Wellness check on James?

After OSU lost to Clemson has anybody seen him on here? Hope he's OK!

He has never been OK . Why should he start now

LOL, Nice Scuba!

You root for LSU or OSU?

Might be campaigning for Bernie?

I am sure he is probably just fine. Just sitting back and analyzing the situation and seeing who has what to say. I don't agree with him on some stuff but can respect his opinion. Usually, er probably... maybe .

Ha!

Unfortunately,,, OSU. That's my Alma Mater. The wife picked LSU, her Alma Mater. Needless to say, I'll be eating at McDonalds for the next few days.

Clemson, who can't get any respect due to their weak conference, beat Ohio State fair and square in a very competitive game. They still can't get any recognition and Ohio State is whining, especially the coach. The players knew they had been beat and their comments were pretty good. I hope the Tigers/Tigers game is as competitive.

He could not hold his water. He posted on another thread crying about the officiating. Here is his post quoted below, the bold part is what he had to say:

I'm not a football fan, and even I know that wasn't "fair and square". I didn't watch the game, and I'm sure there are plenty of things OSU could have/should have done better. But the fact Ohio State was screwwed out of at least 6 points ( most likely 7) is indisputable to anyone without bias. It really should be a big deal to everyone interested in college football, you simply can NOT have to separate rules for what constitutes a catch, yet that's exactly the way it was officiated. As a non sport fan, it's weird to me that it seems most fans are okay with things like this as long as it benefits their team, or at least goes against a team they want to lose. I would think everyone would want clear and concise rules, because next time it could be their team on the losing end.

The fact that people think The OSU was screwed should think back to the year TCU was snubbed for The OSU! I’m a Kansas State Fan and if you think your not getting a fair shake try being a non blue blood in NCAA lol! The OSU has leapfrogged many a smaller school for their shot so carry on get better for next year. Oh and yes we beat Oklahoma too.

Like I said, I'm not a sport fan so I don't know what you're referring to. But it seems maybe you're comparing apples and oranges? It would seem to me that the four teams that get picked is subjective. I'm talking about a blatant problem with the rules. It should never have been allowed to happen, and it certainly should never happen again. The rules need fixed so there is one clear definition of a catch. If that same catch happened, and instead of dropping the ball the carrier steps out of bounds, it would have been called a catch and it wouldn't even be questioned. That's a problem, and it should be a problem for everyone.

I heard he was stumping for mayor pete.

“Any Democrat with a pulse.”

y'all need a hobby

had one-market fell out.everybody can twerk now.

I watched the entire game and was hoping for a OSU win because they are Big Ten.

I thought the officiating was pretty consistent for each team. Both teams were evenly matched, IMO. Either team could have won.

The match up between LSU and Clemson should help to dispel any doubts one way or the other. If LSU trounces Clemson the way they did Oklahoma, they definitely deserve to be called the number one team in the nation. On the other hand, if Clemson beats LSU, that could be proof that LSU probably wouldn't have beaten OSU either. We shall see.

I think he is OK. Got a private message from him this morning.

Mac

bummer,what a way to start the day.

Trapper7, I think you are exactly right. The call all OSU fans are torn up about is the no-catch/no-fumble call. It was called a catch and fumble on the field and overturned on review. Calls are not overturned on review unless there is indisputable evidence. Without indisputable evidence the outcome is "the call on the field stands." The folks that criticize football rules on what constitutes a catch and the requirement for "a football move" I don't disagree with at all. Only the refs seem to know what is a catch and what is not and that's not good for the game.

How many steps does a receiver need to take after catching the ball before it's considered a reception? The NCCAA had better decide that question.

That Clemson player took three steps, before he coughed-up the ball. He made three steps trying to evade the OSU tackler, who stripped the ball from his hands.

The call on the field was a reception, fumble, and touchdown. That call was only supposed to be reversed for indisputable evidence. Those refs then said it's indisputable that it wasn't a catch!

How can you look at the videotapes in either real-time or slow-motion and say that's not a catch?

On the whole though, I'm having a good day. Am caught up on my MFA work, and ready to go to Denver on Friday.

Jim

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, and I do not claim to be a rules expert by any means, but I thought that in order for it to be a catch, he had to have control of the ball. I thought in that play, the replay showed the ball was still moving throughout those three steps and not firmly controlled, therefore the call was reversed and it was called an incomplete pass since he never had control. I don't think it would matter if it was one step or 20 steps if he was still bobbling the ball the whole time.

Dang yotetrapper30, there you go citing facts, we don't want no darn facts here, just accept that OSU had the game stolen by the refs.

Go Tigers!

You have to have control of the ball.

It looked to me like he had control of the ball in his two hands. You can see the defender's hand pry it loose.

I'd like to see the replay again though.

OSU certainly had other chances to win that game, and blew those chances by themselves.

I could say there's always next year, but we'll lose most of our best players to the NFL.

However, there are more important things than football.

Jim

If the Clemson player had taken three steps in bounds, gone out of bounds, and then the defender had pried the ball loose, do you really think they would have called that pass incomplete?

Jim

In slow motion it looked like a catch to me, but watching the replays in real time it didn't look like he ever controlled it.

Two darn good teams, it's a shame one of them had to lose that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ97OWxvcHo

My thoughts are he had control and took 3 steps.

Brother, your team got robbed on that play. I am no fan of An Ohio State University, but I do feel your pain. I have lost count on how many times that the The Michigan State University football and basketball teams have been similarly robbed in my lifetime.
Nevertheless, I still bask in the glory of beating Michigan three times in one season in basketball last year. My only regret was their failure to move further in the NCAA tournament so that we could have beaten them a forth time!

You seriously need to get your eyes checked if you saw the ball move. He caught it and never once did he regrip it or bobble it. I have seen the replay 20 times or so on ESPN and the local news stations. The ball never moved. All the analysts said it never moved. They said it was ruled incomplete because he didn't make a football move. If taking 3 steps while trying to break the tackle isn't a football move, what is?

It was a horrible call but it is over. Nothing can be done. Just like how New Orleans got shafted in the NFL playoffs last year. Forget it and move on.

They said on the field it was a completed pass and fumble. Replay official overturned it.

James Who?

I'm a Tennessee fan and watch mainly SEC games but I have to agree that that was a horrible reversal, it's definitely not indisputable evidence. Nonetheless Ohio State shouldn't have settled for so many field goals in the first half and that call wouldn't have mattered as much. From watching the game I truly believe OSU is the better team and won in every aspect except the one that counts

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1211136453247414272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1211137879218380800&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Fcollege-football%2Fnews%2Fbig-ten-supervisor-of-officials-fumble-return-for-td-should-have-stood-in-ohio-state-clemson-game%2F

The more I think about it I'm becoming convinced that the Ohio State fans are just a bunch of freaking whiners. You don't hear Clemson complaining about the officiating!

I also saw the video and thought it was a catch and fumble, as called on the field. However, that was not the conclusion of the replay officials and they had a clear view of every important aspect of the play and overturned the call. Calls are not overturned without "indisputable evidence." I don't know what that evidence was or how 3 steps is not a "football move." It is just another example that only the officiating staff knows the definition of a "football move."

In my mind the game was not won or lost based on one call because no one knows how the other team would have reacted. This game was won by Clemson holding OSU to field goals in the red zone.

Randy, of course the ball "moved". Impossible not to one the guys hands that were holding the ball rock solid were moving lol. Look liked a bad reversal to me.

To catch a ball means that a player:
Secures control of a live ball in flight with his hands or arms before the ball touches the ground, and
Touches the ground in bounds with any part of his body, and then
Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e. long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc., and
Satisfies paragraphs b, c and d below.

In real time the receiver who was just trying to maintain control of that football ; never had control long enough or well enough to do any of the second part. Solid judgement call by replay. Good play by defender.

OSU has no room to talk about officiating after that 2003 game against Miami for the National Championship at the end of the 02 season.

I'm going to have to disagree with you dirt.

I flat out believe it was a catch, the line judge that was standing not less than a few yards away thought it was a catch and even so, I don't believe the replay shows enough proof to overturn the call on the field.