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Got some silver vine today!

Posted By: Law Dog

Got some silver vine today! - 08/20/18 11:43 PM

Got some silver vine off of Amazon the pic in the ad looked like a shoe polish can size had to laugh when it got here! LOL read the fine print always.


Posted By: andy weiser

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:46 PM

Seeing how Tracy Truman turned me on to it I bought mine from him.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:49 PM

Had no clue where to look to begin with never heard of the stuff before. LOL
Posted By: Trapper Dahlgren

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:51 PM

what is it ?
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:52 PM

catnip?
Posted By: silkyplainscoyot

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:53 PM

Here's where you get the real stuff, LD.

https://wyldwingsproductions.com/collections/all
Posted By: RightWayFur

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: west river rogue
catnip?
not catnip....lazarus had a thread on here about it....great thread and im sure great stuff
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/20/18 11:57 PM

If you go on the website Silky referenced, you can read all about it and see how cats respond to it.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 12:09 AM

Thanks for the info!
Posted By: AJE

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 12:38 AM

Thanks for posting. Laz's thread was great. It's been on my shopping list to look into silver vine.
Posted By: Michael Morris

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 01:24 AM

Lazarus aka tracy Truman has the real deal, straight ground gall fruit, where all the attraction comes from. It's the best stuff going, he's even got the videos to back it up.
Posted By: scheide

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 01:31 AM

MTP handles Tracy's products also.
Posted By: ambush32

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 01:49 AM

https://wyldwingsproductions.com/products/ground-silver-vine-powder-1-oz

Tracyís
Posted By: AJE

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 02:29 AM

Originally Posted By: scheide
MTP handles Tracy's products also.
Hey, thanks for the heads up. I'm going to look them up at next months Wis convention.
http://www.minntrapprod.com/mobile/Silver-Vine-Powder/productinfo/LI-SILVER/
Posted By: Tactical.20

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:08 AM

And you said you didn't do that stuff!!
Lol, I'm kidding of course, hope you do good on cats with it
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 03:32 PM

Just a word to the wise . . . even if you don't buy from me, I would highly encourage you to go to my website and under the "FAQ" button, there is a document on frequently asked questions about silver vine and directions for use. It will help you avoid some of the common mistakes in usage.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 03:49 PM

Ordered a pound to grind my self this will give me enough to work with and see what is the easiest way to work with it!

Thanks Again
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:12 PM

Shipping it out today! Thanks for your order.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:24 PM

You grind your own I was happy to find the pods!
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:27 PM

Yes, I grind my own. Its a labor of love.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Lazarus
Yes, I grind my own. Its a labor of love.



Might be a good selling point I'd trust you way more then the Chinese doing the grinding! smile
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:34 PM

That's how I started . . . I didn't trust anyone because once the material is ground up, who knows what's in it? But now that I've ground more than I care to discuss, and I've seen how/why it works, I know what the good stuff is, and what isn't. Here's a hint, if it has leaves and limbs and twigs in it, you're wasting your time.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 04:40 PM

Good info Thanks that's why the pods seemed like the best route not knowing if you did the grinding so both routes seem safe then.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 05:09 PM

Looked close at the Cloud 9 stuff that I bought on Amazon and it has some lighter bigger stuff mixed in with the darker powder am guess that might be stems/leaves maybe?
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 05:24 PM

Yup, no doubt. Or bearing fruit.

Go read Dr. Bol's study. He tested the various parts of the SV plant to determine where those important chemicals were concentrated. Answer: The gall fruit. Not the leaves or twigs or bearing fruit, but the galls. They are hard as a rock and they look like gravel when you grind them course. But the fine ground powder is dark brown, kind of like nutmeg and it has a bitter kind of a smell that you remember once you've smelled it.
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 05:26 PM

Read the reviews on a lot of those products. You'll see every once in a while one will pop up saying their cat didn't respond to the silver vine, but when the seller sent a replacement product, ole Fiffy lit up like a Christmas tree. That's because something probably got mixed in with their product, and when they replaced it with the real gall fruit, it provided the chemical reaction that triggers the response we are all looking for.
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 06:10 PM

I used an electric coffee grinder, and it did a great job.
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 06:19 PM

Ah, a little Silver Vine Cappuccino! You might have an "alternate market" there Boss. :-)
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 06:32 PM

That little coffee grinder did well on a pound, but I don't think I'd care to do a hundred pounds with it. I don't care for those Italian sounding coffees. I prefer a good Columbian dark roasted. I may try grinding coffee beans after the silver vine to see if the coffee will make me want to rub against my cup.
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 06:46 PM

Well, if you start slobbering, meowing and rolling on the floor, let me know and we'll give Starbucks a run for their money.
Posted By: crowheart

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/21/18 09:57 PM

I am going to see if Lions like it, and try it on some bears.
Posted By: novatrapper01

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/23/18 03:28 PM

I tried to order some from amazon. They just called me and told me itís prohibited in Canada....... guess I wonít be trying it on the northern kitties.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/23/18 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Lazarus
Well, if you start slobbering, meowing and rolling on the floor, let me know and we'll give Starbucks a run for their money.


You might be on to something there! laugh
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/23/18 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: novatrapper01
I tried to order some from amazon. They just called me and told me itís prohibited in Canada....... guess I wonít be trying it on the northern kitties.


Amazon stuff looks to be junk and a 1X use amount, get the real stuff from a place you trust!
Posted By: Tactical.20

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/23/18 08:30 PM

Paul, I hope you won't need a litter box!
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 04:26 PM

Got my silver vine over the weekend a pound is a good amount about fills a quart freezer bag before grinding looks like I will have plenty for some time to mess with! Thanks Tracy


Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 05:11 PM

Glad it got there. Let me know how the grinding goes. That stuff is HARD as a rock.
Posted By: odiferous

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 05:57 PM

I've been trying to educate myself on it and learned not to use the usual mediums I would to tincture other things and that I couldn't use it in my cat lure with the glycerine binder and antifreeze. From what I've learned, I'm better off using it mixed with a small amount of olive oil, or petroleum jelly. I know a lot of people do, but I've never really cared for pet jelly, so I thought olive oil would be the way to go. Researching olive oils led me to the fact that they can freeze at around 35*, or just a little lower. In 90% of my trapping, the nighttime temps are from a little, to way below that, so I guess I'm back to pet jelly. I thought about using olive oil as a replacement for the glycerine in my cat gland lure at one point, but obviously that's out, now. Unless somebody has another idea that they'd be willing to share, I guess I'm going to be experimenting with it as a rub lure in pet jelly and sprinkling a little powder at other sets. Law dog had mentioned using it in bags at one point and I like that idea too, thanks again LD. I'm looking forward to experimenting with some castor and aged rat glands in combination with SV as a rub lure and I have some other things in mind to try too, but my original ideas are pretty much off the table, at least for the time being.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 06:06 PM

My old grinder was on it's last leg "a 80s food processor" tried the second grind but the head was so hot it cooked some of the dust around the blade into "bakelite" locked it up on the second go a round. LOL

No biggie I just need to get another transfer arm part a dime a dozen on Ebay or Amazon has them maybe as I don't do Ebay any more. Don't see it eating grinders mine was junk and I knew it was going to pop it was repined once already guessing that shear pin forgot to shear. Oh well


Seen 3 of the wife's cats hanging around the trap shed so I tossed the empty ice cream bucket in their direction and they started to rub their faces on the bucket with just a little dust in it, very encouraging!
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 06:18 PM

im actually wondering if its the same stuff that grows in the mountains of the philippines that the natives grind and sell for housecats,,,we use on their rub post
Posted By: Lazarus

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 06:19 PM

Odiferous: You might try some Forever from O'Gorman. Its like a super thin petroleum gel. In warm weather its like mineral oil; in cold weather it gels up, but nothing like Petroleum gel. If you cut it with olive oil, you could probably get nearly identical to glycerin as far as freeze proof and consistency. Try some pure ground castor (no glycol or glycerin added to it), some SV and just enough olive oil to make a thick paste. Freezing temps won't hurt it and it works great.

Law Dog: Pay close attention to those cats!!!! You have the luxury of having three willing (OK, maybe "available" is a better word) test subjects right at your door. Their reaction will be very much what you see from spotted cats. Just make sure you give them an hour or more between testing because they will need to clear their systems so you get a valid appraisal of whatever new concoction you put in front of them.
Posted By: Northmocats

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 07:37 PM

Let us know how it goes Lawdog. Interesting topic.. I've considered getting some and mixing with Olive oil ^ good info thanks. kinda make a smear paste of it.
I have a Half feral cat that hangs in my Backyard at times .. I tested some rub lure on him the other day. He didnt spend much time investigating, but did go right to it.
Posted By: odiferous

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Lazarus
Odiferous: You might try some Forever from O'Gorman. Its like a super thin petroleum gel. In warm weather its like mineral oil; in cold weather it gels up, but nothing like Petroleum gel. If you cut it with olive oil, you could probably get nearly identical to glycerin as far as freeze proof and consistency. Try some pure ground castor (no glycol or glycerin added to it), some SV and just enough olive oil to make a thick paste. Freezing temps won't hurt it and it works great.

Law Dog: Pay close attention to those cats!!!! You have the luxury of having three willing (OK, maybe "available" is a better word) test subjects right at your door. Their reaction will be very much what you see from spotted cats. Just make sure you give them an hour or more between testing because they will need to clear their systems so you get a valid appraisal of whatever new concoction you put in front of them.


Lazarus, I really appreciate you sharing that info with me, a lot of people wouldn't. I'll definitely give it a try and thanks again.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Northmocats
Let us know how it goes Lawdog. Interesting topic.. I've considered getting some and mixing with Olive oil ^ good info thanks. kinda make a smear paste of it.
I have a Half feral cat that hangs in my Backyard at times .. I tested some rub lure on him the other day. He didnt spend much time investigating, but did go right to it.


Them cats went from sniffing the pail to rubbing their cheeks all in 1 swift move they did not do it long but they did it! The only thing in the pail was residue after I poured the grindings into a 1/2 gallon ball jar a tapped on it a bit so it did not have much in it but dust.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/27/18 09:16 PM

Well the grinder shaft/arm was toast but the blender attachment will work without that arm it makes a little dust but gets most of it to a fine powder I ran the batch through 2X in the blender and 1X through the grinder to start. I put that "arm" out on a old stock tank I use for the chicken chicks did not think much about it.

I was working on some sweet skunk and seen a cat next to it I get a jar and head back and it's rubbing on the arm so I mix my skunk pods and put the jar back behind the shed and another one is rubbing a Siamese a totally different cat.

Camera was in the house so I walked over and put that arm I used to grind the gall with and set it down on the porch, boom 2 other cats walk up and rub on the arm. It had dust on it and not much of that even. LOL

Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Got some silner vine today! - 08/28/18 04:50 PM

Showered last night, podded a skunk handled some sweet skunk, washed my hands a dozen times and still can detect the silver vine odor on my hands still so it's long lasting, ground up about 80% of the pound left the rest as whole galls for later to grind.
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