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Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm

Posted By: wr otis

Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 12:55 AM

Saw something on rfd the other day about a pork shipment from China to us being halted. Not sure who stopped it or why, other than the African swine flu that is all over the place over there.

Bigger question might be why are we importing pork at all from China. Where does it go, and what form is it in?
The idea of eating Chinese anything worries me as they seem to give no consideration to quality control or health ramifications. Lead paint in children's toys, what in the world might there be in food products.
Posted By: bacatrapper

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 12:59 AM

Many of the canned vegetables in dollar stores are from china.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 01:02 AM

Has a lot of plastic in it.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 01:03 AM

wr otis, some years back I hauled Iowa Organic soybean meal to a small feed mill near Syracuse NY. I did pick it up in Iowa. Was in a train car. Guy that was shipping it told me it was from China. Said all their grain was organic they didn't use fertilizer let alone herbicide or pesticide. I asked if it was from China how he could even be sure it was soybean meal. Made him mad. The paperwork I had for the NY feedmill said organic Iowa soybean meal.

In short you don't have a clue what your really eating or where it came from.
Posted By: Bob_Iowa

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 01:04 AM

I would like to hear this answer when the pork price here is around .35 per pound here, and guys are losing their shirts trying to feed them.
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by wr otis
Saw something on rfd the other day about a pork shipment from China to us being halted. Not sure who stopped it or why, other than the African swine flu that is all over the place over there.

Bigger question might be why are we importing pork at all from China. Where does it go, and what form is it in?
The idea of eating Chinese anything worries me as they seem to give no consideration to quality control or health ramifications. Lead paint in children's toys, what in the world might there be in food products.


We just have gmo's. That doesn't worry you?
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
Originally Posted by wr otis
Saw something on rfd the other day about a pork shipment from China to us being halted. Not sure who stopped it or why, other than the African swine flu that is all over the place over there.

Bigger question might be why are we importing pork at all from China. Where does it go, and what form is it in?
The idea of eating Chinese anything worries me as they seem to give no consideration to quality control or health ramifications. Lead paint in children's toys, what in the world might there be in food products.


We just have gmo's. That doesn't worry you?

Not a bit
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 01:31 AM

If they send toxic toys for our children just think what could be in that pork! sick
Posted By: chas3457

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 02:14 AM

China bought the company that makes Smithfield Hams, three years ago. They can send us all the pork they want to. sick





Charlie
Posted By: KansasAce

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 02:18 AM

Smithfield processes ham here stateside that would be USA produced. Not shipped over sea and then processed so whatever is bein stopped ain’t bacon or ham or sausage.
Posted By: Bob_Iowa

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 02:27 AM

You’re right chas3457 I need to research this more but Smithfield was bought by a china company and it would give them the right to bring in what they want.
Posted By: Hydropillar

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 02:40 AM

I read about the deal too... im stricktly guessing but id say it was banned in china and someone tried to black market it here.... have never heard of china exporting pork. what gets me is they will ban our beef or pork from a mad cow disease scare from 1 confirmed animal in the whole country ... yet they eat chicks ready to hatch, bugs, worms, you name it.
that goes for the japs too..if i was president they would be happy to slurp down spinal cord out of a old milk cow!! to continue there crap exported into our country
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Posted By: star flakes

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 02:54 AM

For a bit of history lesson in this. It was George HW Bush who brought China from the millet fields and rice paddy to the industrial age. If you remember, Walmart in their first ads were AMERICAN MADE. That vanished as it became Chinese.
20 years ago, China was dumping subsidized cast iron for our pots and everything else into the United States to knock off American manufacturing, which was helped overseas by Bill Clinton in betraying the Unions. Once the Americans were out of the market, you will notice how prices have all spiked in Made In China. The California Dairy cartels did the same thing in driving US family farm milk producers out of business, and then milk went from 1.29 a gallon to 4 dollars a gallon.
During the Obama regime, historical 44, embarked on turning America over to a select group of conglomerates who would run the American economy. Amazon is a key element of this, and you will notice that under Mr. Trump, Shopko, Payless Shoes and hosts of other businesses are going bankrupt. The day will come with an Amazon monopoly that all your prices will begin gouging everyone again.
For those who think America is a place of righteous business. Back in the 1970's, American farmers were penalized for "dirty grain". I know of Cargill, which is a Jewish concern in Minneapolis was shipping wheat to China. One of the truckers who told me this, was sitting in line to unload and he asked another trucker what he was hauling. He said "expletive". When asked to explain, he said, he had a load of rat crap, chaff and whatever that had been cleaned out of grain in local elevators, and was being mixed back in to the Chinese shipment as inert matter. This got so bad the Chicoms started screaming about it.
For the record, China has zero quality control. If something gets banned there, it will appear in some South American country and shipped back into the United States. The Rothchilds own the lions share of Indian agriculture, and that land is toxic. Basmati rice grown in India is loaded with heavy metals. It is repackaged though and shipped into the United States as not Asian. Most of the Alaskan fish is caught by Russian trawlers and either is Russian or Chinese processed and shipped to American again.
To put it this way, when you do not protest that your Grade A Large Eggs are now medium sized eggs, and a percentage are old eggs mixed with new eggs, do you really want to know how many of those Smithfield hams were pigs that died under 100 other pigs in a truck and laid their two days before processing by Mexicans or that you are not getting a percentage of Brazilian, Russian, Vietnamese pork legs which are cheaper sold to you in the profit structure?
The Vietnamese were dumping their fish into the US driving American catfish producers out of business. It is like all that Brazil beef started being dumped into America, but is being sold at American prices, as American beef, where most American beef is Canadian box beef.
Trappers have been smeared for cruelty to animals, but what is being done to animals in the livestock agribusiness industry is inhumane from dairy cows which are burned out in a few years being fed only corn diets until they break down to what is being dumped out of China. American grain agriculture is Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill which is Jewish British and Gavilon Grain which is George Soros, and they all sell to China, and were selling to China even with Donald Trump's soybean embargo which was crippling the US farmers.
Posted By: Hydropillar

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by star flakes
For a bit of history lesson in this. It was George HW Bush who brought China from the millet fields and rice paddy to the industrial age. If you remember, Walmart in their first ads were AMERICAN MADE. That vanished as it became Chinese.
20 years ago, China was dumping subsidized cast iron for our pots and everything else into the United States to knock off American manufacturing, which was helped overseas by Bill Clinton in betraying the Unions. Once the Americans were out of the market, you will notice how prices have all spiked in Made In China. The California Dairy cartels did the same thing in driving US family farm milk producers out of business, and then milk went from 1.29 a gallon to 4 dollars a gallon.
During the Obama regime, historical 44, embarked on turning America over to a select group of conglomerates who would run the American economy. Amazon is a key element of this, and you will notice that under Mr. Trump, Shopko, Payless Shoes and hosts of other businesses are going bankrupt. The day will come with an Amazon monopoly that all your prices will begin gouging everyone again.
For those who think America is a place of righteous business. Back in the 1970's, American farmers were penalized for "dirty grain". I know of Cargill, which is a Jewish concern in Minneapolis was shipping wheat to China. One of the truckers who told me this, was sitting in line to unload and he asked another trucker what he was hauling. He said "expletive". When asked to explain, he said, he had a load of rat crap, chaff and whatever that had been cleaned out of grain in local elevators, and was being mixed back in to the Chinese shipment as inert matter. This got so bad the Chicoms started screaming about it.
For the record, China has zero quality control. If something gets banned there, it will appear in some South American country and shipped back into the United States. The Rothchilds own the lions share of Indian agriculture, and that land is toxic. Basmati rice grown in India is loaded with heavy metals. It is repackaged though and shipped into the United States as not Asian. Most of the Alaskan fish is caught by Russian trawlers and either is Russian or Chinese processed and shipped to American again.
To put it this way, when you do not protest that your Grade A Large Eggs are now medium sized eggs, and a percentage are old eggs mixed with new eggs, do you really want to know how many of those Smithfield hams were pigs that died under 100 other pigs in a truck and laid their two days before processing by Mexicans or that you are not getting a percentage of Brazilian, Russian, Vietnamese pork legs which are cheaper sold to you in the profit structure?
The Vietnamese were dumping their fish into the US driving American catfish producers out of business. It is like all that Brazil beef started being dumped into America, but is being sold at American prices, as American beef, where most American beef is Canadian box beef.
Trappers have been smeared for cruelty to animals, but what is being done to animals in the livestock agribusiness industry is inhumane from dairy cows which are burned out in a few years being fed only corn diets until they break down to what is being dumped out of China. American grain agriculture is Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill which is Jewish British and Gavilon Grain which is George Soros, and they all sell to China, and were selling to China even with Donald Trump's soybean embargo which was crippling the US farmers.

wow thats out there.... guess you havent been around a packing plant in the usa!
Posted By: NonPCfed

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 03:53 AM

The largest pork processing conglomerate in the world is Chinese owned. The largest beef processing group is Brazilian owned. Sort of says something right there about how North America has allowed things run away from us...
Posted By: Hydropillar

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by NonPCfed
The largest pork processing conglomerate in the world is Chinese owned. The largest beef processing group is Brazilian owned. Sort of says something right there about how North America has allowed things run away from us...

no argument.... but our food industry is second to none.... the beef packing plant here in town has inspectors doing their job...... are you concerned when you go to the grocery store???
Posted By: M.Magis

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by star flakes
For a bit of history lesson in this. It was George HW Bush who brought China from the millet fields and rice paddy to the industrial age. If you remember, Walmart in their first ads were AMERICAN MADE. That vanished as it became Chinese.
20 years ago, China was dumping subsidized cast iron for our pots and everything else into the United States to knock off American manufacturing, which was helped overseas by Bill Clinton in betraying the Unions. Once the Americans were out of the market, you will notice how prices have all spiked in Made In China. The California Dairy cartels did the same thing in driving US family farm milk producers out of business, and then milk went from 1.29 a gallon to 4 dollars a gallon.
During the Obama regime, historical 44, embarked on turning America over to a select group of conglomerates who would run the American economy. Amazon is a key element of this, and you will notice that under Mr. Trump, Shopko, Payless Shoes and hosts of other businesses are going bankrupt. The day will come with an Amazon monopoly that all your prices will begin gouging everyone again.
For those who think America is a place of righteous business. Back in the 1970's, American farmers were penalized for "dirty grain". I know of Cargill, which is a Jewish concern in Minneapolis was shipping wheat to China. One of the truckers who told me this, was sitting in line to unload and he asked another trucker what he was hauling. He said "expletive". When asked to explain, he said, he had a load of rat crap, chaff and whatever that had been cleaned out of grain in local elevators, and was being mixed back in to the Chinese shipment as inert matter. This got so bad the Chicoms started screaming about it.
For the record, China has zero quality control. If something gets banned there, it will appear in some South American country and shipped back into the United States. The Rothchilds own the lions share of Indian agriculture, and that land is toxic. Basmati rice grown in India is loaded with heavy metals. It is repackaged though and shipped into the United States as not Asian. Most of the Alaskan fish is caught by Russian trawlers and either is Russian or Chinese processed and shipped to American again.
To put it this way, when you do not protest that your Grade A Large Eggs are now medium sized eggs, and a percentage are old eggs mixed with new eggs, do you really want to know how many of those Smithfield hams were pigs that died under 100 other pigs in a truck and laid their two days before processing by Mexicans or that you are not getting a percentage of Brazilian, Russian, Vietnamese pork legs which are cheaper sold to you in the profit structure?
The Vietnamese were dumping their fish into the US driving American catfish producers out of business. It is like all that Brazil beef started being dumped into America, but is being sold at American prices, as American beef, where most American beef is Canadian box beef.
Trappers have been smeared for cruelty to animals, but what is being done to animals in the livestock agribusiness industry is inhumane from dairy cows which are burned out in a few years being fed only corn diets until they break down to what is being dumped out of China. American grain agriculture is Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill which is Jewish British and Gavilon Grain which is George Soros, and they all sell to China, and were selling to China even with Donald Trump's soybean embargo which was crippling the US farmers.


This isn't a history lesson, it's garbage you're parroting off some wacko animal rights/hippie websites.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 09:47 AM

It IS true that there are shenanigans going on in overseas grain shipments. Hauled a load of soybeans one time that paid about 4 times what it should have. Went from Arkansas to Chicago. The grain was junk/ moldy and small beans. Lot of trash. Paid so well because they wanted it all hauled at once. I don't know how many loads there were but it all got shipped in one day and delivered the next. Guys at the elevator in Chicago told me it was getting "blended" in with good grain for export. Cost per bushel was minimal, (may have been free) even after shipping, but would be sold at the same price as the good grain.
Posted By: NonPCfed

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 11:58 AM

Quote
Originally Posted by NonPCfed
The largest pork processing conglomerate in the world is Chinese owned. The largest beef processing group is Brazilian owned. Sort of says something right there about how North America has allowed things run away from us...

no argument.... but our food industry is second to none.... the beef packing plant here in town has inspectors doing their job...... are you concerned when you go to the grocery store???


Totally agree with you there. Our food system is pretty stinking safe given 300+ million people eating almost 24/7 and very few people get acutely sick (chronically sick may be another matter). My point is that I find it ironic that with all the livestock critters that North America produces, that the largest food processors of pork and beef here are owned by foreigners. Then again, the Brazilians have the most cattle in their country than any other in the world and I think the Chicoms have the most swine, so maybe its only fitting...
Posted By: run

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
It IS true that there are shenanigans going on in overseas grain shipments. Hauled a load of soybeans one time that paid about 4 times what it should have. Went from Arkansas to Chicago. The grain was junk/ moldy and small beans. Lot of trash. Paid so well because they wanted it all hauled at once. I don't know how many loads there were but it all got shipped in one day and delivered the next. Guys at the elevator in Chicago told me it was getting "blended" in with good grain for export. Cost per bushel was minimal, (may have been free) even after shipping, but would be sold at the same price as the good grain.


I saw some of this stuff with my eyes.
Posted By: wr otis

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 12:30 PM

Chinese have the most hogs, but they also consume the most. I have no interest in eating anything produced in China, whole thing has me wondering if I may have been anyway.

I don't know if or what they have for inspectors in Chinese plants, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were having lunch while the US bound meat was going thru. Everything else they send us is poor quality, just good enough to get by. Why would food products be any different. When you are warned not to give your dog Chinese produced raw hide chewy's, how is eating their human food going to be any better.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 04:16 PM

Saw something on tv once about the salmon coming from China. It seems they had chicken coops over some of the salmon ponds. The salmon were eating the chicken droppings as they fell into the water. That salmon was being sold by Aldis. I love salmon, but pay closer attention to the packaging labels now.
Posted By: Catch22

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hydropillar
Originally Posted by NonPCfed
The largest pork processing conglomerate in the world is Chinese owned. The largest beef processing group is Brazilian owned. Sort of says something right there about how North America has allowed things run away from us...

no argument.... but our food industry is second to none.... the beef packing plant here in town has inspectors doing their job...... are you concerned when you go to the grocery store???

If it's so great then why all the recalls. Seems more and more every day.
Posted By: run

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 05:19 PM

I agree with Catch 22.
Posted By: teepee2

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/21/19 08:03 PM

US pork imports 79% of its pork from Canada 10% from Denmark. That don't leave much for the Chi Coms.
Posted By: Bob_Iowa

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/22/19 12:51 AM

I can’t say on here what I really think of JBS, but I wouldn’t trust them. A long time family friend Roger Viadero former deputy inspector of agriculture investigated them more than once just couldn’t prove anything to them at the time but as he said you knew it was them just they had paid off the right people in Brazil to make sure nobody could connect them to anything.
Posted By: Buck (Zandra)

Re: Good ol Chinese pork,. Mmm - 03/22/19 02:50 AM

There was quite a scandal a few years ago with Chinese honey.It was an interesting story on what they found in the honey that led to a import ban on Chinese honey,how the Chinese sold it to a South American country who had no import problems with us,how they switched labels that allowed them to sell that same honey to the U.S.
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