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Posted By: proratman
Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 10:14 PM
Just received the February issue of F-F-G. That is one of the best covers ever to be printed in the long history of the magazine.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 10:31 PM
Just received the February issue of F-F-G. That is one of the best covers ever to be printed in the long history of the magazine.
Just so long as it's
NOT a photo of Hal Sullivan on the cover !!!!!
w
Posted By: traphound
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 10:33 PM
yes great cover
Posted By: Hodagtrapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 10:36 PM
Bent's Fort Arrival by David Wright.
Very nce artwork indeed!
Chris
Yes a nice look cover.
**One thing that politicians are afraid of is, your Vote**
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 10:45 PM
i'm pretty sure the covers are 90 percent of the reason i still get it.
Posted By: BigSky
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:01 PM
I especially like the covers from the 60's and 70's with Chuck Ripper artwork my favorite.
Posted By: Cathouse Jim
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:07 PM
That is a nice cover picture!
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:10 PM
Awesome picture
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:45 PM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:49 PM
Bent's Fort Arrival by David Wright.
Very nce artwork indeed!
Chris
Amazing
Posted By: Pike River
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:52 PM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
My 12 year old seriously sincerely asked the same thing. "Dad, why is he wearing a kittie hat?"
Still a great cover.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/13/20 11:59 PM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
My 12 year old seriously sincerely asked the same thing. "Dad, why is he wearing a kittie hat?"
Still a great cover.
Ha! Thats funny!
Posted By: Hodagtrapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:00 AM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
At least it is not full blown pink!
Chris
Posted By: Sharon
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:44 AM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
Boco, Boco......
Sigh.....shakes head, rolls eyes.....
Posted By: Lugnut
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:47 AM
Posted By: gryhkl
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:00 AM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
Maybe it's a fur-side-in pelt with the legs sown shut?
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:01 AM
Hahaha Sharon!
Posted By: Nessmuck
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:12 AM
I might have to renew......haven’t got FFG in years
Posted By: BigBob
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:14 AM
I got tired of them screwing up and losing my checks so I quit sending them.
Posted By: kyron4
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:25 AM
Funny, when I pulled it out of the mail box I thought the same thing. I even sent a pic to a buddy as we were just talking about hooping beaver pelts that day. FFG is the best all around outdoorsman's magazine; no fluff or BS, minimal ads, great articles. I used to get outdoor life and fields and streams decades ago, but now it's a over the top, ad filled (booze and tobacco) magazine made for 20 something hipsters with designer camo and jacked on energy drinks. Picked one up a few years back in a doctor office, one article title was " pimp my tree stand " . Sad
Posted By: Law Dog
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:31 AM
Fantastic work I struggle with stick people drawings myself.
Posted By: beaverpeeler
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 06:45 AM
Love the pic but the ugly scab for me was the hat. I reacted just like Boco.
Love the pic but the ugly scab for me was the hat. I reacted just like Boco.
im with you,that hat ruins the pic
Posted By: Catch22
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:16 AM
Love the pic but the ugly scab for me was the hat. I reacted just like Boco.
im with you,that hat ruins the pic
me too
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:03 AM
i want one
My FFG subscription was originally started in 1976 by then 7th grade science teacher, trapping mentor Benny Ray Lisenbee, He was also a member of the big brother program for troubled youth. I had troubles. I continue that subscription unbroken ever, to this day.
Posted By: kyron4
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:57 AM
Hat must have been a real thing, found this picture of what I assume to be a reenactor.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 11:00 AM
wore out squaw bra recycled for a hat.
Posted By: Squash
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:10 PM
I didn't know that the fur traders wore yuppie bunny ear hats.
Yeah, if it were pink he could go to the me-too rallies in DC.
Posted By: gryhkl
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:20 PM
Hat must have been a real thing, found this picture of what I assume to be a reenactor.
Well there ya go! Maybe the artist knew more than most were giving him credit for knowing.
I think the artwork is great.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:32 PM
Alien--take me to your leader.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 12:57 PM
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:00 PM
hat--don't remember a time that my house didn't have ffg and pa game news by the crapper.
both still come in my dads name even though he passed 3 yrs ago.like the little reminder of where i came from.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:29 PM
hat--don't remember a time that my house didn't have ffg and pa game news by the crapper.
both still come in my dads name even though he passed 3 yrs ago.like the little reminder of where i came from.
Thats a cool honor thing pcr
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 01:36 PM
helps his address became my address when we moved in to take care of mom.
Posted By: grayfox54
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 02:52 PM
Why would a mountain man wear a condom on his head?
Posted By: lcd
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 03:07 PM
Hat must have been a real thing, found this picture of what I assume to be a reenactor.
IT IS FOR SURE THE REAL THING. IF YOU CAN FIND SOME ART WORK THAT A. J. MILLER DID AT THE 1837 ROCKY MOUNTAIN RENDEZVOUS YOU WILL FIND MANY EXAMPLES OF THIS TYPE OF HAT. A. J. MILLER WAS BROUGHT ALONG TO RECORD THE EVENTS OF THE HUNTING TRIP THAT WILLIAM STEWART TOOK WITH THE FUR TRADE CARAVAN THAT YEAR. STEWART MADE SEVERAL SUCH TRIPS WEST WITH THE MOUNTAIN MEN. THIS IS THE ONLY EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNT IN PICTURES OF AN ACTUAL RENDEZVOUS. DAVID WRIGHT, WHO PAINTED THE FF&G COVER IS PROBABLY THE BEST ARTIST THAT WE HAVE THAT DOES ACCURATE PAINTING'S OF THE PIONEER ERA IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
Posted By: Law Dog
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 03:07 PM
The first Batman prototype hat so it fits over the pointy ears. I think in those days it was function over fashion. LOL
Posted By: Minker
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 03:15 PM
I'd a wrapped a raw skunk hide around my head before i wore that !
Posted By: Cathouse Jim
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 03:21 PM
I'd a wrapped a raw skunk hide around my head before i wore that !
That's pretty funny, but I have seen some of these guys post pictures on here of them wearing crocs and jorts - I would take the hat any day over those.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 03:50 PM
I'd a wrapped a raw skunk hide around my head before i wore that !
That's pretty funny, but I have seen some of these guys post pictures on here of them wearing crocs and jorts - I would take the hat any day over those.
Me too!
Posted By: tomahawker
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 03:55 PM
The hat is period accurate. Fact is Mountain Men didn’t really look like what most think. Most were clean shaven and wore what they had and function over fashion. Much like the Indians, who did not walk around every day with a warbonnet and fancy beaded moccasins on. Take the knife in his belt- sure fire way to lose your knife. In a time and place where it was needed most and hard to replace 1000 miles from nowhere. Should be slit in the sheath for belt to run through.
Posted By: tomahawker
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:04 PM
Posted By: k snow
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:09 PM
Good link tomahawker. Nowhere in the historical record do we see full hide hats (with faces and legs) on any trappers. By far the most common is a light colored felt wide brimmed hat.
The eared hats/hoods show up in Miller's p[paintings, not many of his original sketches, but some.
That FFG cover is actually one of the more accurate paintings of a western trapper that I have seen. To get nit picky, from my perspective, the belt buckle should be more to the side and the knife should be in the back. The sheath should be secured with w tie of some sort around the belt and sheath. Very few of the sheaths in Miller's works have slits, some do but most do not.
Posted By: Actor
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:10 PM
When I saw the cover, my first thought was that Matthew McConaughey had been the model for the painting.
Garry-
Posted By: Sharon
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:10 PM
The hat is period accurate. Fact is Mountain Men didn’t really look like what most think. Most were clean shaven and wore what they had and function over fashion. Much like the Indians, who did not walk around every day with a warbonnet and fancy beaded moccasins on. Take the knife in his belt- sure fire way to lose your knife. In a time and place where it was needed most and hard to replace 1000 miles from nowhere. Should be slit in the sheath for belt to run through.
Yes. When Ive had to research for correct life living for the era on a commission piece, that is exactly the dress and grooming described. Makes sense , too, when real life living was explained .
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:16 PM
I don't know about the hooped beaver being carried around either.
But overall its an Amazing piece of Artwork!!!
Posted By: Muskrat
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:17 PM
Excellent link sir!
The cover does indeed rule.
Posted By: beaverpeeler
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 04:47 PM
Well, I guess I have to look differently now at all the little pre and post pubescent reenactors at the mall!
Posted By: BernieB.
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 06:17 PM
Pretty good period depiction of the mountain man other than the chain on the trap and the knife. When the mountain men arrived at the rendezvous or the forts to trade, their beaver were dried, folded and packed tightly in bundles, but we'll forgive that since they were hooped to dry.
I get a little tired of the photos of the old grizzled mountain men since the vast majority of them went to the mountains in their teens and 20s and few were still there by the time their hair turned gray.
That guy kinda looks like that coon creek outdoors guy on YouTube. Wearing the Easter bunny costume and all!
Posted By: proratman
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 06:58 PM
If we all get together and start wearing that hat, maybe we could start a new trend.
Posted By: k snow
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 07:06 PM
If we all get together and start wearing that hat, maybe we could start a new trend.
You mean revive an old one? They were quite the fad in the early 19th century among the western trappers.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 07:11 PM
If we all get together and start wearing that hat, maybe we could start a new trend.
i'm a feared someone would try an milk me.utter ly
Posted By: Muskrat
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:15 PM
Well, I guess I have to look differently now at all the little pre and post pubescent reenactors at the mall!
While Susan and I haven't transcended to the mall just yet to reenact, you might help out the those little whatever pubescent reenactors with their garb if you feel inclined to do so on your mall walks. They just might be the only quasi-positive contact the general public has with trapping today. Lord help us if a group of real trappers set up a booth in a mall to spread the good word on trapping.
We bring a beaver or two along to the rendezvous on occasion for demo purposes. At this particular event there was a line of kids all waiting to take their turn on skinning the beaver. Just before this young lady's turn a youngster about 10 years of age deftly cut out the castors and there they be on top the chunk of firewood.
I'm probably not dressed appropriately in this pic, but it's the thought that counts, eh?
Posted By: k snow
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:19 PM
Great demo, Muskrat. Your outfit looks pretty good to me. Cotton shirts and fringed buckskin pants were very common.
I agree about positive trapping exposure. That's one huge reason I do living history displays. Show the kids fur, let them feel it. Tell them why trapping is necessary.
I've had kids watch in wonder when I do something as simple as get vegetables ready for stew. They had never seen anyone slice up carrots or potatoes.
Posted By: Muskrat
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:28 PM
A good place to visit if you're in the area. We use the video you'll find if you scroll down in DVD format to begin our trapper ed class here in southwest Wisconsin.
https://museumofthemountainman.com/
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:50 PM
That was their way of "coming out of the closet".Only the gay mountain men wore that type of hat.
Posted By: wetdog
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:54 PM
That was their way of "coming out of the closet".Only the gay mountain men wore that type of hat.
So you have one?
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:57 PM
one??he owns the patent.ask Savell-he'll tell ya.
Posted By: Catch22
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 08:58 PM
Muskrat, you look like a healthy Willie Nelson lol, good on ya for teaching youngins. I quit my subscription to FFG a long while ago, Hal was a factor. That hat may be period, IDK, I wasn't there. I think it looks foolish and would not wear one. To each his or her own though.
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:05 PM
Posted By: wetdog
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:08 PM
Boco going to town
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:10 PM
LOL^^^^
Good on Ya Muskrat for promoting trapping.
Posted By: Muskrat
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:14 PM
Indeed LOL!
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:17 PM
That really makes me wonder what kind of sites wetdog peruses to find pictures like that,LOL.
Come out of the closet wetdog.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:33 PM
Wowsa!
Posted By: wetdog
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:38 PM
That really makes me wonder what kind of sites wetdog peruses to find pictures like that,LOL.
Come out of the closet wetdog.
Same site I always go to for pics
Bing, the one you can find JP on. Lol
Just type what you want to see in the search bar and it's there.
And Boco, my man card is laminated
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:40 PM
Now we know you go on gay sites wetdog-no denying it
Posted By: Catch22
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:51 PM
Now we know you go on gay sites wetdog-no denying it
You got nothing as usual Boco. Why don't you try to fix things in your own sissy Country and stop trying to come across as someone who knows what's going on here in the States. Your a heck of a trapper and have knowledge, stick to that!
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:54 PM
I'm not trapping right now so I have to crank up people like you for amusement.
Posted By: Catch22
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 09:56 PM
I'm not trapping right now so I have to crank up people like you for amusement.
Lol, that's acceptable, carry on. least your honest.
Posted By: Lugnut
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:02 PM
An honest troll...refreshing. Now if only we could get James and Grackle to fess up.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:14 PM
i've got 10 X as many traps out as Boco.
.slacker
Posted By: beaverpeeler
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:27 PM
I got a theory: the guys wearing those hats were greenhorns being initiated by the older seasoned trappers. Kind of like college freshmen having to wear beanie hats back in the 50's.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:29 PM
lost a bet i think
Posted By: walleyed
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:50 PM
I'm not trapping right now so I have to crank up people like you for amusement.
So you are taking significant nourishment from the bottle this evening !!!
w
Posted By: Cathouse Jim
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:53 PM
I got a theory: the guys wearing those hats were greenhorns being initiated by the older seasoned trappers. Kind of like college freshmen having to wear beanie hats back in the 50's.
Sounds reasonable enough to me.
Posted By: Pike River
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:53 PM
A good place to visit if you're in the area. We use the video you'll find if you scroll down in DVD format to begin our trapper ed class here in southwest Wisconsin.
https://museumofthemountainman.com/Do they still do a rendezvous outside Portage?
Posted By: Cathouse Jim
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 10:58 PM
I went to my first Mountain Man Rendezvous at the age of 12, it was held at Ft Garland Colorado, Kit Carsons old post. I have been a history buff of that era ever since.
It is a real shame that the Rendezvous are getting as scarce as they were back in the day.
Posted By: Boco
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 11:01 PM
True,this is the first year FHA cancelled the trappers convention in North Bay.
Posted By: Muskrat
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 11:12 PM
A good place to visit if you're in the area. We use the video you'll find if you scroll down in DVD format to begin our trapper ed class here in southwest Wisconsin.
https://museumofthemountainman.com/Do they still do a rendezvous outside Portage?
Not sure, but maybe just a side attraction to Canal Days.
Our favorite event is the Bloody Lake Rendezvous in South Central Wisconsin. First full weekend of May. They sent as drone up in 2017. Good camp. At 2:17 I'm out front of our camp performing domestic chores. This becomes a family reunion, as the three lodges behind me have kids and grandkids in em.
https://youtu.be/KxwbR45VWqc
Posted By: Minker
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/14/20 11:29 PM
I'm thinking that " teet " hat was a cruel joke given to a greenhorn .
I've seen it in those original drawings/paintings & always thought that .
Maybe he'd been scalped & that hat was to help cover the ugly .
I'm not trapping right now so I have to crank up people like you for amusement.
ride on boco!!!
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/15/20 01:35 PM
I'm thinking that " teet " hat was a cruel joke given to a greenhorn .
I've seen it in those original drawings/paintings & always thought that .
Maybe he'd been scalped & that hat was to help cover the ugly .
Teet Hat....LOL
Posted By: k snow
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/15/20 01:41 PM
Another name for those hats, historically, is wolf-eared caps. Some have theorized that the men wearing them are actually the hunters of the party, not the trappers. The hats allowed them to sneak closer to deer, elk, sheep, etc.
Indians used wolf skins for the same purpose. The "ears" on the hoods definitely change the silhouette of the human head.
Regardless if your opinion on their looks, they worked for their purpose at the time.
Posted By: Hodagtrapper
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/15/20 01:44 PM
That sure is a lot of canvas Muskrat at that Rendezvous! Bet that is a good time!
Chris
Posted By: beaverpeeler
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/16/20 04:50 AM
Now there's a nice mountain man's chapeau!
Posted By: beaverpeeler
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/16/20 04:57 AM
And his not so clean-shaven older brother Stephen Meek. (Circa 1858)
Posted By: pcr2
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/16/20 11:53 AM
Uncle Stephen.
Posted By: Lugnut
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/16/20 11:46 PM
Do you understand that it is an artist’s rendering and not a historically accurate photograph?
Posted By: Cathouse Jim
Re: Fur-Fish-Game - 01/16/20 11:48 PM
I haven't seen the cover in person only the posted picture here. The trap resembles many from the era, the following drawings are from actual traps in museums or collections.