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Posted By: Pike River

Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 11:13 AM

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ome people continue to think that they can gouge Canadian fans into the experience of attending an NFL game in this country.

It didn't work years ago in Toronto. And this practice clearly isn't working in Winnipeg.

The latest example of this financial fumble broke in a Canadian Press story that ticket sales were going so slow for a preseason game in Winnipeg on Aug. 22 that prices have been slashed.

The Oakland Raiders will play the Green Bay Packers.

End zone seats in the lower bowl were originally priced at $164. And that's before taxes and fees. All in, fans were being asked to fork over about $200 for the privilege of watching an NFL game that won't count. And some prices were set over the $400 mark.

When the Canadian promoters saw that only half the tickets at 33,000-seat IG Field had been sold, they announced that up to 6,000 tickets would be cut to $92, including taxes and fees.

Of course, the biggest selling feature of this game was to be an appearance by Packers sensational quarterback Aaron Rodgers, but since it's a preseason game, it's not even certain that Rodgers would play, or even how much he would play.

On Ice Entertainment set original ticket prices with the Raiders, who are the home team. Oakland receives the gate revenue and the Bombers are being compensated for providing the venue.

Ticket prices ranged from $75 to $340 before fees and taxes with all-in costs up to $439 for seats at center field, The Canadian Press reported. Some tickets in the end zones will still cost a total of $192 and $266.75, depending on the row and location.

On Ice Entertainment president John Graham told CP that the prices were influenced by the cost of bringing in the NFL teams and converting the field. The CFL field is longer and wider than the NFL field.

It was a calculated risk by the promoters. The Minnesota Vikings are the closest NFL city, and the Vikings are more popular in Winnipeg than the Packers.

Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers is a big name. But when you are struggling to fill a 33,000-seat stadium for an NFL game, you have misread the marketplace.

Winnipeg is football country. But it's the Blue Bombers of the CFL who run the show there, and they are an exciting team with a great quarterback in Matt Nichols, and they have a good chance of winning the Grey Cup in November.

That would be a big deal. Winnipeg hasn't won the Grey Cup since 1990.

The NFL is so big in the U.S. that people must assume that you can just over-price seats for a neutral-site game and people will shell out.

But apathy and greed have never proven to be a winning formula, and Toronto knows about that.

Several years ago, bright thinkers had the idea of bringing the Buffalo Bills to Toronto, believing this would a natural fit and a money-maker. The Bills are just two hours away from Toronto, and the NFL team attracts many Canadians to their games each home game.

But many Buffalo fans weren't pleased about the Bills appearing in Toronto, fearing this was a precursor to a relocation plan. And Toronto fans weren't happy because an incursion by the NFL could threaten the CFL, which has been a big part of Canada's identity and culture.

The price gouging was another problem.

There was so much gouging going on that tickets were slashed and many were given away at the last moment to try to fill Rogers Centre in Toronto. In the end, the Buffalo Bills experiment in Toronto died in 2014.

Football is a sport that is best served with passion. This is not a curiosity sport. Hard-nosed fans want to root for the home team and jeer the visitors. They want to drink beer and have tailgate parties.

When the Bills were in Toronto, the stadium was so quiet because no one cared about the Bills or the Atlanta Falcons, or whoever else was brought in for this snore-fest.

It perhaps didn't help that the Bills didn't have much in the way of a marquee name. Toronto is a good sports city and so is Winnipeg.

If the NFL were to come to Toronto and this team could be Toronto's own, what a difference it would make. The CFL's Argonauts are not even relevant in this city anymore.

But Winnipeg is different. The fans there love their Blue Bombers and their hockey team, the Jets.

There is a rich history of football and hockey in Winnipeg. It's cold in the fall and the fans are hardy. And they want to root for a winning team. Not Green Bay or Oakland in an exhibition game.

What would you rather do? Pay $400 to see the Packers-Raiders in a preseason game, or $25 to watch your hometown Bombers in a game with meaning?

It seems the fans in Winnipeg have spoken.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 11:45 AM

Good for them, Stopped watch pro football about 3 years ago along with many others in the U.S.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 11:51 AM

It amazes me that there are enough people willing to spend that kind of money to fill even half the seats just to watch a bunch of over-paid thugs play a sissified version of a once good spectator sport.
Posted By: walleyed

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by pike river


It seems the fans in Winnipeg have spoken.


I guess they'll have to stick to watching pond hockey

and selling each other maple syrup & poutine

for entertainment. laugh

w
Posted By: pcr2

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 12:14 PM

they are still sore about us winning the war of 1812. whistle
Posted By: Ronaround

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Getting There
Good for them, Stopped watch pro football about 3 years ago along with many others in the U.S.



Me to! excellent idea, and we need to be out scouting and getting out trapping equipment up to par for the big fur payoff ...lol
Posted By: rendezvous

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ronaround
Originally Posted by Getting There
Good for them, Stopped watch pro football about 3 years ago along with many others in the U.S.



Me to! excellent idea, and we need to be out scouting and getting out trapping equipment up to par for the big fur payoff ...lol





Me three! The nfl will not get a penny from me...
Posted By: nt2

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 07:44 PM

Kansas City area here. I would not go if they gave the tickets away!
Posted By: Boco

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 07:55 PM

Snore fest-good description of football.
Posted By: gryhkl

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 08:56 PM

Tax payers pay to build the stadiums so billionaires can pay players many millions each and the NFL is a non-profit organization.
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 09:01 PM

When I saw they were trying to sell tickets at $190ish CAD, I was pretty surprised.

Face-value tickets in historic Lambeau Field start at $109 or so for a regular season game where you get to see all the starters actually trying and the game matters. I went to 3 games last year and later in the season tickets were dirt cheap. I dont think I paid more than $50/each for any game, and even got a pair of tickets for free and my wife got sick Sunday morning so I went alone and sold the extra ticket for $20 in the parking lot.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 10:07 PM

If I got free tickets I would burn them, I would not want anyone to go watch a sport that the owners would not make there player stand for the National Anthem. JMO
Posted By: Pike River

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by tlguy
When I saw they were trying to sell tickets at $190ish CAD, I was pretty surprised.

Face-value tickets in historic Lambeau Field start at $109 or so for a regular season game where you get to see all the starters actually trying and the game matters. I went to 3 games last year and later in the season tickets were dirt cheap. I dont think I paid more than $50/each for any game, and even got a pair of tickets for free and my wife got sick Sunday morning so I went alone and sold the extra ticket for $20 in the parking lot.

That really is crazy what they think those cheap canucks would pay. I understand those prices for London games but a preseason in Winnewhere should be $20.

Also.....let me know if you come into some dirt cheap tickets again. Haven't been to a game since the Favre days. This year looks like its going to be another rough one. I'd expect Packer tickets being pretty well discounted by week 8.
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/19/19 10:58 PM

Will do Pike River. I see lots of people selling them now asking for face value or more, probably hedging their bets in case the season tanks again this year.
Posted By: Ryan McLeod

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by tlguy
When I saw they were trying to sell tickets at $190ish CAD, I was pretty surprised.

Face-value tickets in historic Lambeau Field start at $109 or so for a regular season game where you get to see all the starters actually trying and the game matters. I went to 3 games last year and later in the season tickets were dirt cheap. I dont think I paid more than $50/each for any game, and even got a pair of tickets for free and my wife got sick Sunday morning so I went alone and sold the extra ticket for $20 in the parking lot.

That really is crazy what they think those cheap canucks would pay. I understand those prices for London games but a preseason in Winnewhere should be $20.

Also.....let me know if you come into some dirt cheap tickets again. Haven't been to a game since the Favre days. This year looks like its going to be another rough one. I'd expect Packer tickets being pretty well discounted by week 8.


What’s crazy is that someone thought Canadians wanted to watch the NFL
Posted By: MB Coonguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by pike river


It seems the fans in Winnipeg have spoken.


I guess they'll have to stick to watching pond hockey

and selling each other maple syrup & poutine

for entertainment. laugh

w


Pond hockey? LOL-it is actually fun especially when your kids are playing! Maple syrup and poutine? Um no not at all.We love our hockey though-whether its on a pond,river or in the arena downtown with the Jets-what's not to love!
Posted By: old243

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 01:25 AM

I would rather watch NFL than CFL. But I am cheap, if it isn't on tv, and free I won't bother.
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 01:51 AM

I played football from 7th grade through 12th. I played for 3 different high schools and started on defense and offense on every one of them. I loved that game. I even loved the grueling practices.
I would not spend two cents to go to a pro game. Those spoiled brats make me sick. They have no idea what the word "team" represents.
Posted By: Cameron Kelsey

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 02:02 AM

Hey Ryan McLeod in 2009 I watched the Super Bowl at the Esquimalt, BC Canadian Navy Base. The base club I was watching it in was packed with Canadians.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by old243
I would rather watch NFL than CFL. But I am cheap, if it isn't on tv, and free I won't bother.

Maybe you would feel differently if the CFL showed no respect for your country or flag.
Posted By: Cameron Kelsey

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by tlguy
When I saw they were trying to sell tickets at $190ish CAD, I was pretty surprised.

Face-value tickets in historic Lambeau Field start at $109 or so for a regular season game where you get to see all the starters actually trying and the game matters. I went to 3 games last year and later in the season tickets were dirt cheap. I dont think I paid more than $50/each for any game, and even got a pair of tickets for free and my wife got sick Sunday morning so I went alone and sold the extra ticket for $20 in the parking lot.


I agree...that seems really high for a pre-season game.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/20/19 04:05 AM

That's in Canadian money-its only like $10 bucks US.
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 12:12 AM

Gotta resurrect this post real quick in case anyone isn't watching. Due to poor field conditions, the field was shortened to 80 yards and neither team is playing starters. The stands look super empty!
Posted By: Pike River

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by tlguy
Gotta resurrect this post real quick in case anyone isn't watching. Due to poor field conditions, the field was shortened to 80 yards and neither team is playing starters. The stands look super empty!

What a joke! What's wrong with the field? This is why the US didn't want to annex Canada....they cant do the simplest things right.
Posted By: Catch22

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by tlguy
Gotta resurrect this post real quick in case anyone isn't watching. Due to poor field conditions, the field was shortened to 80 yards and neither team is playing starters. The stands look super empty!

What a joke! What's wrong with the field? This is why the US didn't want to annex Canada....they cant do the simplest things right.

They, are you not in Wisconsin lol.
Posted By: Pike River

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 12:58 AM

They're playing in Canadia Catch
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:25 AM

At first I thought it was issues with the turf in endzones, but I heard one of the announcers say something about the padding around the goalposts being insufficient. Apparently there was some uncertainty about whether or not the game was even going to happen. Less than a half an hour before the game and none of the coaches or players were out on the field.
Posted By: Pike River

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by tlguy
At first I thought it was issues with the turf in endzones, but I heard one of the announcers say something about the padding around the goalposts being insufficient. Apparently there was some uncertainty about whether or not the game was even going to happen. Less than a half an hour before the game and none of the coaches or players were out on the field.

Wow.....what a debacle.


How we looking so far?
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:42 AM

here is one thing about the local loyality to the local team Blue Bombers and the tailgating etc, that just did not get through......Winnipeg has the highest ticket price for Winnipeg Jets games but this just did not go across to the NFL. Besides ticket prices can not be written off on taxes like they are in the USA as business expenses.
There was new goal post installed because it is a different size etc.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:43 AM

have seen a good increase of Wisc cars in town lately.
Posted By: handitrapper

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:49 AM

Brewers won.
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:49 AM

We're winning, but it's obvious the turf is in bad shape. Whoever was in charge of applying the little black pellets on the turf must've gotten paid by the pellet, because it looks like there are way too many out there and guys on both teams are falling down a lot. If I was Lafluer, I wouldn't bring the team back out for the 2nd half. WR St Brown got his foot caught in the turf while getting tackled and twisted his leg pretty bad then got smacked in the head by a defender leading with his helmet. So he's out, and our #1 draft pick got hurt twice.

Trevor Davis and Kumrow are looking good though.
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/23/19 01:53 AM

So they installed new goalposts or at least moved them to the back of the endzone because CFL goalposts are actually in the endzone. They had to fill the holes from the other goalposts and both teams seemed they did a terrible job filling the holes so they shortened the field 10 yards on both sides.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/24/19 02:09 AM

With all the money they lost over ticket sales..........don't think they are coming back anytime soon from that promotor.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/24/19 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Lugnut
It amazes me that there are enough people willing to spend that kind of money to fill even half the seats.


there isn't, that's why they reduced prices
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Canadian Reject NFL Gouge - 08/24/19 02:29 AM

The one game price was equal to a whole seasons worth of the Blue Bommers'
But it did end like all other games in that field, last play wins.
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