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Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits

Posted By: kyron4

Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 06:16 AM

Wife wants to take a trip to Charleston South Carolina this summer . I see they don't honor Indiana permits but we honor theirs. What's the reason ? They honor a whole slue of states. I hate to travel unarmed. -Thanks
Posted By: coydog2

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 09:41 AM

If you look at the map it is not just your state they do not honer . Iowa honers there but like your state they do not honer ours. Each state have there own and do not really care about other states to honer . It is like MN dose not honer Iowa but we honer there permit and we are next to each other. I was told because of the politics . Here is a link to a map and will see what states will honer your permit and not . https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 10:59 AM

It is up to the South Carolina State Attorney General to reach reciprocity agreements with other State Attorney Generals. Reciprocity agreements can also be rescinded.

As a general rule, conservative State Attorney Generals honor previously made reciprocity agreements and sometimes even draft new ones while liberal State Attorney Generals almost never forge new reciprocity agreements and sometimes rescind previously made agreements.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 12:04 PM

I thought republicans promised us if elected there would be national reciprocity?

if you carry concealed how will anybody know you are armed unless you are forced to defend yourself?

if you are forced to defend yourself and get charged with a crime the prosecutor must convince 12 ordinary people that is a crime. it must be unanimous.

exorcise your right . your ancestors that risked all their property and their lives and their families lives to have your right recognized would disown you if they were here and you do any less.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 12:35 PM

Ft Sumter?
Posted By: Chamacat

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 12:39 PM

Yep..Looks like the United states isn't so "United"
Posted By: white17

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by kyron4
Wife wants to take a trip to Charleston South Carolina this summer . I see they don't honor Indiana permits but we honor theirs. What's the reason ? They honor a whole slue of states. I hate to travel unarmed. -Thanks


SC law allows you to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle....they are VERY specific about where the gun can be. Trunk, console, glove box, back seat. What type of vehicle are you using ?

Go here: http://handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry-1.pdf

Scroll down to page 33. Section 16-23-20 UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUNS: EXCEPTIONS scroll down to 9A.

(9)a person in a vehicle if the handgun is:(a)secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance. If the person has been issued a concealed weapon permit pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23, then the person also may secure his weapon under a seat in a vehicle, or in any open or closed storage compartment within the vehicle's passenger compartment; or(b)concealed on or about his person, and he has a valid concealed weapons permit pursuant
Posted By: chas3457

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 01:10 PM

Nebraska honors Minnesota permits but they don't honor ours. frown




Charlie
Posted By: goatman

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 03:04 PM

Illinois may have started that. When forced to have a concealed carry they honor no states carry card.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 03:42 PM

There are some neighborhoods in IL the legislators voting against self defense should be forced to walk around in, unarmed and alone, once a week as long as they are legislators.
Posted By: coydog2

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by kyron4
Wife wants to take a trip to Charleston South Carolina this summer . I see they don't honor Indiana permits but we honor theirs. What's the reason ? They honor a whole slue of states. I hate to travel unarmed. -Thanks


SC law allows you to carry a loaded handgun in your vehicle....they are VERY specific about where the gun can be. Trunk, console, glove box, back seat. What type of vehicle are you using ?

Go here: http://handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry-1.pdf

Scroll down to page 33. Section 16-23-20 UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUNS: EXCEPTIONS scroll down to 9A.

(9)a person in a vehicle if the handgun is:(a)secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle; however, this item is not violated if the glove compartment, console, or trunk is opened in the presence of a law enforcement officer for the sole purpose of retrieving a driver's license, registration, or proof of insurance. If the person has been issued a concealed weapon permit pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23, then the person also may secure his weapon under a seat in a vehicle, or in any open or closed storage compartment within the vehicle's passenger compartment; or(b)concealed on or about his person, and he has a valid concealed weapons permit pursuant

For things in SC is going for all that been going on you do not know how you will be treated if you do have a gun on you to carry with in the permit you have from a state they do not honor.
Posted By: tjm

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 04:11 PM

So, do people ask if you are carrying? I mean if it is concealed, that means no one can know it's there, so what is with jumping through hoops? The idea of permits is not to allow. If you have a permit and use the gun will you just walk away or be put through 7 kinds of investigation? I have said for 50 years or so that anyone getting a permit is anti gun, because you reinforce the notion that guns should be controlled.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 05:49 PM

Some do and some don't honor other States, some States just issue a permit for just passing a background check and some require classes and shooting requirements. Some States require a enhanced permit from some States also that will increase the amount of States a guy can carry in also.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/21/19 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by tjm
I have said for 50 years or so that anyone getting a permit is anti gun, because you reinforce the notion that guns should be controlled.


It's easy to be condescending when you live in a state that doesn't require a concealed carry permit.
Posted By: Steven 49er

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 02:30 AM

The reason MN doesn't recognize some states permits is because those states permitting process doesn't meet our standards.

Don't beat me up, I'm just a messenger.
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 02:42 AM

"No comment" may be the best comment to use for this topic.
Except for maybe saying that don't travel to a State when the ground is too hard for a shovel.
(Probably shoulda stuck with no "comment.")
Posted By: Aaron Proffitt

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by tjm
I have said for 50 years or so that anyone getting a permit is anti gun, because you reinforce the notion that guns should be controlled.


It's easy to be condescending when you live in a state that doesn't require a concealed carry permit.



I wonder how many of our members have ever faced serious legal issues due to their principles . I'm guessing few if any. I bet even fewer are actually willing to do time for them .

Save me the " I'd fix bayonets " speech . You most likely had your chance to do that, too.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by Steven 49er
The reason MN doesn't recognize some states permits is because those states permitting process doesn't meet our standards.

Don't beat me up, I'm just a messenger.


Mn has a similar problem as Il and several other states. Too many people in the cities making decisions for the entire state. mad
Posted By: tjm

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:13 AM

Not condescending at all, but I never bought an anti gun permit either. And if I had it would have been with the knowledge and admission that I was going against the idea of having a "right". fwiw, when I first said that I was living in either Ma or R.I.
It defies logic to say you have a permit for a right. Permits are for privileges.
This state did require permits a few months ago and still sells them. I'm not sure but think they still require them in some circumstances. I guess I should find out what our new law allows and doesn't allow...
Posted By: kyron4

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tjm
So, do people ask if you are carrying? I mean if it is concealed, that means no one can know it's there, so what is with jumping through hoops? The idea of permits is not to allow. If you have a permit and use the gun will you just walk away or be put through 7 kinds of investigation? I have said for 50 years or so that anyone getting a permit is anti gun, because you reinforce the notion that guns should be controlled.


By that logic why get a drivers license, or a hunting or fishing license ? Don't I have the "right" to harvest game to feed my family ? Why follow any laws if it's a "right" ? I'm sure all the gang thugs in Chicago are on board with you. Not trying to be snarky, I just know someone who's life/family was ruined because he thought he didn't need to follow the law.

" If you have a permit and use the gun will you just walk away or be put through 7 kinds of investigation? "

No, but caring a concealed weapon without a permit is not going to work in your favor.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:39 AM

Most permits issued in a right to carry State are for use in reciprocal States as proof you qualify in your own State.
Posted By: tjm

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:44 AM

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By that logic why get a drivers license, or a hunting or fishing license ? Don't I have the "right" to harvest game to feed my family ? Why follow any laws if it's a "right" ?

Neither driving nor hunting is included in the Constitution. By your logic you can make a pumpkin pie from tomatoes.
Posted By: kyron4

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:57 AM

Does the Constitution allow me to carry in a school, post office, or government building too ?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 03:58 AM

I just take into consideration that some places in this Country really don't give a hoot what we think and care less what the system would do to us so I'll pass on picking and choosing how I interpret the rule of law in that State, a $10 dollar permit is better then a 10 year sentence.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 06:56 AM

Being alive is better than being dead.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Law Dog
Most permits issued in a right to carry State are for use in reciprocal States as proof you qualify in your own State.


Correct. MO (tjm's home state) doesn't require a permit for open or concealed carry but issues permits so a Missourian can be legal in all the states that require permits and have reciprocity agreements with MO.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by tjm
I have said for 50 years or so that anyone getting a permit is anti gun, because you reinforce the notion that guns should be controlled.


It's easy to be condescending when you live in a state that doesn't require a concealed carry permit.



Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
I wonder how many of our members have ever faced serious legal issues due to their principles . I'm guessing few if any. I bet even fewer are actually willing to do time for them .

Save me the " I'd fix bayonets " speech . You most likely had your chance to do that, too.


Exactly

I used to exercise my 2A right when working in NJ (theoretically speaking of course) because I think it is ludicrous that I become a felon as soon as I cross the Delaware river for doing something that is completely legal on my side of that river.

When I realized I would automatically spend two years in jail if caught I capitulated. I now risk becoming a government-mandated victim of crime every time I cross that bridge.

It's a tough choice, government-mandated victim or government-mandated felon.

Practicality beat principle in that decision.
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 10:36 PM

Sometimes it's due to disparities in the training requirements, if any. I had a Florida permit, before Mo went "No permit Required", and let it go, as many states wouldn't honor a Fla permit issued to a non resident. Never considered a Mo permit because I didn't care for my county government to know I carry.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 10:51 PM

States rights they were the first state to leave the union. You could sue and go to the supreme court to see how that works out.

Bryce
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 10:58 PM

I have carried in all 48 states when i was still driving over the road. Many of them it would have been a felony. I stayed low key and never had to go in front of a jury. I was in cities like east St. Louis. Chicago Memphis Brooklyn NY LA New Orleans regular. All the cops i saw were armed. I dont believe my life is less important than theirs. Takes a special kind of special to arrest and charge a man for just being armed.
Posted By: tjm

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 11:14 PM

Unless you are in violation for something else and they are searching you, how would they know?
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Why won't South Carolina honor Indiana gun permits - 05/22/19 11:20 PM

Yep tjm.
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