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Posted By: MNCedar

MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/20/19 11:15 PM

Earlier this fall I tried a skunk-specific 120 line. Although it wasn't as lucrative as I had hoped, it was still fun. Hopefully I can learn more for next year.

My little coyote line had some success before the post-deer season lull descended. For running an average of around a dozen sets, I was really happy with the number of visits and catches they received. I didn't post all my pics but rather some of the more interesting ones.

There is also a pic of a real OG skunk as well. That was definitely the longest stand-off I've had since I started vaccinating with acetone. Thanks for looking.

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Posted By: MNRATMAN

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/20/19 11:47 PM

Very nice young man!
Posted By: atrapper

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 12:03 AM

Great work, Alex! Beautiful animals and beautiful pics. What brand of 120's were you running? With that, how full were the contents of the pods? Your friend to the south and I had a discussion or two about the coni size and brands we were using. I wonder if size and brand of trap had anything to do with how quickly it put down the skunk and if there was any essence lost due to this. I was running Duke 155's this fall and had all neck and suitcase catches but was disappointed in the lack of essence I was getting. Again, nice job!
Posted By: Osky

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 12:06 AM

Great stuff Cedar! Nice color on the one dog...

Osky
Posted By: 20scout

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 12:19 AM

Looks like your having a good year so far! Keep up the good work!
Posted By: eedup

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 12:45 AM

Looks like Belisle traps, what was the trigger placement ? Thanks
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 12:54 AM

Try a 2x4 three inches infront of the tubs and a pan on the triggers. Their front feet go between the 2x4 and tube and a perfect neck catch, when the chin hits the pan; no feet are in the trap that can block the pressure on the wind pipes.
Posted By: trapper les

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 01:02 AM

Nice pics.
Posted By: Yotegiter

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 02:59 AM

What where you baiting your boxes with?
Posted By: stinkypete

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 03:09 AM

Nice pictures. Good job
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 03:10 AM

Great pics. Good job
Posted By: rick olson

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 03:19 AM

Thanks for sharing,that one coyote is very nice.
Posted By: Trapper Dahlgren

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 10:21 AM

nice skunks an yotes , smile
Posted By: MNCedar

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by atrapper
Great work, Alex! Beautiful animals and beautiful pics. What brand of 120's were you running? With that, how full were the contents of the pods? Your friend to the south and I had a discussion or two...


These were Belisle 120's that he convinced me I needed. Regardless of trigger placement, I did have a few spray, but only a few. Those sprayers didn't have their picture taken! I tried to extract the essence on those early skunks without skinning or removing the pods. Although that works, in hindsight I believe I missed out on enough mL's to warrant removing the pods every time in the future. I'm sure most brands when they're new could eliminate spraying, but I bought the Belisles hoping they'd stay strong for a long time. The Belisle 160's I bought years ago are still as strong as the day I bought them.
Posted By: MNCedar

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by eedup
Looks like Belisle traps, what was the trigger placement ? Thanks


I'll admit I had no idea what I was doing starting out. I began with triggers on the top and eventually switched to triggers on the bottom, lightest setting, and bend slightly inward toward the bait.

Originally Posted by Yotegiter
What where you baiting your boxes with?


I was trying to avoid raccoons, possums, etc. I started out using bananas and that was a waste of time. I ultimately switched to cheap, frozen, skinless chicken breasts cut into thirds. I stabilized them (more or less) with sodium benzoate. Fresh (without SB) was best, but they would rot out so quickly it wasn't cost effective.

Originally Posted by Northof50
Try a 2x4 three inches infront of the tubs and a pan on the triggers. Their front feet go between the 2x4 and tube and a perfect neck catch, when the chin hits the pan; no feet are in the trap that can block the pressure on the wind pipes.


Awesome. That is the type of thing I need to play with. I have access to skunks, I just need to get more of a system in place. Thanks
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 01:39 PM

Had to have skunks scent free for museum specimens that is why I developed a method.

Next time if Rally does a beaver presentation at a Minn conference side track him and ask him some of his methods.

Some of the lure dealer do buy the skinned out pods because they use them ground up.
Posted By: atrapper

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 04:02 PM

Thanks for the info. I think he's also convinced me to try a dozen Belisle 120's. I like that 2x4 idea as well, Northof50. Something I noticed this year and last was that the more I caught in a trap, the more effective the set seemed to be. I'm thinking it had to do with the scent/spray left behind from the previous catch. It made me think that next year I'm going to use some sort of skunk based lure or Gusto or something at all of my sets. Fresh, frozen beaver was my bait choice as this resulted in virtually no coon.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 04:21 PM

If you watch some of Ryan's D old youtubess he has the same set up but his boxes were on 2x4's.
Principal factor is to have the belly rub and the back feet don't touch the ground as hard.
skunk lure does bring in their partners
find their winter dens and you will really cash in to 8-10 animals, then you need several traps set.
Be prepared for a fox to stick it's head in after one is caught.
Posted By: atrapper

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 05:25 PM

Ryan Dem.'s videos are where I got most of the methods I used. As you said, North, he seems to have it down. And it sounds like you do too. North, what is your trap size of choice? 120's or larger?
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 09:57 PM

120 besile, you do not want to go larger
Really nice ones to use are the Koro # 1 or the rat trap size, but for museum specimens the skulls are ruined.

Ryan use to just set on approaches to fields and spray the grass down with skunk/ water mixture, so anyone going to steal his trap was marked. He would lay down a walking board to go to the trap area and advoid the perfume on the rubber boots. Farmers welcomed him with Open Arms and many times told him where the dens were.

The Sponsor to this forum page; Tim from Minn Trapline Products buys a lot of skunk hides and yours have some good patterns. Does he not usually go to the Winter meeting you could sell them then
Posted By: Antelope Montana

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/21/19 11:53 PM

Very nice.
Posted By: eedup

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 12:31 AM

Any links to those videos ? Thanks
Posted By: atrapper

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 12:50 AM

Here's a good one he did on Trapping Inc. Ryan's youtube channel is ryan 5911. He has good stuff on there too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2q0v6Dn6s
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 12:52 AM

Ryan Demchynski's handle is ...5911Ryan on youtubee
he is also on Trapping Inc Ep1-2017 SK Skunks

faster on the key board
Posted By: MNCedar

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by Northof50

Ryan use to just set on approaches to fields and spray the grass down with skunk/ water mixture, so anyone going to steal his trap was marked. He would lay down a walking board to go to the trap area and advoid the perfume on the rubber boots.


I like that....I might have to use it. Primarily to keep people away.

I would agree that skunk smell attracts skunks and I noticed that with my tubes. I don't like having the smell in the tube because it eventually ends up on me. I wonder if the skunk/water mixture behind the set would have the same effect without getting on me or my stuff? Like having a call lure above the set, except this way I won't brush against it when I forget days later...
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 02:24 AM

Guys up north use the same methods for Ditch lice that drive down the trapping trails. They take some of Barnes Magic Marten and smear it on a overhanging spruce bough, so when the ditch lice rub by it their FANCY snowmobile jacket is marked. When those boys walk in to have a drink in the bar heads turn...and they get turfed out.
Ditch lice are snowmobilers in the wrong spot
In the old days Terry Barnes use to dye his Marten magic blue
Posted By: trapper les

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by atrapper
Here's a good one he did on Trapping Inc. Ryan's youtube channel is ryan 5911. He has good stuff on there too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf2q0v6Dn6s

Andy, I just watched that video, it's a good one. Thanks for that.
Posted By: eedup

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 04:05 AM

Neat video. Thanks. I'm having trouble picturing the 2x4 in front of the tube and a pan on the trap...I get the pan part..are they crawling over the 2x4
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by eedup
...I get the pan part..are they crawling over the 2x4
yes

The pan they are hitting with their chins
4 inches back from the trap is the 2x4 and their belly is supported by the 2 inches and the feet are on the ground not inside the jaw area ( which would create a blocking of the trap closing tight)

and if they go OFF the spray is on the 2x4..... save those they are always good to take to the conventions and sneak into someone's firewood pile so they become the most UN-popular pit stop. sick
Posted By: drasselt

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Northof50
Guys up north use the same methods for Ditch lice that drive down the trapping trails. They take some of Barnes Magic Marten and smear it on a overhanging spruce bough, so when the ditch lice rub by it their FANCY snowmobile jacket is marked. When those boys walk in to have a drink in the bar heads turn...and they get turfed out.
Ditch lice are snowmobilers in the wrong spot
In the old days Terry Barnes use to dye his Marten magic blue


Good One. Dirt would probably like this too!
Posted By: countrygun

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/22/19 03:58 PM

So let me get this straight. The 2x4 is laying flat, 2 tall 4 wide? 3- 4 inches in front of pan, skunk crawls over and is set up for head catch?
Posted By: MNRATMAN

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/24/19 12:43 AM

I'd love to see how you put those dandy stinkers up?
Got a good outlet or are you shipping to FHA?
Posted By: countrygun

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/24/19 02:48 AM

liquid gold man, liquid gold. lol
Posted By: Northof50

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/24/19 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by countrygun
So let me get this straight. The 2x4 is laying flat, 2 tall 4 wide? 3- 4 inches in front of pan, skunk crawls over and is set up for head catch?

and the chin hits the pan ...and it's history.

If you cool the skinned skunk the flesh comes off quite easy.
American sable at it's finest.
Posted By: beartooth trapr

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/24/19 04:36 AM

Very good
Posted By: MNCedar

Re: MN Coyote and Skunk Line Pics... - 11/24/19 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by MNRATMAN
I'd love to see how you put those dandy stinkers up?
Got a good outlet or are you shipping to FHA?


And here I thought all the NAFA disciples disbanded?
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