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Posted By: white17

Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:32 PM

Check this out !!

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/leg...9kcAQ4sqBv3fotWKJYlvmmFBzs0wfCEerUEo9e4g
Posted By: virgil1972

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:37 PM

Holy cow
Posted By: Sharon

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:46 PM

Plain to see the directions that will go.....
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:47 PM

Here it is:

"SENATE BILL NO. 64
Offered January 8, 2020
Prefiled November 21, 2019
A BILL to amend and reenact § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.
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Patron-- Lucas
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Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.

A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice."

Keith
Posted By: Catch22

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:48 PM

What the heck!!!
Posted By: FairbanksLS

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:50 PM


A tyrannical government is coming to a state near you soon. The bills sponsor should be reminded what country it lives in.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 06:59 PM

well that certainly seems constitutional
Posted By: Woodsloafer72

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 07:31 PM

So Virginia will no longer have a National Gaurd? Or LE? I didn't see any exceptions written into it.
Posted By: rex123

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 07:51 PM

I am a little slow so does this mean if you build a flint lock or an AR you are some kind of terroist?
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 07:56 PM

According to the liberal pukes trying to take over our great nation...YES!
Posted By: HobbieTrapper

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 08:06 PM

Burn Richmond burn!

Better make an example out of this state or it’s going to spread.
Posted By: rex123

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 08:41 PM

So with this law in place how are you supposed to introduce young people to shooting or hunting?
Posted By: virgil1972

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 08:43 PM

I think that's the point
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by rex123
So with this law in place how are you supposed to introduce young people to shooting or hunting?


I guess it's okay if you don't intend to use such as an intention to do what is in bold print. Then one has to ask oneself what the purpose of the 2nd amendment was.

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder
Posted By: FairbanksLS

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 08:58 PM

The law is an effort to hinder the ability of Patriots to spill the blood of the elected representatives of a tyrannical government.

More unconstitutional laws to follow.
Posted By: brianmall

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 09:16 PM

I think a sheriff there has already refused to carry any of this out?

Won't be long before it ends up in court.
Posted By: brianmall

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 09:18 PM

This is why our electoral is so important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you imagine if we elected president off popular vote? States like this and California would be pushing this nonsense down everyone's throats!!!!!!
Posted By: FairbanksLS

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 09:23 PM

Everybody is against domestic terrorism and that is a label that will be placed upon anyone who stands against an emerging tyrannical government.
Posted By: waggler

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 09:27 PM

Ya think maybe there might be a couple of constitution issues with this proposed legislation?
What kind of people dream this stuff up?
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by waggler
Ya think maybe there might be a couple of constitution issues with this proposed legislation?
What kind of people dream this stuff up?


This type of legislation comes exclusively from progressive, liberal democrats.

Keith
Posted By: Boco

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 10:49 PM

Sounds like they are trying to crack down on terrorists/terrorism.
I think the vast majority of people would support laws against terrorists,domestic or otherwise.
Posted By: Donnersurvivor

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
Sounds like they are trying to crack down on terrorists/terrorism.


They are creating "Terrorist" to crack down on...
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by waggler
Ya think maybe there might be a couple of constitution issues with this proposed legislation?
What kind of people dream this stuff up?



The kind of people that care not a wit about your constitutional rights. Progressives.
Posted By: Trapset

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 11:22 PM

The whole thing is set up for selective enforcement. Most call for the "intent" to be determined. If they agree with what your marching armed for in #3 your not doing so with the "intent" to intimidate. If they don't agree with your cause, I'm sure your intending to intimidate.

Selective enforcement is already a huge problem IMO.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/29/19 11:42 PM

I don't understand. When these idiots are sworn into their office the oath is to uphold the constitution. They they come up with this BS. Why do they not get arched of to a prison or at least loose their position because they are breaking the oath of their office. Yet they get away with it left, left and center.
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: Virginia shooters: - 11/30/19 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Boco
Sounds like they are trying to crack down on terrorists/terrorism.
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You would be grossly mistaken. These people were recently elected by leftists who live in the vast, ever increasing in population, area surrounding Washington DC and Richmond (the Capital of Virginia). These people want ALL of our guns to prevent us from revolting against those who want to erase the Constitution. They do not care one wit about the citizenry. They only care about power.
They are overplaying their hand however. The Democrats only have a slim margin in the State Senate at 21-19. The Democrats have a 55-45 majority in the House of Delegates.
I seriously doubt that all 21 Democrat Senators will vote for this legislation. It would be political suicide for the next election.
I hope that they continue to push forward such unconstitutional legislative proposals. It will result in a massive awakening of people who believe in the constitution who did not show up at the polls in the 2019 election.
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