Supporting 2A should be illegal

Only 28%? No way thats accurate.

Consider this. What IF..... it was illegal to be an NRA member AND there were national red flag laws. Can you imagine what the intersection of those two things could be ? So much for fist amendment ( freedom of association) guarantees also. Don't even think about due process.

I can't type what I think the demo rats should do, or Paul will give me a holiday

So long as the majority of both parties believe in the Second Amendment, we should be safe.

Jim

Look at the bright side. Maybe only one in four Democrats want to take our guns. So Beto is probably going down in the primary.

So long as the majority of both parties believe in the Second Amendment, we should be safe.

Jim

I disagree with you somewhat (not entirely), and I am confident enough that I am going to buy an AR just to give the finger to Beto.

I made a new bet against Trump winning re-election, so that means I think a Dem will win. I wouldn't buy the Beto gun unless I felt pretty sure ARs won't be banned.

Why do I think a new Dem administration won't ban ARs? If they're paying attention to what 72% of their own party wants, they won't. The Senate and/or courts will likely stop over-reach.

Look, at some time in the future, ARs will probably get banned. They're just such an easy target for the gun-grabbers. All we can do is forestall that day. Maybe every gun owner should buy an AR, just to make sure we have skin in the game.

Jim

It's a difference between 55% of GOP voters as opposed to 86% of Democrat voters. Significant difference.

Republicans typically are more reticent to support new gun restrictions, and Trump campaigned in 2016 on his strong support for the Second Amendment. But the poll found that 55 percent of GOP voters were comfortable with banning assault weapons.

Support for an assault-weapons ban was higher, at 86 percent, among Democrats.

The world will fall into pure chaos when we fall.

P.S. for those about to quote the bible I will only listen to those who are 100% behind the ten commandments and dedicated to supporting equally everything written in Leviticus. No more picking and choosing. All or none.

I doubt I'll listen much to them even if they strictly adhere to Leviticus.

Last I looked, the Bible had no Second Amendment.

Jim

Reagan spoke of the world falling into a thousand years of darkness if these States united fall. Historically the last time Judeo/Christian Greco/Roman Western European civilization fell, the world suffered under 800 years of poverty, misery, rape, slavery, disease and death. We still call it "The Dark Ages".

Liberty (Freedom plus Responsibility) is the greatest prosperity engine known to man. Amazing
that instead of increasing Liberty and Prosperity for all, the whole world is racing headlong into greater tyranny, poverty and misery. So sad.

Do you really think pakistan and india or isreal and russia will get along long enough for a one world government? How about china and japan?

I will probably upset a few with my comments, but such is life. First I am NOT against the 2nd admen., or the right to own a semi automatic weapon of your choice. But I would like to say that between the gun manufacturers and Testosterone pumped up macho men. they have perpetuated this crazy AR-15 talking point of the anti gun people. Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hand, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15. Some call is an Assault Rifle, Some and Automatic rifle (which it isn't). In the mean time the manufacturer capitalize on this and sell, thousand of them.

When a shooting occurs the news pickup on this black, ugly, threatening looking thing and see that it has been called an assault rifle. Then they blow this story up and villainize it. And this is then perpetuated by the anti 2 nd admen. people until it is completely out of control.

Now the stupid part begins: There are many .223 caliber rifles out there that look like regular rifle, with wood stock and forearm. You can mount a scope on them, night lights and about anything else you want. But they don't look threatening. These guns have been used for 100 years with very little concern. Large clips or magazines are not needed unless you are shooting at a range. Many states have maximum quantity or rounds permitted in a hunting weapon. I know some are five with maximum of 10, some as little as 3. But testosterone comes into the picture again. The bigger the better.

It is my suggestion that gun manufactures consider phasing out the replica military rifle and go back to the basics. Men are nothing more than little boys that have grown taller. Men are bigger suckers to advertising than women are in most cases. When the manufacturers starting coming out with Camo... my Lord... these guys went crazy buying clear down to their skivvies. Coats, hats, shirts, pants, shoes, sock and black and green paint to smear on their face.

I never owned any camo for hunting... I did a lot of hunting in a white t-shirt and blue jeans …. the last deer I killed, I was sitting on a downed tree, smoking a cigarette. Most of our grandparents didn't have all of this industry pumped up merchandise, including guns.

Another thing we are all ignorant of doing is continuingly calling the AR's by that name. I wonder how many of those over testosterone producing males would have or will now, buy an AR, if they from now on called "Blue Bell's Glory" and they are painted "Sky Blue" and all clips can hold no more than 5 in clip and one in chamber.

Human Nature is a strange thing...

Garry-

But on a religious note.

I believe the fall of America will kick off Armageddon! The world will fall into pure chaos when we fall.

I will probably upset a few with my comments, but such is life. First I am NOT against the 2nd admen., or the right to own a semi automatic weapon of your choice. But I would like to say that between the gun manufacturers and Testosterone pumped up macho men. they have perpetuated this crazy AR-15 talking point of the anti gun people. Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hand, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15. Some call is an Assault Rifle, Some and Automatic rifle (which it isn't). In the mean time the manufacturer capitalize on this and sell, thousand of them.

When a shooting occurs the news pickup on this black, ugly, threatening looking thing and see that it has been called an assault rifle. Then they blow this story up and villainize it. And this is then perpetuated by the anti 2 nd admen. people until it is completely out of control.

Now the stupid part begins: There are many .223 caliber rifles out there that look like regular rifle, with wood stock and forearm. You can mount a scope on them, night lights and about anything else you want. But they don't look threatening. These guns have been used for 100 years with very little concern. Large clips or magazines are not needed unless you are shooting at a range. Many states have maximum quantity or rounds permitted in a hunting weapon. I know some are five with maximum of 10, some as little as 3. But testosterone comes into the picture again. The bigger the better.

It is my suggestion that gun manufactures consider phasing out the replica military rifle and go back to the basics. Men are nothing more than little boys that have grown taller. Men are bigger suckers to advertising than women are in most cases. When the manufacturers starting coming out with Camo... my Lord... these guys went crazy buying clear down to their skivvies. Coats, hats, shirts, pants, shoes, sock and black and green paint to smear on their face.

I never owned any camo for hunting... I did a lot of hunting in a white t-shirt and blue jeans …. the last deer I killed, I was sitting on a downed tree, smoking a cigarette. Most of our grandparents didn't have all of this industry pumped up merchandise, including guns.

Another thing we are all ignorant of doing is continuingly calling the AR's by that name. I wonder how many of those over testosterone producing males would have or will now, buy an AR, if they from now on called "Blue Bell's Glory" and they are painted "Sky Blue" and all clips can hold no more than 5 in clip and one in chamber.

Human Nature is a strange thing...

Garry-

Mathew 5:

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.


I don't understand the reference, J Staton.

It's interesting, though, that nowhere in Matthew 5 does Jesus condemn homosexuality or abortion.

Also, in verse 32 there is this interesting piece: "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

Jim

Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hand, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15.



Garry-