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Posted By: Finster

DOOMSDAY! - 09/19/19 11:12 PM

PFFFFFSSSSST!

Posted By: Chancey

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/19/19 11:31 PM

Man plans. God laughs.
Posted By: Finster

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/19/19 11:45 PM

Been a scam 40+ years now and the disappointing thing is that, even on here, some sheeple fall right in line..Bahhh bahhhh bahhhh...Truly amazing how easy it is to brainwash people.
Posted By: chas3457

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:29 AM

"We are poor little sheep who have lost our way Baaa Baaa Baaa."





sick Charlie
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:35 AM

Wow. Political nonsense being quoted in a video does not debunk the very real, and rather basic, science behind the warming. I have no idea how you people can be so stupid as to think humans aren't causing the warming, but you need to stop spreading this anti-science crap, it makes conservatives look like fools.
Posted By: Chancey

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam
Wow. Political nonsense being quoted in a video does not debunk the very real, and rather basic, science behind the warming. I have no idea how you people can be so stupid as to think humans aren't causing the warming, but you need to stop spreading this anti-science crap, it makes conservatives look like fools.


Respectfully, you are wrong.

If you follow the evidence, and whole-heartedly seek the Truth with an open mind like scientists are supposed to do, you will find it.
Posted By: atrapper

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:27 AM

I agree with you CGilliam. Believe what you want to believe in regards to climate change but nobody can deny the fact that humans are having a bigger impact on the planet than any one species ever has. When in the history of earth has there been one specie alone that has been the cause of so much carbon dioxide, sulfer dioxide, methane, and other anthropogenic pollutants? By the time we truly understand the implications that we're having (or if we're having an impact at all), the damage could already be done.
For as conservative as people on this site are, I'm always amazed that they can be so liberal in their views of treating our environment the right way. Isn't it sensible to be a bit more conservative right now in our treatment of the planet and think that yeah, there could be a possibility that our actions are having a negative impact and we should do what we can to reduce our ecological footprint rather than saying oh well, it's not me that's going to be effected? Even if we come to find out some day that earth is more resilient that ever expected, I'd rather die knowing I did what I could for my kids and future generations in trying to conserve and preserve what we have.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam
Wow. Political nonsense being quoted in a video does not debunk the very real, and rather basic, science behind the warming. I have no idea how you people can be so stupid as to think humans aren't causing the warming, but you need to stop spreading this anti-science crap, it makes conservatives look like fools.

Well not all of us can be a smart, good looking, atheist anarchist as yourself. Just sayin....
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:44 AM

I think if man did not even exist the weather would still cycle out. Now if Gore could get a patent on volcano eruption control and reflect the solar flares then he would be even a richer man.
I'm pretty sure man didn't cause the ice ages or the thawing ages in the past simply because he wasn't always here!
Posted By: atrapper

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:52 AM

I agree Foxpaw. Earth consists of one huge cycle. Every natural thing about it is cyclic. Of course we would have weather cycles, ice ages, and thaws with or without human activity. These things have been happening since the beginning of time. It's very likely that these cycles are the explanation for some of the weather patterns and changes we see now. But because of many of the pollutants that humans are creating and releasing we don't and wont actually know for a while if humans are having a hand in or speeding up the process of these cycles simply for the fact that earth has never experienced these pollutants at the levels that it's being exposed to now.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:56 AM

I think the Earth is gradually getting warmer naturally, however, irresponsible human behavior may be hastening the process. Politicians and media maniacs label every weird weather episode as global warming. That embarrasses the science. On the other hand, many conservatives deny everything as a hoax. It has become a tragic comedy starring the fringe....both left and right.
Posted By: B. Shope

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:59 AM

if dems and libs are so concerned they should volunteer to dissapear
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam
Wow. Political nonsense being quoted in a video does not debunk the very real, and rather basic, science behind the warming. I have no idea how you people can be so stupid as to think humans aren't causing the warming, but you need to stop spreading this anti-science crap, it makes conservatives look like fools.

Hahahahahahahahahaaa,,,what caused the constant freezing and then warming before we got here?Must have been mastodon farts I suppose.I think being from alabama,,petting foxes ,oh yea,,and being a plumber causes global warming. grin
Posted By: Chancey

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:03 AM

I agree Foxpaw. Earth consists of one huge cycle. Every natural thing about it is cyclic. Of course we would have weather cycles, ice ages, and thaws with or without human activity. These things have been happening since the beginning of time. It's very likely that these cycles are the explanation for some of the weather patterns and changes we see now. But because of many of the pollutants that humans are creating and releasing we don't and wont actually know for a while if humans are having a hand in or speeding up the process of these cycles simply for the fact that earth has never experienced these pollutants at the levels that it's being exposed to now. [/quote]

atrapper, serious question. Why should we care if our existence on earth is speeding up the inevitable? My plan is to be prepared.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:07 AM

It has finally happened: the inmates are running the asylum.
Posted By: mainer

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:16 AM

I was going to say something, but then my other self yelled: "Hey mainer! How many times have you ridden this stupid ride?"

I yelled back: "Not as many as Finster!" grin
Posted By: Catch22

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam
Wow. Political nonsense being quoted in a video does not debunk the very real, and rather basic, science behind the warming. I have no idea how you people can be so stupid as to think humans aren't causing the warming, but you need to stop spreading this anti-science crap, it makes conservatives look like fools.

Lol, maybe give a look in the mirror and make the proper accusation of who makes conservatives look like fools lol. Please enlighten us with FACTS to back up one of the most ridiculous claims ever. Your way of coming across makes me so wanting to check out your channel. grin
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:30 AM

why would anyone believe a guy about global warming who's primary house uses 21 years of your houses electricity in 1 year. clearly he doesn't even belive it.

"Hi I am Al , I flew to pick up my Nobel prize for Global warming in my private jet using as much fuel as a plane carrying a hundred passengers so I use 100 times the fuel a normal person uses and you think I got a prize for climate , I got the prize for best con in history , I make Bernie Madoff look like a carny with a rigged game."
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:32 AM

I come across this way because you people that get your panties in a wad over left vs right political lies can't see how you are being played. Greenhouse gases are a very simple concept, and the fact that they are higher than ever, and increasing, at the same time we are nearing a population of 8 billion should tell you something. I'm only 48. I remember snow in Alabama on a regular basis. I remember trapping with ice on the ground with my brother when I was probably 8 or so.
In short, stick to the science and stop quoting Brietbart and other sources of garbage.
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam
I come across this way because you people that get your panties in a wad over left vs right political lies can't see how you are being played. Greenhouse gases are a very simple concept, and the fact that they are higher than ever, and increasing, at the same time we are nearing a population of 8 billion should tell you something. I'm only 48. I remember snow in Alabama on a regular basis. I remember trapping with ice on the ground with my brother when I was probably 8 or so.
In short, stick to the science and stop quoting Brietbart and other sources of garbage.

When your done petting your fox,,you can pet Al Gore.
Posted By: Catch22

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by CGilliam
I come across this way because you people that get your panties in a wad over left vs right political lies can't see how you are being played. Greenhouse gases are a very simple concept, and the fact that they are higher than ever, and increasing, at the same time we are nearing a population of 8 billion should tell you something. I'm only 48. I remember snow in Alabama on a regular basis. I remember trapping with ice on the ground with my brother when I was probably 8 or so.
In short, stick to the science and stop quoting Brietbart and other sources of garbage.

When your done petting your fox,,you can pet Al Gore.

Yep, then come around to reality lol. Actually I think you consistently come across the way you do is because your ill mannered and you don't know of what you speak lol. Where's dem FACTS? grin
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 03:04 AM

CGilliam, are you a scientist? Or are you regurgitating some bs YOU read?
Posted By: Eric Yeatman

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 03:06 AM

Man can NOT destroy this earth and on the other side of the coin man can NOT SAVE it either
Posted By: Snowpa

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 03:11 AM

God almighty they are everywhere
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 04:38 AM


Yep, then come around to reality lol. Actually I think you consistently come across the way you do is because your ill mannered and you don't know of what you speak lol. Where's dem FACTS? grin[/quote]

It's the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community, I don't understand what facts it is you are requesting. The data supports warming. The pics and videos of the artic supports warming. The easily tested amount of CO2 and Methane in the atmosphere is undeniable, so what is it you want? Really?
Posted By: Catch22

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam

Yep, then come around to reality lol. Actually I think you consistently come across the way you do is because your ill mannered and you don't know of what you speak lol. Where's dem FACTS? grin


It's the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community, I don't understand what facts it is you are requesting. The data supports warming. The pics and videos of the artic supports warming. The easily tested amount of CO2 and Methane in the atmosphere is undeniable, so what is it you want? Really?[/quote]
Truth from you people. Lay it out, it's not to much to ask. It's been a while since you were ask, has it not and still just your opinion, words. Lay'em out, waiting, although it may be tomorrow before I see them lol. Prove the overwhelming beyond a shadow of a doubt. grin
Posted By: Badgerman50

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 05:05 AM

If global warming is real, which it isn’t, why then do so-called climate scientists feel the need to cook the books?Their pseudo science should stand up to scrutiny. It doesn’t. Why would they feel the need to defund researchers who come to a conclusion that differs from their own? Why are they always left of center. Hmmm. Something doesn’t add up. Clowns.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamest...7-percent-consensus-claims/#4639b21a485d
Posted By: atrapper

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:00 PM

Chancy, to answer your question, I shouldn't personally really care. Whatever is happening to earth isn't going to effect me in my lifetime. I've got three kids under 5 years old though and the decisions I make and how I raise them to be ecologically responsible may effect them and will certainly effect their kids. In the big scheme of things humans aren't even a blip on the radar. The earth turned for millions of years without us and it will continue to for millions of years after us. But that doesn't mean we can't be responsible for the short time we are here. This isn't a political ploy from one side or the other, it's a moral decision on my part. Think what you want and do what you want to earth but as for me and my family, we will treat earth with respect because it's been awful good to us so far.
Posted By: atrapper

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:07 PM

CGilliam, sometimes you just can't talk facts to people. At times I have to wonder what else it is that people want to hear or see that would make them see that facts are facts! Yes, the world has always cycled and climate has always changed. But not at this rate. And yes the earth is resilient but it's also never been exposed to the amount of pollutants that it is now. More pollutants, more people, much more drastic weather patters and an elevated rate in climate changes. I just can't see how these things all coming together are coincidence. If they are, then they are. But if they're not, then why not at least try to do something about it?
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:40 PM

I ran across an article from the Washing Post from 2014. Some of it went like this:

Associated Press television writer David Bauder raised an interesting question Monday, whether the major TV networks are spending too much time on “flashy” weather stories. Unfortunately, in the process, he printed a needless and demeaning cheap shot at Good Morning America’s Ginger Zee, a highly successful and talented broadcast meteorologist.

Bauder, in his piece headlined “Weather porn? Storms take over evening news“, interviewed TV news consultant Andrew Tyndall.

Tyndall, evidently, believes straight weather coverage is too shallow for the major news networks. Rather than straight weather reporting, he argues, networks should frame weather events in the context of climate change. He uses ABC’s Ginger Zee as a pawn to make his point.

Zauder reports:

“If Ginger Zee reported in the role of climatologist rather than meteorologist, I would praise ABC’s ‘World News Tonight’s’ decision as a daring intervention into a crucial national and global debate,” Tyndall said. “Instead, she is more like a pornographer.”

This unflattering portrayal of Zee and her work is uncalled for.
Posted By: Michigan Trappin

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:44 PM

If you believe In evolution I think I was taught many decades ago that all these nasty gases that are suppose to be causing global warming are the same gases that “started” life on the first place. Maybe my memory serves me wrong just throwing this out there
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 12:50 PM

So I guess the time has come that even just weather reporting is not enough for the politicians, but want to squeeze even it for their spin. Does all news, even the weather have to have a spin. I guess we are all just dumb ole country hicks that can't understand the news or even the weather and come to a conclusion on our own.

And everyone is saying we are headed downhill at an increased rate like never before. I wasn't here for some of the past, but seems like I read that many of the changes of the past were thought to be rather sudden.
Posted By: mainer

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:10 PM

The takeaway from the above Forbes article is the following:
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The question Cook and his alarmist colleagues surveyed was simply whether humans have caused some global warming. The question is meaningless regarding the global warming debate because most skeptics as well as most alarmists believe humans have caused some global warming. The issue of contention dividing alarmists and skeptics is whether humans are causing global warming of such negative severity as to constitute a crisis demanding concerted action.

This distinction is lost on almost everyone who insists that either: 1) the world is coming to an end very soon, and the only way to stop it is by reverting back to a preindustrial mode of existence, or 2) there's a global warming conspiracy perpetrated by scientists who are lying to us, and therefore there is no global warming.

It's virtually impossible to get past these two positions, or their offshoots, because each side of the culture war demands unwavering allegiance on this issue.
Posted By: seniortrap

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 01:15 PM

(I don't know how to attach the person--CGilliam)

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In short, stick to the science and stop quoting Brietbart and other sources of garbage.

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It's the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community


Is that the same group that's brainwashing our colleges. Liberal BS. And $$$$$$$$$$$

Posted By: atrapper

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 03:16 PM

That's basically what it boils down to, Mainer. I can't say that I'm in either of those camps of "the sky is falling, we'll be dead soon, and it's because of us," or "global warming and climate change are a political hoax."

I see validity in the scientific proof that humans are having an influence on the rapidity of global warming. With that said, I'd like to do my part in being environmentally conscious about how I live my life and the ecological footprint I personally leave, my family leaves, and my actions represent to others. If it turns out that I'm dead wrong about humans having an influence on climate change, then what's the worst that's happened? I've lived my life in frugal, environmentally friendly ways. And what happens if it turns out that I'm right and humans are in fact impacting the speed at which climate change is occurring? Great, I've lived a frugal, environmentally friendly life. I just don't understand what the negative is for believing that there are things I can do in my life to be environmentally responsible. Don't all of you who trap do what you can to help or improve animal populations, preserve and conserve habitat, or encourage others to understand and enjoy the natural world? This has nothing to do with watching the news, weather forecasts, politics, etc. etc. It has to do with how I live my life and how I want to treat our plant.
Posted By: hippie

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by mainer
The takeaway from the above Forbes article is the following:
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The question Cook and his alarmist colleagues surveyed was simply whether humans have caused some global warming. The question is meaningless regarding the global warming debate because most skeptics as well as most alarmists believe humans have caused some global warming. The issue of contention dividing alarmists and skeptics is whether humans are causing global warming of such negative severity as to constitute a crisis demanding concerted action.

This distinction is lost on almost everyone who insists that either: 1) the world is coming to an end very soon, and the only way to stop it is by reverting back to a preindustrial mode of existence, or 2) there's a global warming conspiracy perpetrated by scientists who are lying to us, and therefore there is no global warming.

It's virtually impossible to get past these two positions, or their offshoots, because each side of the culture war demands unwavering allegiance on this issue.



Excellent post.

Only thing I'd add is...........one side is using it for political gain.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 04:22 PM

I am driving my V8 gas guzzler around the block as often as I can afford. I want to see Obamas lawn of his 15 million mansion under water in my lifetime grin
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 07:04 PM

Maybe you won't have to wait too long Scuba1, once before after the rain started it only took 40 days and nights then it turned to Water World. As to not sound like a broken record I'll not get into the unseen things or the written word, I realize there are those that won't be ruled by the invisible supreme being, so for those I'd refer to the Story of Gilgamesh. Also the American Natives have unwritten accounts of a great sudden flood. So surely just from a history stand point we can't just dismiss all those versions. The point is if it happened it wasn't mans doing. Of course many don't think flood will overcome, but fire.

Yes I agree we need to regard Mother Nature in a kinder way. I think its best to make our own steel where things are regulated better than in China. And other things where natural resources are concerned are better done here than China or elsewhere. I think many of us fear that too many regulations are just like the gun thing, where if you give an inch they will take a mile.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 08:05 PM

I don't believe anyone truthfully knows how much human activities effect the earth's climate. I have no doubt that the main reason many people are pushing climate change is to enrich themselves and those they work for. It's a heck of a good way to convince gullible and easily manipulated people into paying more taxes. Organized religion is used exactly the same way.

Keith
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 08:36 PM

I remember the cry was overpopulation when I was growing up at every turn!
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 11:06 PM

Yep overpopulation AND an imminent ICE AGE were going to wipe out the human population.

Heard it all through my school years in the sixties and seventies.

Climate science may have greatly improved since then but the political bullcrap surrounding the earth's climate has not.
Posted By: Finster

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by CGilliam



It's the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community, I don't understand what facts it is you are requesting. The data supports warming. The pics and videos of the artic supports warming. The easily tested amount of CO2 and Methane in the atmosphere is undeniable, so what is it you want? Really?

No it's not an "overwhelming consensus" In fact, it's very far from it. I just posted information that explains it. Most non government grant paid scientist do not agree. NOAA has fudged the numers and they have been caught more than once.... So what don't you understand? Really?
Posted By: Cedar Hacker

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 11:31 PM

I was doing some work down in Venezuela in the early 70's and forest land was being cleared at a steady pace for ranches to raise cattle and fields to raise food crops. The climate scientists claimed at the time that destroying the rain forests would cause the global weather patterns to change. There would be more drought and the hurricanes would increase in numbers and intensity.

Since then several billion acres have been cleared. They could have been closer to the fact than anything I have ever heard.
Posted By: GROUSEWIT

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/20/19 11:46 PM

Don't trees need carbon dioxide to produce oxygen for us???
Posted By: Jarhead620

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/21/19 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by atrapper
That's basically what it boils down to, Mainer. I can't say that I'm in either of those camps of "the sky is falling, we'll be dead soon, and it's because of us," or "global warming and climate change are a political hoax."

I see validity in the scientific proof that humans are having an influence on the rapidity of global warming. With that said, I'd like to do my part in being environmentally conscious about how I live my life and the ecological footprint I personally leave, my family leaves, and my actions represent to others. If it turns out that I'm dead wrong about humans having an influence on climate change, then what's the worst that's happened? I've lived my life in frugal, environmentally friendly ways. And what happens if it turns out that I'm right and humans are in fact impacting the speed at which climate change is occurring? Great, I've lived a frugal, environmentally friendly life. I just don't understand what the negative is for believing that there are things I can do in my life to be environmentally responsible. Don't all of you who trap do what you can to help or improve animal populations, preserve and conserve habitat, or encourage others to understand and enjoy the natural world? This has nothing to do with watching the news, weather forecasts, politics, etc. etc. It has to do with how I live my life and how I want to treat our plant.



I see it the same way that you do atrapper. While I don't believe that man has the ability to stop this natural phenomenon it is still prudent to take practical steps to limit its severity.

Jarhead .
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/21/19 10:22 PM

The surface temperature of the sun is 10,000 degrees and it warms the earth 40* here from morning to afternoon. What is it again that causes global warming????
Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/21/19 11:21 PM

IF "Climate Change Activists" were serious they would be talking to China, India, Russia, Mexico.....No money in that, only
the good 'ol USA.
Posted By: DuxDawg

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/22/19 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by CGilliam
Wow. Political nonsense being quoted in a video does not debunk the very real, and rather basic, science behind the warming. I have no idea how you people can be so stupid as to think humans aren't causing the warming, but you need to stop spreading this anti-science crap, it makes conservatives look like fools.

Buwahahaha!!! Buwahahaha!!!

Man made Climate Change is 100% FALSE.
Nothing but socialist/communist/fascist tyranny. Man can affect micro climates. Not global climate.

Global climate has always changed, and always will. Sometimes much more rapidly than now. We don't even know what "normal" global climate would be. Doh!
Posted By: swamp donkey

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/22/19 01:50 AM

I'm gonna go light off my coal stove and turn every light on.........
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: DOOMSDAY! - 09/22/19 12:48 PM

Whether climate change is happening or not, I don't know why we keep having this argument - nobody's going to do anything about it. Especially those that scream the loudest.
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