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Posted By: mudtracker

Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 12:33 PM

I have two dogs in my house one is an older terrier poodle mix and a two year old yelloiw lab. We used to just leave the food dish with food in it at all times. But you can't do that with this lab. She will eat all the food every time. So now they both get fed two times a day. The labs food is gone in a minute. The other dog will wander over take a look, maybe eat a piece or two anbd that's it. But the next time she comes to the dish it's empty cause the lab eats it when no one is looking. Now the little dog is hungry and runs around the house looki ng for every crumb, follows you around, just being a general pain. This has been going on for over a year. This dog is just too dumb to figure she needs to eat when her dish is filled. It's like she's a cat.
Posted By: 3togo

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 12:37 PM

Labs do that. Some dogs are self regulating when it comes to eating. Don't get a hound, they eat just like labs.
Best thing would be to teach the lab to not eat out of the other dog dish. Maybe keep them separated by a reasonable distance if possible.
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 12:39 PM

yes...the little dog isnt stupid....just eats differently. Sounds like a training issue,for the trainer.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 12:54 PM

I don't think you'll correct that.
Posted By: M.Magis

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:17 PM

Put something over the little dogs food that he can fit under but the lab can't.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:23 PM

I've had at least two dogs at the same time living in my house for most of my life, sometimes three. All dogs have different eating habits. Most will eat their food right away when fed twice a day. Some will eat when they feel like it.

I had a lab who was a picky eater. I kept his food and water bowl separate from the others. I kept it in my office and he was the only dog allowed in there. It worked pretty good. I had a beagle and a lab I fed together. The lab was well-mannered and would never steal food from the beagles bowl. He was taught it was off limits and obeyed that rule. The beagle was an expert food thief, an evil genius when it came to food. Nothing was safe; dog food left in bowls, leftovers left on the counter...

In your situation I would not feed the little dog between meals. Maybe she gets hungry enough to eat at meal time. Either that or put her food somewhere the lab doesn't have access to it (if you can find such a place) or train the lab that her food is off-limits. That could be difficult. My current lab is a hard head and kinda dumb. He's been disciplined multiple times for getting in the garbage. Yet he will still stick his head in the trash can right in front of me! He's lucky he's the best darn hunter I've ever owned.
Posted By: pcr2

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:26 PM

caught mine getting her own bone out of the box this morning.
Posted By: corky

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:31 PM

Beagles and Labs will eat until their skin splits. Good luck.
Posted By: racerboy108

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by pcr2
caught mine getting her own bone out of the box this morning.


She got tired of waiting for you to get her one. Lol
Posted By: brewer

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by 3togo
Labs do that. Some dogs are self regulating when it comes to eating. Don't get a hound, they eat just like labs.
Best thing would be to teach the lab to not eat out of the other dog dish. Maybe keep them separated by a reasonable distance if possible.


You should be able to train the lab to only eat from her dish, maybe while juggling... I'm not sure if you can train the terrier/poodle smile
Posted By: rod-dog

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 01:58 PM

Lugnut...i stopped a garbage dumping lab in one session...put a set mouse trap in the garbage can, one time and he will convince himself there is a monster in there...
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:01 PM

Great idea!
Posted By: Badgerman50

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:06 PM

I have a cur/airedale female who begs (people) and bulliy’s (my other dogs) her way through life. No food is safe from her unless it’s in your hands. By far the smartest dog I’ve ever had. Also the most loyal. I can tell you what we do. My other dogs are fed under our watch to make sure they have enough. Sometimes we feed them separately. My plott/cur male does self regulate. He’s very good natured but when he feels like he’s getting ripped off he eventually takes matters into his own hands we end up with a rip roaring dog fight right in the kitchen. They’re an even match and hard to break up. She usually settles down for a while after that. It happens about once a year when we get complacent.
Posted By: trapre

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by rod-dog
Lugnut...i stopped a garbage dumping lab in one session...put a set mouse trap in the garbage can, one time and he will convince himself there is a monster in there...

I was going to say the same thing after reading Lugnuts post but you beat me to it! It does work very well. In garbage cans toilet paper and I've even seen it rigged up IN a toilet with tape to break the potty drinking habit. Works immediately.
Posted By: ratbrain

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by pcr2
caught mine getting her own bone out of the box this morning.


LOL Our Australian Shepherd will help himself to the Milk-bone box if you leave the pantry door cracked open. He'll only take 1 at a time.
Posted By: pcr2

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:30 PM

she wouldn't eat it til i said o.k.
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by trapre
Originally Posted by rod-dog
Lugnut...i stopped a garbage dumping lab in one session...put a set mouse trap in the garbage can, one time and he will convince himself there is a monster in there...

I was going to say the same thing after reading Lugnuts post but you beat me to it! It does work very well. In garbage cans toilet paper and I've even seen it rigged up IN a toilet with tape to break the potty drinking habit. Works immediately.



Had a Doberman that was a terror on getting into the garbage. Tried the hot peppered eggs, mouse traps and dosed in Tabasco sauce to no avail. Finally put a fence charger in the other room and a wire around the top of the trash can with a mat of rabbit wire the trash can sat on. One shot was all it took and she would run if you picked up the trash can. Got the ex wife twice before got the dog though.
Posted By: pcr2

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 02:50 PM

laugh
Posted By: TDHP

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by mudtracker
This has been going on for over a year. This dog is just too dumb to figure she needs to eat when her dish is filled. It's like she's a cat.


And the trainer has dealt with it for over a year? confused Every dog is different and could be trained in various ways. Dogs like that need a little more attention and may need to be supervised while eating for a period of time, so the handler/trainer/owner can properly correct the behavior. Repetition with good training and time. Your dog will only learn if it is trained/taught, if the trainer lacks the knowledge to effectively train their pet, it isn't the pets fault.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 03:34 PM

Don't feed the little dog until he is hungry.
Posted By: wildflights

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Drifter


Had a Doberman that was a terror on getting into the garbage. Tried the hot peppered eggs, mouse traps and dosed in Tabasco sauce to no avail. Finally put a fence charger in the other room and a wire around the top of the trash can with a mat of rabbit wire the trash can sat on. One shot was all it took and she would run if you picked up the trash can. Got the ex wife twice before got the dog though.


The dog learned faster than the X. grin
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Lugnut
The beagle was an expert food thief, an evil genius when it came to food. Nothing was safe; dog food left in bowls, leftovers left on the counter...

ROTFLMAO! Sounds like every Beagle ever whelped, certainly like every Beagle I ever kept! I like the cubby set idea for the little dog. But, Labs ain't stupid, gonna have to make it solid and heavy.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by BigBob
Originally Posted by Lugnut
The beagle was an expert food thief, an evil genius when it came to food. Nothing was safe; dog food left in bowls, leftovers left on the counter...

ROTFLMAO! Sounds like every Beagle ever whelped, certainly like every Beagle I ever kept! I like the cubby set idea for the little dog. But, Labs ain't stupid, gonna have to make it solid and heavy.



Pig headed thief's~ LOL
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Posted By: BigBob

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 04:12 PM

LOL, that one surely looks like trouble looking for a place to happen!
Posted By: HobbieTrapper

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 05:23 PM

Our lab is a year and a half and he regulates his eating. He has food available 24/7 but he will only eat when he is hungry.
Posted By: white17

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by rod-dog
Lugnut...i stopped a garbage dumping lab in one session...put a set mouse trap in the garbage can, one time and he will convince himself there is a monster in there...



A 110 in the trash works real well
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:11 PM

My lab got In the garbage just once. I laid a right hook on his snout the basement door was open. He rolled down the steps and never got In the garbage again. The kids were all over dad they thought I killed old baron. He laid on the floor for a bit opened one eye thumped his tail a bit and we were good to go.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by BigBob
Originally Posted by Lugnut
The beagle was an expert food thief, an evil genius when it came to food. Nothing was safe; dog food left in bowls, leftovers left on the counter...

ROTFLMAO! Sounds like every Beagle ever whelped, certainly like every Beagle I ever kept! I like the cubby set idea for the little dog. But, Labs ain't stupid, gonna have to make it solid and heavy.



Originally Posted by Law Dog
Pig headed thief's~ LOL
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i swear the beagle would put the lab up to stuff. There is no way that little beagle could reach a pizza box on the counter. Yet we'd come home to it pulled down and torn up with all the leftover pizza missing. Our gentle giant of a lab would never do anything like that on his own. He would never take food out of the other dogs bowl or anything like that.

We'd come home to that mess and the beagle had that same look that Jerry's dog does. As if to say, Yeah, I ate the pizza, so what." The lab would be hiding in his kennel looking guilty as sin. I always wondered how the beagle talked him into it. grin
Posted By: Sharon

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by rod-dog
Lugnut...i stopped a garbage dumping lab in one session...put a set mouse trap in the garbage can, one time and he will convince himself there is a monster in there...



A 110 in the trash works real well





grin
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:28 PM

If stealing does not work then it's plan B! Puppy eyes. LOL

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Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:31 PM

grin
Posted By: pcr2

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:32 PM

i'd rather it stole than give them sad puppy eyes.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:39 PM

A good dog is hard to find and better company than most people..... smile
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Marty
A good dog is hard to find and better company than most people..... smile



More loyal for sure!
Posted By: mudtracker

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:44 PM

I know the little dog isnt really stupid, she is however stubborn, and set in her ways from 10 years of being the only dog and the food dish pretty much always had food in it. It was never a problem, she didn't overeat, usually. Now she is about 12 years old and deaf or nearly deaf. A lot of times I have to give her hand signals for when I want her to kennel and to go outside. When she is outside and I want her to come in, sometimes I have to go out where she can see me and point to the door.

The lab is really a great dog but has a medical issue basically has pretty severe arthritis and is on a med that makes her hungrier and thirstier than normal. She knows she shouldn't eat from the little bowl. And if you catch her even near it gets that super guilty look. When you raise your voice at her she just about looks like she might cry, it is kind of funny.

I am thinking the 10 minutes to eat twice a day might be way to go with this. The lab only needs two minutes if that.
The lab is really easy to train she just seems to want to do what you want. The little dog was never as easy to train but was a lot easier when she could hear. I appreciate the HELPFUL COMMENTS, and FUNNY STORIES.
Posted By: mudtracker

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 06:46 PM

The lab will sit and look at me until she sees I am looking at her, then she winks at me. I would really like to know what she is thinking about when she does that.
Posted By: Miley

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 07:31 PM

House beagles and food ,you can write a book! I swear you could get a beagle to do brain surgery with the reward of a treat. Beagles look small but they can navigate counter height. Found my beagle on the dining room table eating candy out of a three tiered dish! Very fancy! Chairs were tucked tight under the table !You tell me how she got up there. Lol
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 07:45 PM

A lot of eating habits start with the size and way the litter is raised, in a big litter competitive eating is a must, take away the litter mates and the habit is still there it's a taught behavior
Posted By: elkaholic

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by mudtracker
The lab will sit and look at me until she sees I am looking at her, then she winks at me. I would really like to know what she is thinking about when she does that.

You're supposed to wink back. How are they going to know who is helpful and nice when they take over the world? That's their signal.

We couldn't figure out for the longest time why our dog wasn't eating much. Then we set up a camera in the kitchen. Caught the MIL feeding him everything a dog desired. Dang dog din't have room for any dog food.

The icing on the cake was we though we had it stopped. We ate dinner one night and the wife and I went out on the back porch. I saw the MIL thru the window moving around in the kitchen. She kept bending over, and going to the stove. I went to the door and looked in. She was taking rigatoni one by one and feeding them to him. Every time she went to the stove she would look at the window to see if we were watching. I told the wife you gotta see this. She came over.... MIL looked around and proceeded to take the whole pot of rigatoni and put it on the floor. The dog looked and sounded like it was a pig at the trough. I don't think I've ever heard my wife yell at her mom or say some of the words she did ever again. So ours wasn't a dog training problem... Ours was a human training problem.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 08:48 PM

They do love pizza!

Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 08:51 PM

And chicken nuggets.

Posted By: Badgerman50

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/22/19 11:54 PM

That’s one of the best things I’ve ever seen. Bravo!
Posted By: bucksnbears

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/23/19 01:09 AM

Dogs that won't listen go bye- bye.
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Dogs that refuse to learn - 02/23/19 02:19 AM

We had a lab cross we called Dog. He wouldn't bother any thing we left on the counter except butter. He would risk life and limb for a stick of butter.
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