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Question for the snare and CR cablemen

Posted By: Jonesie

Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 11:49 AM

What total length do you personally like to use? What cable diameter? What type of strand 1x19, 7x7 or 7x19 other? On average how many do you use a season? What is your target? What is your preferred loop size? Do you use loaded, over load or no load. This is for survey information only so just please be general. Thank you.
Posted By: SNIPERBBB

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 12:05 PM

40" for all but coyote snares.
1x19 all snares, except mink
Overloaded snares on all but nonfence coyote, then just normal load
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 12:23 PM

This should be intersting
Posted By: Leary Sink

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 01:09 PM

5/64 1X19 40” total length w/ inline swivel for beaver
6’ 3/32 extentions with long line clip on one end
Posted By: Tactical.20

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 01:38 PM

[quote=Leary Sink]5/64 1X19 40” total length w/ inline swivel
About what I use
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 01:40 PM

I use Crs.

The loop end of my Cr Is built using 1x19x3/32s cable. Then I have a inline barrel swivel. The rest of the Cr is built from 7x7x3/32s.
The 1X19 Is chew resistant and holds A nice loop when It's loaded. And It's a lot faster closing then 7x7.

When I re order I just buy the loop end and reuse the barrel swivel and the 7x7 end.

Length wise we are limited to 7'. I think mine are a bout 6'+ we need 40 some inches to form a 12" loop and we can place our loop 12" off the ground so we need another 12" plus you need to be able to get back to the ground to stake It. So anything under 6' Isn't going to cut It.

TH e7X7 unravels so easy the coyote Is just chewing On individual strands of cable. I had way to many coyotes that chewed out with the 7x7.

Hey Newt did I do Ok.

I wish we could use real snares.
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 02:12 PM

Yes Beav. You did good.
I think you got "IT"
Posted By: Tom cat

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Newt
This should be intersting


X2
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 02:17 PM

Thanks Newt.
Posted By: Nd native

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 02:29 PM

10'-11' of 1x19 5/64" cable. I use Senneker kill springs with triggers and want them to hit the end of a good long lunge to set the lock. Not much for entanglement where I snare though either. Someday I'll make extensions and a shorter main snare when I find time to do it. Otherwise right now it's easy for me to be lazy and make them all one piece.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 02:54 PM

Depends on the target.For cats and fox,the snare is 1/16- 1x19 or 7x7 just big enough to make a 7 inch loop 6 inches off the ground with a cam or adams lock the proper size hole for the cable(very important).When I make snares from 1x19 I load them.These are always set to be lethal,and are tied off with doubled 14g wire which is also the support.

For wolf I use an 6 foot snare,3/32 12 to 16 inches off the ground. It is cabled directly to a solid anchor high.These are also lethal set.I use the amberg wedge lock with a heavy kill spring.I use a section of gas line as a whammy in order to support the loop at the lock and still be able to adjust the loop for the coverage required at the snare site.After a catch the good end of the snare is re-purposed as an extension.

I have hundreds of snares out in the bush,at jackpots,not all are activated the same season,so all my snares are dyed and waxed to prevent degradation from the elements.I never replace any snares during the season,just pick up fur.I replace any snares at the beginning of the season when I activate the jackpot.Tie wires on fox and lynx snares are re inforced at this time.


I only snare beaver under ice,beaver snares are made of 1/16 7x7 with a cam or adams lock.They are only long enough to make a 10 inch loop,And are tied to the pole in pairs with doubled 14 ga wire.



Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 03:01 PM

WE are getting off subject. The question was concerning CRs not lethal snares.
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 03:03 PM

Opps maybe I was wrong I see It also mentions "snares"

I'm bad
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 04:47 PM

OH Beav ,What are we going to do with you ?
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 08:33 PM

Newt I'm old well that's my excuse. LOL
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 08:39 PM

48-60" snares 7x7 3/32" cable for beaver, coon, fox, and coyotes. I use a 7-8" loop on everything but Coyotes I go 11" - loaded. Anywhere from 50-400+ snares a year, depending on how I trap that year.
Posted By: bad karma

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 08:44 PM

48" x 1/16th x 1 x 19 stainless with loop ends and a stainless slim lock or Newt's lock for foxes.
Same specs for beaver but I sometimes move up to 5/64ths.


All fox snares are overloaded.


Always use minimum of 6ft x 1/8th extension with swivels.
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 08:45 PM

Ya but your hanging them on kill poles. Those would be to short If you had to stake them In place.
Posted By: 10bands

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 09:23 PM

5/64 1x19 12-14’ long loaded lethal snare for coyotes
Posted By: Hutchy

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 09:30 PM

People who dont use whammies or tubing, how do you support your snare?

And I have several hundred, target our wolf/coyote things, use a ten foot length of cable, 3/32 7x7 dyed and waxed
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 09:33 PM

5/64" x 40" 1x19 Stainless Steel,Copper deer stop,6/0 barrel swivel,78" 3/32" 7x7 Stainless steel,Copper Ferrules,
Posted By: AirportTrapper

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Hutchy
People who dont use whammies or tubing, how do you support your snare?



Electrical tape
Posted By: 9wire

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 10:20 PM

4’ of 3/32 1x19 for the loop and 2’of 1/8” 7x7 for the extension, big inline barrel swivel between the two... I target live market coyotes and use between 100-300 per season... I use loaded snares and my loop size varies depending on the situation but can be as large as 14”...
Posted By: Boco

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/16/18 11:37 PM

Hutchy,some use a w bent into the support wire.
I do it this way.


Posted By: Jonesie

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 12:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Leary Sink
5/64 1X19 40” total length w/ inline swivel for beaver
6’ 3/32 extentions with long line clip on one end


Leary give me a call I lost your phone # when my phone broke
Posted By: Jonesie

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 12:47 AM

Inverted S support wire
Posted By: Jonesie

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 12:47 AM

Thank you to all that have answered so far.
Posted By: Hutchy

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Boco
Hutchy,some use a w bent into the support wire.
I do it this way.




A guy I used to trap with used to do that. He seemed to have a ton of chew outs for what he caught. I have had one since switching to ten foot snares
Posted By: Castormound

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Newt
This should be intersting
Yep
Posted By: Leary Sink

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 02:19 AM

Will do Ron!
Posted By: Boco

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 02:21 AM

Hutchy,a dead animal cant chew out,lol.You have to set your snares to be lethal.If you set snares in the open without a kill pole you are just setting a cable restraint.I have re used cat snares on many occasions after a catch,they go lights out real quick on a kill pole.If you are setting snares to be lethal and you have frayed wire from chewing,a catch circle or waterhead,that is telling you that you are doing something wrong,and need to tweak your methods or seek a better location to make your sets.
Posted By: Leary Sink

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 02:23 AM

Newt
Will you adopt me so I can use all copper ferrels on my snares and extentions?
Even though Im surrounded by salt water like you, I just cant afford them bad boys all the time.😁
Posted By: Boone Liane

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 02:56 AM

Dispatch snares.

1/16 for cats, 5/64 for coyotes. All 7x7. All made 6’ long. All go on a 7-8’ 3/32 extension, sometimes use multiple extensions to get to a natural anchor.

The only loading I do is loading em in the truck.

The number used a year varies. I’ve got 1000 ready for this season.

Loop size to fill the trail (smaller the better), 10-12” high for coyotes, 8-10” for cats.
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 10:41 AM

[quote=Leary Sink]Newt
Will you adopt me so I can use all copper ferrels on my snares and extentions?
Even though Im surrounded by salt water like you, I just cant afford them bad boys all the time.😁[/quote

It only hurts once. Then you get peice of mind. How much is that worth.
Once you go all Stainless Steel. You'll never go back.
Posted By: SkyeGoode

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 02:26 PM

I prefer 60", 1x19 with an extra mid-line swivel, I run about 100 during our 2.5 month season on average, I set my loop at 9 inches wide, 9 inches off the ground, as I target coyotes only but will hip catch nearly any fox that might come through, all pre-loaded.



Posted By: John Deere Steve

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/17/18 03:22 PM

60" cable restraints. Reverse bend washer cuz it's the only option here. Twist on supports. No surgical tube for me for support! Painted cables. Been using 7x7 3/32 cable but picked up '1000 of 1/19 to try this year.
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/18/18 09:50 AM

TTT
Posted By: grumley701

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/18/18 01:05 PM

Length: 40". Built for kill poles, I run extensions on snares not attached to kill poles. Cable size: 5/64th 1X19 loaded. How many: 100 or so for coyotes. Loop size: 12" because it's state law. Steel whammies because of the solid lock up I get off of the kill poles and I don't like messing with plastic/rubber whammies in sub zero temps. No kill springs, I use entanglement to apply constant pressure on the lock.

Locks: Slim, bullet & teethed death blows.
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/18/18 01:33 PM

I put that rubber In the freezer for a week and It never got hard. It's used as gas line so if It got hard It wouldn't be a good choice for that application.
Posted By: Claythomas

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/18/18 01:59 PM

I PA we are limited to CR's and also have entanglement to take into account. Given the entanglement,there are those times when using a longer cable will prevent you from setting some places that would work with a 48 inch type. I am mostly working areas with narrow trails through high grass so staking and supporting can be VERY close the trail rendering longer cable unnecessary.
Posted By: Newt

Re: Question for the snare and CR cablemen - 10/19/18 08:29 PM

TTT
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