Officer involved shooting GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MW...HTDBxCnGi5jvBzKPB84oQ&has_verified=1

Good body cam video from a very recent Officer involved shooting. Sure illustrates how multiple rounds into a perp don't always stop the attack.

A lot of people around here would call that excessive force if they read an article outlining the details on this one.
Hope that Officer is O.K.

Hats off to the men and women that do that job. That situation was never going to end well, hope the officer can get back on his feet.

if you can't watch the video , guy in a yellow shirt with a knife at what looks like an apartment complex police start asking him, pleading with him to put the knife down , over and over you can hear in the cops voice he doesn't want to shoot he walks at them and they keep backing up till he is out on the highway , he gave the guy probably close to 100 yards backing up pleading with him. calling for more backup.

when the officer realizes that he is running out of room to give he tells his partner less lethal ,can't see the partner at that point but basically as soon as he says less lethal the yellow shirt guy runs at him with the knife officer fires several shots , the guy goes down and looses his knife stays down lees than a minute maybe 20 seconds then gets up and the cop asks his partner to taze him as soon as they guy hears this he charges the cop but with no weapon the cop doesn't shoot yellow shirt any more .
but yellow shirt gets him and starts wrestling him trying to get hold his gun , the cop hollers he has my gun he has my gun and other cops shoot yellow shirt ending it.

looks like a fairly clear case of suicide by cop every time the guy heard it might end with him alive he charged forcing their hand.

Thanks for that description Greencounty. I completely missed that he dropped the knife there. I was confused about why he wouldn't get back on the trigger when he got back up.

If the guy hadn't dropped the knife the cop would probably be dead. I don't see how they could handled it any more professionally than they did.

That should be shown at every trial involving and officer shooting a perp. Seeing thing like that helps in understanding the positions a cop can find himself in any day he leaves his house.
The second officer made a life saving shot under great stress.

intense

He must've been on something... or like Green Co said, suicide by cop.

Adrenaline is one (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) of a drug

What do you suppose they were hitting him with? 9mm, 40 S&W? Looked inadequate.

probably 9. Looked like the first guy was intentionally aiming low

All pistol rounds are about equal. If the assessment is that was inadequate performance, then all pistol rounds are about equally inadequate.

I agree 100%. Those officers, if anything were a little lite on force after he popped back up. They showed great restraint and proper threat assessment imo, kudos to them and glad they are ok.

X3

Also it was great seeing the paramedics right there waiting.
This whole situation could've been a lot worse

Too bad they didn't have pepper spray or a taser on their belts with their guns. Shame to kill anyone, but with what they had to work with good job!

Is there protocol for the officer to re holster his firearm after shooting the individual? I am wondering why he did not continue to shoot when the man got up and charged again? Was he likely in shock from initially engaging the individual and from training had holstered his firearm? I thank the Lord there are those willing to put their lives on the line for each of us daily and I pray God grants these officers protections in their daily duties.

A good training video. In a nutshell: More offense, less defense. But that's the times we live in. Ya know....the media is more comfortable with a dead cop than a dead bad guy. In todays day and age, sometimes you can't save your job and your life, too.

Could be a couple things. He might’ve thought the fight was over and was going to move forward to apply cuffs ( sounds strange, I know . But that’s policy in some departments. ) , maybe render first aid , etc.. Could simply be a training scar acquired at the range.

Its good to see a video of cops doing everything they can to avoid shooting somebody. I get tired of the other ones. Gets me all wound up. Im glad no cops were hurt.

The restraint exhibited by the LEO's was exemplary, but their martial skills and incident command were sorely lacking. Those guys need more, and proper, training. We should not fault the individuals involved for their lack of skills, that is an issue for their supervision. They should be credited for doing everything they could to avoid killing a man intent on being killed.

Watch the video again. His backup is holding a taser in his left hand and is about to light him up when the guy rushes the Officer for the second time.

I had to watch the video again. It appears Officer Harrison (main bodycam) did not reholster but rather looked down to see where the knife was since he kicked the knife away which is seen at the 2:27 mark just below the yellow dash line in the median. Officer Harrison calls to tazer him and the suspect is almost on top of him. The suspect did not have another knife on him so Officer Harrison didn't fire his weapon and certainly didn't have time to reach for an alternate.

Jeez! I watched the vid. I can't believe the cop back up that far , as gun happy an gung ho as cops are, they would shot u dead. If didn't drop knife in few commands around here, an i doubt the cop would back up, an cops are not bad around here compare to some states, if someone come at me with a knife an i had gun, definately be shot

Coonman, I think part of the reason for backing up was of the location of being at what looks like an apartment complex. You can see people walking in the parking lot. One miss or ricochet and it hits someone and it's a bigger mess for everyone involved.

Oh that's why, because usally police stand there ground

Lots of folks think this way until they get punched in the mouth or put in a hostile environment where their life may or may not be on the line. Most realize very quickly after the encounter that your mind and body doesn't function like it does sitting behind a monitor with the answers.

A prayer for wisdom and protection for all LEO.

if you listen the officer asks for less lethal and Yellow shirt rushes him , after the initial shooting and yellow shirt gets up again when the officer says taze him yellow shirt is rushes the officer a second time.


Suicide by cop the guy did not want to live both times yellow shirt living sounded like a possibility the he rushed the officer.

with pepper spray you need to be short distance nearly arms reach for the size you can carry on your belt to work and it doesn't work on some people, blow back in the officers eyes is very real.
tazers are only about 10-15 feet and if fired at the front can be pulled off with an arm sweep so usually they try and get around a side and get the back and they only get one shot at it.

these officers really did try to not over use force and it nearly cost them.

this video could easily make the argument that when rolling up on a situation like this they automatically grab their long gun but many departments don't keep the rifle or shotgun accessible from the front seat some don't have any in the squad at all.

at some point officers are walking around with a lot of bulk and weight on their belts much of it with very limited use.

it would have been great if the 3rd guy on the scene had brought the orange rubber slug shotgun but it looked like 3 and 4 got there as the shooting was happening.

many departments don't even have a less lethal rubber slug or bean bag gun it is a tool that has cost , adds training , and has very limited use on fairly rare occasion.

this guy did not want to live .

it is very sad the officer was put in the position of taking the guys life but that is what happened

he was really trying too hard not to kill the the guy , he was shooting low maybe on purpose or maybe because of nerves , he should have been shooting on the second rush , trying to holster his gun and take the guy hand to hand wasn't good but it was this officer trying not to be the guy who killed Yellow shirt and it backfired and nearly got the officer hurt or killed.

Gcp good post. To me it doesn't look like he wasn't trying to reholster see my post on top of this page.

Shows the importance of transparency. I know many didn't like the idea of body cams but this example shows the value.

he didn't holster right after the shooting he called in his shots on the radio that was all good it was while yellow shirt was charging him again.


at about 3:01 you can see officer Harrison is holstering as yellow shirt starts at him by the second body cam on officer Bidinger by 3:03 yellow shirt in on officer Harrison by 3:06 Harrison is on his way to the ground with yellow shirt trying to get hold of his gun in the next 2 seconds .

help did arrive at 3:05 and officer Bininger looked over very quickly then back


this is exactly why body cams are so important because being that shook up and acuratly getting the second by second right and form multiple angles

it isn't just in use of force , our small town department has been running the body cams now for about 2 years , storage is an issue . so they don't run all the time just when they are getting out of the car for a stop or a call.

You are absolutely right. My apologies.
Yup storage is an issue for sure. The city here has the same policy. There have been a couple cases were the officer failed to turn on the body cam for whatever reason or they just stop recording.

He deserved what he got, u can be shot by police alot quicker than that in other situations or areas of us

The cop should have shot the perp as soon as he got back up and charged him. Sure, he was no longer armed, but as soon as he charged, it can be deemed that he was fixin' to arm himself with the cop's gun. Those are the rules of engagement in most places. I don't know about Georgia.

Have a buddy that had to use deadly force. A high speed chase through multiple counties and it ended in ours when they crashed. Shots had already been fired from the vehicle being pursued and upon crashing they were ordered to stick their hands out the window and exit the car. The driver had had enough and complied. The passenger decided to come out with a weapon in each hand. Passenger was met with 4 shots. 2 from my buddy (M4) and 2 from another LEO. After autopsy my buddies were the bullets that connected...chest shots. The LEO with the pistol missed both shots.
After a lengthy investigation my buddy was found to be in the right. According to the driver the passenger wasn’t going back to prison.