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Posted By: james dymond

coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 11:19 AM

Does anyone do well without using urine?

Jim
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 11:48 AM

I dont use urine at every set. I catch em in non-urine sets also.
Posted By: Michael Morris

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 12:41 PM

I don't leave home without it.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 12:59 PM

I use both fox and yote urine during the season!
Posted By: tjm

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by james dymond
Does anyone do well without using urine?

Jim

It doesn't have to be coyote, but I think urine has it's uses, both as a curiosity attraction and as a confidence builder. Red fox urine is likely somewhat better than coyote urine in general.
At a baited set I don't think urine is required at all, at a big bait-dead pile- especially the use of urine would be superfluous, however it would not be detrimental.
At a snare or blind set the use of urine would be positively detrimental, imo.
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 04:10 PM

Stuck to using coyote and bobcat. Fox urine down here attracts way too many deer. Quit using it and my tripped traps dropped by 75%. Generally if it could make it a day or two after the initial spray I was good. Very few did though. Mainly have scent post sets right now, so I use urine.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by james dymond
Does anyone do well without using urine?

Jim


yep, no urine is needed at all
Posted By: Jurassic Park

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 04:47 PM

I use red fox urine at every dirt hole set I make. I have it ingrained in my mind that a fox can walk by a dirt hole set and not smell the bait inside. But if you spray the backing with urine, the fox will smell that and investigate it and therefore smell the bait in the dirt hole.

Again, this is just what I’ve made up in my head and it works for me. I haven’t experimented any other way. It works for me!
Posted By: Sleepyhollow

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 05:19 PM

I'm not a big urine fan unless Its from a single coyote per bottle. Andy weiser and Wayne Derrick is where I get mine. I had mix urine. I think its waste if money
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 07:02 PM

I've been doing a lot of testing of lures and bait in the last year and can say you could trap a lot of coyotes with just a good bait or lure. I cut way back on the # of sets used urine at last year and didnt see any drop in my catch ratio.
Posted By: J. Brooks

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 08:13 PM

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Posted By: TONY.F

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 08:29 PM

will you catch yotes without it YES will you catch every yote without it , im leaning towards NO. Its just another tool ! I use a 9/16 wrench the most in my tool box but im sure happy to have the others
Posted By: Mercer Lawing

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 09:32 PM

Coyote urine is an unnecessary addiction.

It's easy and fun to use and the subject of endless internet exchanges but take mine away and I would be fine.

There's a leading MT trapper who's name your not allowed to write here who doesn't use a drop.

2-300 a year.

ML
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 09:46 PM

Nope,not necessary........didnt use it working adc either........gland lure at times
Posted By: bacatrapper

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/12/19 10:37 PM

I dont use it, but then again, I dont dig dirt holes either.

I do use cat urine in cages though.
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 12:06 AM

I'm a firm believer that the use of good quality urine at a few sets may make the difference in enticing that older varmint. I use urine at about 10 or 15% of original sets and if I have to relure, like after a heavy rain...I use urine up to about 50 or 70 % of older sets. I use it all. I buy my coyote and red fox urine but get enough grey fox and bobcat from bladders to get me by. I have used it all mixed together too.

Neccessary? ....no more than bait or lure is necessary...
Posted By: Boone Liane

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 01:08 AM

Use it at MOST locations but not all sets, for new sets.

It’s a lure. Do you use the same lure/bait at EVERY set? I dont. Some do.

Remakes all get urine, regardless of species caught.

I use more urine in January than I do November/December.
Posted By: red mt

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 01:30 AM

I ll use some in the spring,,,
Posted By: tbn

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 02:35 AM

How many baits or solutions contain urine?
Posted By: TNcat

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by tbn
How many baits or solutions contain urine?


A plenty ... lol
Posted By: Boco

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 03:30 AM

I would say for footholds,urine to canine trappers is similar to castor for beaver trappers.You don't need it to catch the critter but it gives you more options.
Posted By: Tactical.20

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 04:57 AM

I use coyote urine to thin the gland lure enough to pour out of a pop bottle
Posted By: zoozoo400

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 04:59 AM

Has anyone ever tried using their own pee? I'd love to know if that works LOL
Posted By: james dymond

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 11:10 AM

Anyone think it works better later in the season (mating season) then early when more hobby trappers are out there.
Posted By: ambush32

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 11:36 AM

I’m guilty of using it at every dirt hole, walk through, and scent post..I can honestly say I’ve never walked away from a set without using it and I use a lot of it at a dirt hole, even over my bedded trap area which is about 2x2 area..after reading the above comments I’m guessing this might not be the best..IDK..
Posted By: ambush32

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Sleepyhollow
I'm not a big urine fan unless Its from a single coyote per bottle. Andy weiser and Wayne Derrick is where I get mine. I had mix urine. I think its waste if money


Can one explain how using urine from a single coyote makes a difference at a set?
Does a coyote react differently when using urine from a single versus mixed urine from
several coyotes?

Im not calling Sleepy out, I just really don’t know...I have single urine but not sure why? Just because I guess..
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by zoozoo400
Has anyone ever tried using their own pee? I'd love to know if that works LOL

Yep, one time, ten feet from the set. Had to go. Two days later i caught a coyote.
Posted By: jeff karsten

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by ambush32
I’m guilty of using it at every dirt hole, walk through, and scent post..I can honestly say I’ve never walked away from a set without using it and I use a lot of it at a dirt hole, even over my bedded trap area which is about 2x2 area..after reading the above comments I’m guessing this might not be the best..IDK..




if you believe that you probably don't remake a set after a catch either
Posted By: Coyote Clayton

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/13/19 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by james dymond
Does anyone do well without using urine?

Jim


Not going to try. Anyone done well with no bait or lure? How bout a box trap for cats with nothing but the trap?
Posted By: TreedaBlackdog

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/14/19 12:07 AM

I never use urine. Do just fine. I never figured if I was using a decent bait or gland lure I needed another bottle.
Posted By: Tactical.20

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/14/19 04:18 AM

Bladder urine, or wet pee spot in dirt or pee in snow I use, seems to help catch the group
Posted By: run

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/14/19 07:53 PM

I love urine. Good stuff when the ground is dry.
Posted By: squacks

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/15/19 01:37 AM

I use more of it in spring when planting my garden. I squirt it on the fence posts and fill salt cellars with it to set around the perimeter. This is for DEER repellant.
I'm not positive sure that it works but I sleep better at night.....
Posted By: WadeRyan

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/15/19 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by squacks
I use more of it in spring when planting my garden. I squirt it on the fence posts and fill salt cellars with it to set around the perimeter. This is for DEER repellant.
I'm not positive sure that it works but I sleep better at night.....


I've got some ground to sell you here in Nebraska..... real cheap......deer around here love to come to urine.
Posted By: trappergbus

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/15/19 12:34 PM

I've done both, One season I used urine at half the locations and half I didn't. Seems I caught quicker at the locations where it was used. But to many factors at play to be conclusive. Now I use it at every location but not every set. Single male seems to crank the old dogs up but again to many factors at play to be conclusive. The territorial reaction can't be understated, just a dog being a dog. They just gotta overmark where another dog pees.... When urine is used for its intended purpose its priceless. It only takes a squirt!
Posted By: Tactical.20

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/15/19 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by zoozoo400
Has anyone ever tried using their own pee? I'd love to know if that works LOL

I have seen where coyote pee in same place I did 1-3 days earlier
Posted By: Ditchdiver

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/15/19 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Boone Liane

Remakes all get urine, regardless of species caught.

Isn't there enough urine already in the catch circle? Serious question.
I'm sure you catch more than me, I've just always figured that there was enough urine (and other animal smell) that adding urine would be a waste......
Posted By: kyron4

Re: coyote urine neccessary - 06/15/19 02:03 PM

I let my dog pee on a scent post set last year and had a coyote in the set the next night. I think since they can see, smell and know my dog has a "territory" it makes it more real. My dog gets turned loose in the morning and pees on what seems like random spots , but I'm sure it's where other k9's peed that night.
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