving he lies.
And lug, the three stations you mention are definitely the most fake of the sources of fake news.

I can't stand Hannity either. The guy just prattles on and on endlessly with all kinds of sensationalist BS. My wife like him though so I make myself scarce during that hour.

Anderson Cooper is an abomination. The fact that he is revered by the left says all anybody needs to know about liberals.

So you admit the existence of "fake news"?

Trump needs to make a Ministry of Truth, to further make the novel 1984 a reality.

That's why we should all vote for librarians, like you did.

"fake news" is one of the trumpster's favorite responses anytime something reflects negatively on him. He even does it when there is video clearly proving he lies.
And lug, the three stations you mention are definitely the most fake of the sources of fake news.[/quote]

So you admit the existence of "fake news"?
[/quote]

Sure. A good example is trump telling the press he doesn't know the man he made attorney general last week, when he clamed he knew the same guy very well when talking about him on Oct 11.

If anyone doesn't think trump wants him because of his view of the ongoing investigation, it's clear how some can believe trumps fake news and call what really happens fake.

Watched CBS Sunday morning and out of the blue statistics on American gun ownership not related to any story of the day, so they say they don't try to influence the people but why the "random" statistics if not to influence their viewers. Yes we own a lot of guns but they leave out the fraction of the numbers they listed that are used for evil and rarely show a pro gun use without a slant to the story.


"He had 200 rounds of ammo" LOL

Suck-iy-up Buttercup, ya act like this is the first time a President lied to ya.

Look back at the last 2 dems, lol.

Learn how to use the quote feature grackle. Seesh

A better example would be 90% of what is editorialized and presented as factual news by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, The New York Times and many other examples.

Should have a page set aside for Pennsylvania Dum Dums to have verbal slap fights.

Cantcha figger out what the post say's there, lugnut?
It points out the nerve of somebody who has been caught lying again and again and then accusing others of "fake news".

Now, it is true that the "news" on the stations that you mention(msnbc, cnn, fox) may be poor sources when one wants to be informed. Those that lean hard left ignore the good that has come for the trump presidency and look for anything they care that is negative. Fox ignores all the lying and looks for ways to blame every bad thing on the dems or the media, holding trump accountable for nothing.

trump crying fake news is a lot like fox pointing at others and claiming biased media.

What did your superior sources say when fast and furious, Bengazi, spys on fox news reporters and the IRS scandel went down.
Did they hound Obama 24/7 about being a lier? You fall for the fake news more than anyone here, or
Your a troll,

They did a better job than any of those mentioned did. Fake news is not as common as biased news reporting that spins everything they acatually do report. If a story cannot be made to, the 3 mentioned simply don't report it.

Funny, i didn't see you bashing Obama day and night about being a lier...Hmmmmmm lol

Lets put it this way..............I don't know who you think your fooling, but it ain't anyone i ever talked to.

You have the last word, because you ain;t worth my time.

You librarians seem to share an intellectual superiority complex with liberals.

So, since Obama lied we should just accept that all of trumps behaviors are okay.

CNN this morning:

Some congresswoman from Minnesota Who is on the arms committee talking about how climate change is going to adversely affect our military preparedness. After all, she said, “our navel bases are going to be under more and more water.”

I am not making this up, that is exactly what she said. I can’t take that high level of stupidity so I turned off the television and have nothing further to report.

*sigh* I wish it were that easy to turn off the insanity in this states " leadership "

Osky

Sorry,ha,thought this was a Nafa thread.

Nice deflection. What I said has nothing to do about either presidents behaviour, it was pointing out YOUR behaviour.

But it's an excellent question for you to answer since it didn't bother you when Obama did it, but now you don't miss a chance to blame Trump for it. Kinda like the media, overlook everything bummer did but now it's a travesty ! Lol

When are you ever going to give me that list of conservatives on NBC, CBS, CNN, and all the other liberal stations you hide behind? I have named newscasters on FOX that are liberals. Still waiting...….

They gonna make some Catholic kid rich!

CNN this morning: “The white supremacist responsible for the mass shooting in New Zealand published a manifesto of hate speech that can be directly linked to Trump’s rhetoric.”

So there you have it folks, the mass murder in New Zealand was Trump’s fault.

Meanwhile on MSNBC: They are calling the fact that the New York State attorney has charged Michael Cohen with many of the same crimes he was just sentenced for in federal court, “Trump’s Nightmare.” They are referring to the fact that these charges will be “pardon proof.”

Never mind the fact that most lawyers and legal correspondents are saying none of these charges will stick because double jeopordy applies.