GFW and FHA and former NAFA Wild Fur

GFW recently announced they have ex NAFA Dave Bewick hired in Canada and now FHA has just posted on their website they have Winnipeg NAFA facility + some key staff. That place handled western Canadian fur including those top quality yotes.

Be interesting now to see what happens with Stoughton and staff, unless I missed something, between FHA and GFW.

Good Move for FHA.
I heard that place has a trap sales department?

Maybe GFW should buy the NAFA name.

Maybe GFW should buy the NAFA name.


Who would want a name like that after what they just pulled? Be a black eye to the rat wagon gang.

Yup trap sales to continue according to the release.

Edit - press release says trap supplies will be under its Trans Canada Trapline Store which is the same one they have in North Bay.

That would be like Fword bringing back the Edsel moniker.

Well actually the trap sales were run by Mary S as a service to the trappers and the sales proceeds went to the Manitoba Trappers Association .before this
It is good news that Darcy will be grading western coyotes.
Seeing that 1/2 the coyotes bought from one buyer are dressed in Winnipeg makes a good move.

am i wrong to look at it as "look at all the extra baggage the wild fur market just dropped"??

I feel you are wrong. If you look at $'s numbers, Wild fur was the extra baggage. NAFA just gave out too much money. It happened to be to the mink ranchers. Wild fur is a drop in a bucket compared to ranch fur. There were more ranch mink than all the wild species combined and they averaged way more. I know some think wild fur will sky rocket now that the ranch mink are knocked back in number. I feel there will be country buyer that get out of the game and also manufactures that used both wild fur and ranch. I can not see how anything good can come of NAFA shutting down.

thanx for your opinion.appreciate it.

I see it as the largest car dealer in the country stopping selling new cars. Is the price of used cars going up? Wild fur and ranch fur are not the same thing, just like new and used cars. The main problem with the fur market is no demand. No one is fighting to buy wild or ranch fur. The coyote market is strong, but that should fall before long. I am shocked it has stayed strong this long. People can live with out fur. Someone will pick up the slack, but that won't make a demand.

Yep..Rumor on the street is the coyote market tanked already...

Some of the traveling buyers up here have not heard that. I hear of coyotes on the round going for up to $100. As I said I am shocked it lasted this long.

Finally a person that understands what happened.

Baggage? Look at what broke them. It wasn't wild fur.

To add fuel to the rumor mill, I understand that Groenewold's hired one of the former NAFA auctioneer's. Could we see another auction being birthed??

Why would Groenwald want to get into the auction business. Seems to me it would be more headache and less profitable than his current set up.

Little chance of losing their own money if consigned compared to buying it themselves and trying to turn a profit?

It is all on the edge of what will happened. For the time of the year this is taken place dose not give many places to work out what they will do mainly. If it would of happened in June or around that time then we all know more what will happened with the other places. ll we can do is ride it out for how I see it. I know we will feel it one way or another for what happened with NAFA. Just like we did when they did a job on the coon market and see how that turn out.

You are EXACTLY correct. NAFA sold out to the canadian mink assn. in 1992. How much effort do you think mink ranchers are going to support wild fur? NONE. But they sure as heck didn't have any problem chunking multi millions into more and more ranch mink.Take a look at who all "retired" at nafa in the last two years. That tells the story.
Now if you think the demise of mink are going to be a boom for wild fur think again. Millions upon millions of mink skins are in the pipeline and it will take years (if ever) to clean up the mess the mink industry created. However I believe we will see a slight improvement in moving wild fur.Lets hope so.
Based on what i read in FFG I think we should all sell our fur to Gary Schroeder. Not sure what that forecast is all about.
Sorry! Gary is a friend but ???

I am trying to figure out how an auction house, did a job on the coon market. Did they sell them to the highest bidder? They should have held out for more than market value?

Did I miss something didn’t NAFA just burn and destroy all those useless stale coon hides. Surely they didn’t let them go for .50- $3.00. Surely there aren’t millions of worthless coon dried and stored. I thought they were worthless why would you hold on to worthless fur?

I heard they ground up them greasy worthless coonhides and fed them to the ranch mink to fatten them up.

Just go fish

Sorry, wrong thread. Don't know how I pulled that off

Back in around 2008 and 2012 they did not had there bottom price on coon and let it go for what ever they could get for them. When back in the late 1990's when they could not get there bottom price on the coon they pull them all and then had got the price they wanted. I know had fur up there then and they sent out a notice of what they did and why they did it . That is how they did in the coon market from between 2008 and 2012.For not have there bottom price then . How some forgot that.

Are you related to coonman 220?

bully bully bully----

Like I said they should have held out for above market value. The bottom line is demand drive the fur market. If there is little demand there is little market. I had coon up at NAFA at that time too. I can't remember a big crash. I do remember The May of 13 sale where I averaged more than I ever got for a coon.

Nope!

That would be a bad move.

Buy their equipment and staff at wholesale and kick their name in the river to be lost for all time!

My main concern is for FHA to be able to get buyers to come to N. America to buy wild fur. Before, the Chinese came for the ranch fur. Now there will be none. Time will tell I guess. LLL

Yes they do-its Manitoba Trappers Association stuff they sell

"As well, this new Western Canadian Operation will operate a FHA Trans Canada Trap line Supply Store in an
effort to further service the trappers in the west."

I think this will all work out well for the wild fur market.

"Fur Harvesters Auction Inc. is pleased to announce that we have taken over NAFA`s former Western Canada
Wild Fur Operations building at 567 Henry Avenue, Winnipeg, Manitoba"

I hope this part means they leased it or got it real cheap in the NAFA PT room with all the NAFA's shippers fur.

Can a private individual have a trap supply company in Canada? Doesn't anyone sell traps up there?

coydog2 may be coonman220's Dyslexic twin brother !!

They were educated in the same one-room Iowa prairie school house !!

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If you look through the creditors own money in Manitoba @ about 56k is the unpaid leasee
If FHA did not get it GWF was circling the wagon as well as a few other fur buyers

the PT room was with those down east dingbats
Mary S and the coyote grader retained will really help keep the western coyotes flowing through the system.

Long as they don't get overextended. I wouldn't bet the farm on the coyote market. Fashion is fickle.

Mary is still selling traps and snares as the doors are still open. NAFA lease goes to Saturday and FHA takes over on the 1 DEC
There will be a change over and eventually the FHA will have a complement of supplies,
Traps will be available at the Thompson Fur Tables if they don't all go on THE BLACK FRIDAY SALE.

May I ask what school I had went to in Iowa? I like to know it is the first for me to hear this