Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture

I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?

Notice how Trump praises the Humane Society representative.

Told ya that man ain't on our side.

Jim

I posted this on here last month. Here's the summary.

"Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture Act or the PACT Act

This bill revises and expands criminal provisions with respect to animal crushing.

It retains existing criminal offenses that prohibit knowingly creating or distributing an animal crush video using interstate commerce. The bill also adds a new provision to criminalize an intentional act of animal crushing. A violator is subject to criminal penalties—a fine, a prison term of up to seven years, or both.

It provides additional exceptions for conduct, or a video of conduct, including conduct that is (1) medical or scientific research, (2) necessary to protect the life or property of a person, (3) performed as part of euthanizing an animal, or (4) unintentional."

The full text is here.

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2019/10/22/house-section/article/H8355-1

"PREVENTING ANIMAL CRUELTY AND TORTURE ACT

Mr. DEUTCH. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the
bill (H.R. 724) to revise section 48 of title 18, United States Code,
and for other purposes, as amended.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The text of the bill is as follows:

H.R. 724

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Preventing Animal Cruelty
and Torture Act'' or the ``PACT Act''.

SEC. 2. REVISION OF SECTION 48.

(a) In General.--Section 48 of title 18, United States
Code, is amended to read as follows:

``Sec. 48. Animal crushing

``(a) Offenses.--
``(1) Crushing.--It shall be unlawful for any person to
purposely engage in animal crushing in or affecting
interstate or foreign commerce or within the special maritime
and territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
``(2) Creation of animal crush videos.--It shall be
unlawful for any person to knowingly create an animal crush
video, if--
``(A) the person intends or has reason to know that the
animal crush video will be distributed in, or using a means
or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce; or
``(B) the animal crush video is distributed in, or using a
means or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce.
``(3) Distribution of animal crush videos.--It shall be
unlawful for any person to knowingly sell, market, advertise,
exchange, or distribute an animal crush video in, or using a
means or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce.
``(b) Extraterritorial Application.--This section applies
to the knowing sale, marketing, advertising, exchange,
distribution, or creation of an animal crush video outside of
the United States, if--
``(1) the person engaging in such conduct intends or has
reason to know that the animal crush video will be
transported into the United States or its territories or
possessions; or
``(2) the animal crush video is transported into the United
States or its territories or possessions.
``(c) Penalties.--Whoever violates this section shall be
fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than 7 years,
or both.
``(d) Exceptions.--
``(1) In general.--This section does not apply with regard
to any conduct, or a visual depiction of that conduct, that
is--
``(A) a customary and normal veterinary, agricultural
husbandry, or other animal management practice;
``(B) the slaughter of animals for food;
``(C) hunting, trapping, fishing, a sporting activity not
otherwise prohibited by Federal law, predator control, or
pest control;
``(D) medical or scientific research;
``(E) necessary to protect the life or property of a
person; or
``(F) performed as part of euthanizing an animal.
``(2) Good-faith distribution.--This section does not apply
to the good-faith distribution of an animal crush video to--
``(A) a law enforcement agency; or
``(B) a third party for the sole purpose of analysis to
determine if referral to a law enforcement agency is
appropriate.
``(3) Unintentional conduct.--This section does not apply
to unintentional conduct that injures or kills an animal.
``(4) Consistency with rfra.--This section shall be
enforced in a manner that is consistent with section 3 of the
Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (42 U.S.C. 2000bb-
1).
``(e) No Preemption.--Nothing in this section shall be
construed to preempt the law of any State or local
subdivision thereof to protect animals.
``(f) Definitions.--In this section--
``(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles,
or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned,
suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily
injury (as defined in section 1365 and including conduct
that, if committed against a person and in the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
would violate section 2241 or 2242);
``(2) the term `animal crush video' means any photograph,
motion-picture film, video or digital recording, or
electronic image that--
``(A) depicts animal crushing; and
``(B) is obscene; and
``(3) the term `euthanizing an animal' means the humane
destruction of an animal accomplished by a method that--
``(A) produces rapid unconsciousness and subsequent death
without evidence of pain or distress; or
``(B) uses anesthesia produced by an agent that causes
painless loss of consciousness and subsequent death.''.
(b) Technical and Conforming Amendment.--The table of
sections for chapter 3 of title 18, United States Code, is
amended by striking the item relating to section 48 and
inserting the following:

``48. Animal crushing.''.

SEC. 3. DETERMINATION OF BUDGETARY EFFECTS.

The budgetary effects of this Act, and the amendments made
by this Act, for the purpose of complying with the Statutory
Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2010, shall be determined by reference
to the latest statement titled ``Budgetary Effects of PAYGO
Legislation'' for this Act, submitted for printing in the
Congressional Record by the Chairman of the House Budget
Committee, provided that such statement has been submitted
prior to the vote on passage."

There's an exclusion for trapping.

Keith

I see that. Thanks, Keith.

Jim

Why is it what certain people do with gerbils not included in this law?

You see it says in plain language that trapping is excluded from this law but you say Trump is not on our side...anything to bash the POTUS...

I quit watching when he praised the HSUS representative.

Jim

are people still doing the gerbil thing? I thought that faded away years ago

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Boy... I can see this:


Used to undermine this:

Like most liberals, James doesn't care about the facts as long as he gets to bash the bad orange man.

It's only a matter of time and the wait will be a short one.

While the specifics of the bill as passed do not directly effect us I, too, am leery of any "animal cruelty" legislation being a trojan horse to use against us. It's my understanding this specific issue came about as a result of some sort of perversion where twisted individuals get their jollies watching videos of women in heels crushing things to include small animals. It became a federal issue as many of these videos were distributed via mail and/or Internet across state lines, aka "interstate commerce".

What troubles me though is why the feds have to weigh in on this issue? Why isn't perversion illegal at the state level? What kind of sick society allows perversion of this sort to even exist?

Did you pull that "fact" out of your crystal ball or somewhere else Cliff Claven?

HE'S the "GOOD ORANGE MAN" every month when I do my retirement fund recap!!!

It takes a little thought to see what will be tried. I guess you'll just have to wait to see it happen, numbn--oops, lugnut

i could see that law changing to eliminate hunting and trapping if the house , senate and potus moves further left

I also don't understand a need for a new law. You would think that women killing animals with high heels already fits the description of current animal cruelty laws. The thing about video today is anybody with a cell phone can direct and video some heinous stuff. just like illegal drugs a new law wont help

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What’s the issue with praising someone with good intentions?

You did it for 8 years.

It will be against the law to bring video of an animal being tortured into the country. That’s gonna be a problem for PETA.

(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles,
or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned,
suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily
injury (as defined in section 1365 and including conduct
that, if committed against a person and in the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
would violate section 2241 or 2242)


These are not good words for us.

It's a slippery slope and no doubt next time we get a muslim/anti American congress and president this law will be used to move the needle
further to the left, same as they weaponized the patriot act to destroy political opponents for 8 years.

Just wait and see what he will do to undermine us if he wins a second term and no longer needs his base. He instinctively steers towards anything that provides publicity and adoration. It does matter who adores him--it's what drives his "decisions".

Don't like it and feel it will be twisted around to bite us.

LOL

Man, Trump can't pull the wool over you guys eyes. Lol

Y'all should look up your states animal cruelty laws, the way most are written up will scare ya if this one does.

For example, Pa. Has a line...it is a criminal act to ill-treat an animal.
Now who decides what ill-treat is?

Purposely put in hunting and trapping is exempt should help if some wire-haired liberal starts whining.

don't you owe him an apology?

why yes, yes you do.

There's a strong push to equate pets with human babies. The leftist elite pushes this agenda to help control the birth rate. Many Americans and people in other countries too, even including China ,fill the whole in their lives from not having children with animals.

Keith

“Unintentional Conduct.”

I know of no one that intentionally botches a dispatch so they would have to repeat the method on the same animal. Even the lawyers on here could sell that.

Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends.

Really? They made an exception especially for us.

trappers enjoy videos of crushing animals? not the ones I know.

how can anyone be against this legislation (can't believe it's NEEDED, but Satan has free reign here)

[quote=Blaine County](1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles,
or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned,
suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily
injury (as defined in section 1365 and including conduct
that, if committed against a person and in the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
would violate section 2241 or 2242)


These are not good words for us.[/quotell




Nah-lug says ya gotta have a crystal ball iffin' ya figger them words 'll be a problem for us.

The War on Animal Abuser's. They will now establish a special task force called "Animal force". Cost to the tax payer's 5.6 billion. Anybody with political connection's welcome to apply for employment in the new "Animal Force".

Just joking maybe.

According to James, Trump ain't on our side because he signed it so I figured that means none of our Senators or Representatives are on our side either. Using James's reasoning.
As for my opinion I think all animal cruelty laws are a joke. As long as it remains legal to kill the unborn I myself will not support any form of animal welfare legislation.

So outside of the exception for trappers you are ok with setting the neighbor’s barking dog on fire or throwing it overboard with a rock on its leash?

Or tying a Walmart bag over its head? lol

This should not be any of the Federal Government's concern.

Just more over reach so they can confiscate more tax dollars. and empower themselves.

Keithc is spot on . Just watch some of the commercials that run humanizing animals.

Learn to use the quote feature ya goon. It's really not that difficult.

Too difficult for ya, numb?

Lol

Bigger problems than this if left gets control again.

I promise this will be last of our worries!

Its going to be against the law for Peta to go into farms and torture animals while recording it.

The part I don't like is this:

(d) Exceptions.—

(4) CONSISTENCY WITH RFRA.—This section shall be enforced in a manner that is consistent with section 3 of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (42 U.S.C. 2000bb–1).

So... if someone claims they made an animal crush video for "Allah", it's perfectly fine??

Just wait until they are kicking in your front door over a mouse video. LMAO

What a bunch of BS. So much for draining that swamp.More like empowering the swamp even more.