Japan needs to make more babies

Here is an interesting story about the population decline in Japan. They need to start making more babies, or they'll be in a world of hurt soon. The USA is headed down the same path, too. Our fertility rate is currently 1.80 births per woman, 2.11 is considered replacement rate. Gotta start making more babies or we'll put ourselves out of existence.

I saw a TV show on that in Japan...the Youth have no interest it seems...

Americans won't go out of existence, with a 1.80 birth rato, for a very long time, even if we stopped all immigration. There is well over 300 million Americans. Even with a 15.5% reduction in population, per generation, there would still be lots of Americans many generations from now.

Keith

There would be but the economy would collapse.

Maybe Japan needs less radiation in their water.

Maybe the world is running out of souls to be reincarnated for first world people?

Keith

I heard once that 25% of Japanese people aged 30 are still virgins. Here in America, it might not seem like a big deal, but those kids that aren't being born are the ones that were supposed to be working to pay your social security check, working and adding to the economy, etc. Our fertility rate here in America is something like 1.6 if we don't count the immigrants. So unless we do our part to make some babies, we'll put ourselves out of existence. It's a compounding effect, too, women only have so many years that they can have a baby, and the older a society gets, the less women there are to have babies. 30% of the Japanese are are over the age of 60, they're quickly getting to the point where they wont be able to replace themselves if they wanted to.

Me, I'm doing my part. We had 5 babies in 6 years.

Can we build a road from Mexico to Japan?

Those Japenes girls need to read the part in the bible about Adam being the father of all and how things started to happen when the leaves started to fall.

I think the world will be a better place if we concentrate on raising smaller numbers of better quality people rather than people milling out low quality human beings enmasse.

Keith

That may be so but how would a modern economy function without population expansion?

Who's gonna pay for your social security check if there aren't enough workers paying social security tax? Social security is a Ponzi scheme, you need lots of people coming in so you can take their money and give it to other people. If there aren't enough people to steal er I mean take money from, you wont have enough money to give to the recipients (people on social security).

An economy could still do well if it produced and sold better quality, more expensive products rather than lots of poor quality junk and food. Poor people are mostly used to redistribute wealth. I don't think a good economy really needs poor people to function well.

Keith

Social Security is going to fail sooner or later. I don't think the program should have ever been started and it definitely should not have been allowed to become the massive mess it is today.

I have been sell employed most of my life and won't receive almost any Social Security benefits. I will have to work until I die or pay others to work for me.

Keith

I agree that social security never should have been started. But I've had a lot of money stolen er I mean taxed from me over the years and somebody better be there to pay me back when I retire. Good job being self employed, by the way, that's better than workin for the man. Regardless of social security though, that doesn't change the fact that a society that doesn't have babies at or above the replacement rate of 2.11 BPW will eventually go out of existence, though it may take a while. Population will continue to go down until it reaches zero unless more babies are made.

Tell them we can ship them some illegal immigrants

Under a fiat currency economy the inflation would be astronomical in your scenario.

In a "good" economy there will always be poor people, that is how free market capitalism works.

End the Welfare State!

Its been awhile since a read up on Virgils Georigics, seems he compares society and communistic values to that of bees working, where everyone has a job to do and does it, it also talks about bees going off on a war path and things aren't that great. When everyone has something in common or goal and a happy median such as a free market and those willing to work harder to have more is socially accepted. But then you have those who look at you with your hard earned things and think you sure are lucky. Was it Jefferson that said Yes and the harder I work the luckier I get?
Some people dont have knowlege nor oppurtunity to rise but would rather have what you have. People used to get married at 13 and have a dozen kids because disease would wipe them out and farm work required lots of labor. Kids now have a new car in the drive way when they get 16. You can chase these rabbits all day long but at the end when reality sets in and the basics of a free market start operating then those who don't work don't eat! The best part about Virgil I like is the tempus fugit, unless I'm having fun of coarse and then it works even better.

There are still some of the Greatest Gen, a lot of the Silent Gen and a ton of baby boomers. Isn't there some relief of sorts to SS as they pass on?

First off, the Greatest Generation was, and always will be, the Founding Fathers.

So sick of the WWII generation being called "The Greatest Generation".

Fact is the WWII generation allowed the greatest heist in human history, aka the Great Depression, without a fuss, much less an actual fight. Putting all of us in deep the debt even before birth. Which is slavery, by the way. Sure, they fought in WWI... but then allowed Statism (aka Fascism, Socialism, Islam and Communism) to take over the entire world. They squandered the greatest economic leg up, the post WWII recovery, which was not only staggeringly moronic, it was absolutely criminal. They coddled their kids to the point that most are adult age ignorant infants.

All of which made WWII a complete waste of money, time and human life on every level.
So sad.

There will be some relief to social security when those people are gone, but not much. This is a super long but really good article from the Atlantic on young kids doing the deed less often. It's PG rated, so dont worry. It's surprising, given how oversexualized our culture is, but the data is all there. The gist is basically that millenials are incapable of having a real adult relationship. It's only going to get worse as things go on.

What do the numbers look like?

" Japan needs a o make more babies "

Look fellas, I'd like to help em out but I have a Western swing for yotes coming up and maybe a mountain lion hunt after that and THEN we're into the summer guiding season. Don't know that I could fit it in long way to go!

Now if they wanted to send three maybe four thousand of those pretty gals over this way we could see if we can get a jump on it.

Just trying to help.

Osky

Catch-22 This is directly from the government's social security website. Talks about declining fertility rates, aging population, people living longer, the need to reduce benefits and raise retirement age, etc. It's long.

Its propaganda started by the globalist. Its what they said right before they started flooding Europe with immigrants.( to save their birth rate) yea right. We don't need untold millions of Americans. Our country did just fine for 200 years with a normal population.
Our people have been around for a long time. I dont think this is the end. Its natures population control, And it will swing back the other way yet too.

Pay attention yukonjeff. Our population during our first 200 years as a nation was always growing. That's the whole point-it's not that the population needs to be a certain size, it's that population needs to keep going up. And yes, population will crash eventually, but it never goes well. Think of population crashes in the past...Bubonic plague, Spanish flu, etc. Always horrible times. But the decades after are excellent, in part because of the population growth that comes after such events.

This is really easy to understand. Think of a small town with 100 people. How will that town stay alive? People either have to move to the town (immigration) or babies need to be born at or above replacement rate. It's really not hard to figure out. It's why a lot of small towns are dying. The population is old, nobody moves to the town, no babies are being born. It happens on a national level too, it's just harder to see.

It’s not that their not having sex Japan is one of the most sex obsessed places you can imagine it’s that a lot of women are choosing not to have kids due to the social expectations that go along with it

I'll be darned if I'll read through all the horse pucky to find out, but...

I'll if they'll pay their own way there and back I'm glad to help out any Japanese gals who need my assistance.

The best time to come is when Miz is at her sisters, email me for details.

Japonese women are hot. Guess ill get me a passport and a plane ticket. Dont want folks to think i wont help out in a crisis

Shhhhhhh hang in there with me here Danny, as you see I’m trying the art of the deal and getting THEM to pay their own cab fare here and then home. Lessons for the ladies await,

Osky

Send in the “Mormons”

I got me a Japanese woman already. She says I don't get to have any more.

Jim

Send Magic Johnson over there.I heard he fathered 10,000 kids or something like that.Magic Johnson,lol.

I think there has to be a better way to fuel an economy without an ever expanding population . That cant be the answer. Perhaps a decline is in order...without bringing in replacement people that don't have the same values as traditional Americans.

In opposition to America, Japan is trying to deal with the problem by relaxing its immigration laws, allowing many new immigrants from Asia and SE Asia.

Jim

Maybe Japan will take the muslims, they have a high fertility rate.

They are indeed accepting Muslims, but probably won't coddle them or allow Sharia law nonsense.

Jim

There is a better way. It's called the free market.

They're not having sex though. 40 % of Japanese millineals have never had sex, 70% percent of their men are not in a relationship, 60% of their women are not in a relationship.

If you work for a living, having kids is a burden. If you vote for a living, having kids is lucrative.

Mike

Sounds like racial profiling to me, why don't they let anybody in from where ever?

They pretty much do, so long as the immigrant is ready to work. There is a shortage of young Japanese willing to do the menial, service jobs (waitressing, laborer).

Lots of South Americans there too.

Jim

Are those illegal or legal immigrants?

I'm going to come off as pretty selfish here, but I could really care less what happens to the human race in 200 years. I've pretty much lived the life of "The American Dream" and I found it to be a lot less enjoyable than they made it sound growing up. I pretty much pay enough yearly in taxes to fund a minimum wage worker to watch television all day long, my health insurance for my family is enough for a second mortgage, and speaking of mortgage I bought a house at 22 because that's what you do well I got a letter in the mail that they're building a hiking trail 20 feet off my living room wall. My options are to take a little money for my yard that isn't mine anymore or they'll use eminent domain to take it anyways.

So I guess my final theory is I'm going to enjoy my life, and I could really care less if the Japanese people exterminate themselves due to their lack of producing children.

We already have lax immigration laws, which is why the United States takes in over 4 times as many immigrants as Germany, who takes in the second largest amount in the world. Almost 1 in 5 immigrants in the entire world come here.

Japan takes in only 1.1% of the world's immigrants. The US takes in 19.8% of the world's immigrants. 1.9% of Japan's population is immigrants. 14.3% of the United State's population is immigrants.

3.3% of the world's population is immigrants. We take in 6 times our fair share of immigrants.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...dent_territories_by_immigrant_population

I am very much in favor of immigration, but think at this time in our history we should only let in people who benefit the people of the US.

Keith

Pat Buchanon has a very good book entitled Death of the West if you want to check it out it’ll open your eyes about how things are unfolding in the world.

Yes. And Japan called, and they said they would like to have her back.

How much she cost?

They are not asking for reparations.

I thought maybe his first one figured he couldn't afford a second one.

We could start a go-fund me page for him.

If that 2.11 rate were doubled ObamaCare might work.

Robots ! That’s how
Don’t need as many people for the workforce

We can hardly sustain ourselves as our resources are stretched so thin. I have no opposition to a population decline.

I offered to give her back, but they said she's too Americanized.

Jim

Modern economies have to grow. A shrinking population will lead to deflation, deflation is the death blow to a modern economy.