ill be there. but they {the left} are trying everything they can to make it hard on us. i too hope the trapping folks get involved......... vta should be right up front taking up the cause for our rights and freedoms. it all goes hand in hand.
Yep..It's going to be sunny... and a high of 38 degrees ...light winds....In Richmond VA.. It will be a great day for the opportunity to possibly make American history..
The news channels sure are covering it, time will tell if it works in our favor. (The coverage)
I don't think there is any danger of the coverage working in our favor. The goods news is, anyone who isn't sound asleep knows the media is corrupt. It's up to us and as Chamacat mentioned, this is American history in the making.
As it was thinking this morning, what can I do to help those people in VA. This is not a VA. issue. As I looked around the web I kept see the Virginia Citizens Defense League come up. I looked at there record at getting new gun regulation bill defeated.
There is a check to join them. The cost is $25.00 dollars to join. I spend more than that to take the family to McDonalds. Like I said before, this is not just a VA issue, someone has to keep on top of this. I think there should be a 2nd amendment rally in every State. Every year. JMO. Want to do something to help, or a 2nd amendment group. or if it comes to a real fight you may not have the means to protect yourself. JMO
Every year. JMO. Want to do something to help, or a 2nd amendment group. or if it comes to a real fight you may not have the means to protect yourself. JMO
* Remember to Vote. *
We need to stand together. None of us wants to be labeled as an isolated kook by the media and I don't want to die alone but it's worth dying for. If they win, the country is forever changed and not for the better.
And a little Shakespeare...We would not die in that man's company who fears his fellowship to die with us.
It's one thing to read info- when it gets silly I just speed read skim through it. I just can't stand to waste time with the bandwidth given in having to listen to them.
Yep..William Wallace was a true patriot...to his country...and his fellow countrymen.He was butchered at the hands of his enemy...All in the name of freedom....As of yesterday there was information that has now expired by one day..on the 9th bullet down..It states.."An attack on the homeland will come without warning" from the National Terrorism Advisory..If the countrymen of this country don't get behind our fellow countrymen in what is the start in VA...the fight will soon be in your face and in your state..In fact even the POTUS has come out and said the 2A is under attack...We are living in times of what our forefathers knew was coming..
In peace there’s nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger: Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with hard-favored rage.
Shakespeare
Henry V: Act 3, Scene 1
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Virgina 2A Rally - 01/19/2007:56 PM
Brother and I are debating on cold rolling in. Not sure if we can get close though. From what I'm hearing, its gonna be big. Hopefully it will go as intended but I think there are those who want to make sure it doesn't.
These anti-American gun grabbers need to be dealt with, get in their face and stay there. . . . (Fox) President Trump warned in a tweet that Virginia Democrats were threatening Americans' right to bear arms. "Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That's what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!" he tweeted.
soros and bloomburg are likely paying immense amounts of money to leftist groups like antifa to attack and provoke Second Amendment supporters at the rally to make them look bad.
soros and bloomburg are likely paying immense amounts of money to leftist groups like antifa to attack and provoke Second Amendment supporters at the rally to make them look bad.
Keith
I would bet money on it. These are troubling times
soros and bloomburg are likely paying immense amounts of money to leftist groups like antifa to attack and provoke Second Amendment supporters at the rally to make them look bad.
Keith
I would bet money on it. These are troubling times
Wouldn’t be surprised if the antifa went undercover trying to pretend to be pro 2a marchers and paint a bad picture of the 2a marchers by causing violence and chaos.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the antifa went undercover trying to pretend to be pro 2a marchers and paint a bad picture of the 2a marchers by causing violence and chaos.
Could also be the government, wouldn’t be the first time they incited violence so they could restrict our rights.
Just look at the patriot act. Or fast and furious...
I'm not here to ask where you fella's get your news but it's nice to see folks that are paying attention and informed.... I think as a whole people are waking up.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the antifa went undercover trying to pretend to be pro 2a marchers and paint a bad picture of the 2a marchers by causing violence and chaos.
There's already reports that antifa is going undercover as pro 2A & have at least 7 buses reserved to get to the event
Looks like we will know what's what shortly. I believe this is a test case for a broader agenda and the anti Americans will use it to vilify gun owners. It is hard to dominate well armed people so they intend to disarm us all. 'no guns allowed in the fenced in free speech area'....form an line and go inside.
Yep..The sun is rising on a beautiful morning in Richmond VA...I see the faces of many colors of people standing in solidarity..When the government fears the people you have freedom..When the people fear the government you have tyranny...You can see the fear of the government with their barricades..May God Bless the Patriots this fine day...
We had nearly 20,000 at Albany , NY after the SAFE Act was passed. The rally was fun, but garnered little results, 6 years later and we still have the SAFE Act.
We had nearly 20,000 at Albany , NY after the SAFE Act was passed. The rally was fun, but garnered little results, 6 years later and we still have the SAFE Act.
Keep track of all the Bills etc. that is before committees. Vote the people that support out of office. There is no short term fix to this problem.
You mean to tell me all of those deplorable white supremacists gun nuts in one place and no killings or lynchings have occurred yet. Being facetious of course. I am glad it has stayed safe to this point and pray it continues that way. I also hope that the idiots in govt are paying attention as well as the folks that voted for those idiot politicians or didn't take the time to vote against them. Everyone needs to vote, and vote accordingly to fix these problems in all parts of this great nation.
We had nearly 20,000 at Albany , NY after the SAFE Act was passed. The rally was fun, but garnered little results, 6 years later and we still have the SAFE Act.
And so it will be here , Nothing will be gained ,it must go through the courts , State laws should not supersede the constitution
It seems like it all went well. It's over an no one was injured. I didn't think it would become a issue. After all, most of the people there were the ones that love their country unlike the typical libtard rally.
Wolfdog, I really like the exemplification of three black men, with three black guns, wearing a shirt that says "Black Guns Matter". Kudos to these men.
I was more afraid of a bomb today than any other problems. ANTIFA, BLM and the average wacko libtard are nothing more than cowards. They only show up when there is not a strong opposition. They certainly were not going to show up and start clubbing people and destroying property when there are thousands armed to the teeth who would justifiably fight back. They will save that for little old men and women in Portland.
I was more afraid of a bomb today than any other problems. ANTIFA, BLM and the average wacko libtard are nothing more than cowards. They only show up when there is not a strong opposition. They certainly were not going to show up and start clubbing people and destroying property when there are thousands armed to the teeth who would justifiably fight back. They will save that for little old men and women in Portland.
Just like other criminals. Which shows exactly why we need to protect our 2A rights.
I was more afraid of a bomb today than any other problems. ANTIFA, BLM and the average wacko libtard are nothing more than cowards. They only show up when there is not a strong opposition. They certainly were not going to show up and start clubbing people and destroying property when there are thousands armed to the teeth who would justifiably fight back. They will save that for little old men and women in Portland.
Just like anti's will throw red paint on a defenseless little old lady with a fur coat. Let them try that on a mean looking biker type wearing a leather jacket.
I just gotta know if anyone has heard how many people got killed in Virginia today by those crazy white nationalists gun carrying skin heads ? I’ve been trying to watch the news, but for some crazy reason none of the fake news media are covering the story. You would think they would all be reporting on the carnage that took place !!
I just gotta know if anyone has heard how many people got killed in Virginia today by those crazy white nationalists gun carrying skin heads ? I’ve been trying to watch the news, but for some crazy reason none of the fake news media are covering the story. You would think they would all be reporting on the carnage that took place !!
I saw very little news coverage on the Second Amendment Rally on the 3 news programs I watched. What happened in Charlottesville was mentioned in nearly equal time to the rally as was white supremacy. The news did its best to spin the rally as insignificant and racially motivated.
I just gotta know if anyone has heard how many people got killed in Virginia today by those crazy white nationalists gun carrying skin heads ? I’ve been trying to watch the news, but for some crazy reason none of the fake news media are covering the story. You would think they would all be reporting on the carnage that took place !!
I do know they did a good job self policing themselves!
Calling out the crazies and telling them to leave, and picking up the trash as they left.
Great to hear. We all need to thank those who went to the rally, this is not a just a VA. issue. They represented all law - abiding Gun Owners. Thank you again!
Some of my favorite pics coming out of this so far
Dang it, Wolfy. Here it is Martin Luther King Jr,day, and you go and post these pics. Now I sit here, with what seems like foreign matter suddenly in both of my eyes at the same time, causing enough irritation as to force a moist saline substance to leak from the ducts in the corners of my eyes. Seriously, thanks brother! There is no better day than MLK Day to have this rally in my opinion.
Bottom line is the politicians in VA dont care that these folks are upset. They are secure in the knowledge that nobody tore that fence down and entered the “gun free “ zone armed. If anything it made those anti American politicians braver.
Heard on NPR this morning the rally had minimal violence. What a way to word it.
Yeah , what a way to put a twist on the fake news.
1 arrest. A woman had her face covered in a bandanna. Police asked her several times to remove it , she refused to comply. I guess they have a law that says you can't wear a mask in public. But seen plenty of police wearing balaclava there.
Bottom line is the politicians in VA dont care that these folks are upset. They are secure in the knowledge that nobody tore that fence down and entered the “gun free “ zone armed. If anything it made those anti American politicians braver.
I disagree danny, good morning lol. There's gonna be a few of them dems that are gonna want reelected and with the show of people out there yesterday they may pull back the reigns a bit. We'll see I guess when they vote for the next unconstitutional gun law.
Now plan B crush the Governor's career and replace him with a friendly face! It looks like the Governor has stacked the deck in order to remain in power making recall harder for the people he is a very shady guy here.
Find a candidate that’s good for the State and throw our support behind him to counter the Bloomberg bucks that support him. If the Governor has a negative outcome few politicians will take any open backing from the gun grabbers after that.
So find a guy we can get behind and start the ball rolling VA.
Bottom line is the politicians in VA dont care that these folks are upset. They are secure in the knowledge that nobody tore that fence down and entered the “gun free “ zone armed. If anything it made those anti American politicians braver.
My thoughts exactly. They should have dragged their butts out of the capitol building and arrested them there and then to be tried for breaking the oath of their office and treason. Thats the only way this is going to stop. But we are letting them wear us down little by little. As someone here once said, death by a thousand pair cuts.
Do you think it would have been better if some had broken down the fence or destroyed property? I think the display was great for the image of typical gun owners.
Bottom line is the politicians in VA dont care that these folks are upset. They are secure in the knowledge that nobody tore that fence down and entered the “gun free “ zone armed. If anything it made those anti American politicians braver.
My thoughts exactly. They should have dragged their butts out of the capitol building and arrested them there and then to be tried for breaking the oath of their office and treason. Thats the only way this is going to stop. But we are letting them wear us down little by little. As someone here once said, death by a thousand pair cuts.
The equivalent of Indians on horse back cresting a hill on the enemy.
Bottom line is the politicians in VA dont care that these folks are upset. They are secure in the knowledge that nobody tore that fence down and entered the “gun free “ zone armed. If anything it made those anti American politicians braver.
My thoughts exactly. They should have dragged their butts out of the capitol building and arrested them there and then to be tried for breaking the oath of their office and treason. Thats the only way this is going to stop. But we are letting them wear us down little by little. As someone here once said, death by a thousand pair cuts.
I disagree they needed to make sure there was no Pro gun person involved in violence we do need to draw a line int he sand and not comply with any new laws , prohibitions or banns
the one arrest appeared to be an instigator who was trying to rile up the crowd she was shouting at peaceful persons calling them names trying to get them to fight.
28K people around 20K or better armed many with rifle and side arm
zero petitioners arrested one what appears may be an Antifa instigator who was trying to get herself killed was arrested for the bandanna on her 3rd warning. they had some journalists staging pics with spent brass on the street like they were getting ready to report from the war zone.
Make no mistake 20K armed persons could have taken those fences and killed everyone in the capitol building and the police would have lasted maybe a minute. However that is not what the crowd wanted the crowd wanted to peacefully air their grievances to their politicians and show that they are not the bad people the governor believes them to be..
the Orders given by both Captain Parker at the Lexington green and Captain Isaac Davis at the north bridge STAND YOUR GROUND! DO NOT FIRE UNLESS FIRED UPON !
if anything it gave the Governor a false sense of security that his fences and metal detector are adequate , he is quite the fool if he thinks that did anything but anger people more.
we want this to end peacefully or your playing into the governor's hands
I think it is very fitting on MLK day many whom visited Dr. King at his home described his gun collection as an Arsenal.
he knew the importance of the second amendment and being armed , He also knew that if they showed up with guns it would just be an excuse for the KKK controlled police to gun them down.
there was a time for guns and his people successfully used them many times but when every Blue politician is looking for you to start a fight to vindicate their disdain and hate for you and your rights it is time to turn the other cheek and show them the fools that they are.
it is really huge that black and white men and women alike and likely people of other ethnic origin all met peacefully while well armed at the Virginia state capitol for a common cause.
Make no mistake Mahatma Gandhi if he could have would have cut the head from every queens soldier , the queen and all her heirs for the slavery that they imposed on his country and people. but he knew it was not possible. people saw him as an old man , he as a studied Lawyer that burned with the hate of a thousand suns for the queen and her Empirical rule.
only when the Soap box , the ballot box , and the Jury box have failed is it time for the cartridge box.
Who was it that decided to stage the rally on MLK jr. day?
The Commonwealth has Lobby Day every year on this date. Why do you care anyway? You doing a little race baiting, are you? You should be made aware that the African-American turnout was pleasantly strong, and packing heat. Crawl back in your hole now.
Who was it that decided to stage the rally on MLK jr. day?
The Commonwealth has Lobby Day every year on this date. Why do you care anyway? You doing a little race baiting, are you? You should be made aware that the African-American turnout was pleasantly strong, and packing heat. Crawl back in your hole now.
Are you one of the paranoid who read something into every post? Is that what is known as being triggered? Did you miss-"Just the opposite, it is a tradition day for citizens to lobby and a "day of action"."? Or, did it not fit what you could say to join the group?
Both labels accurately describe many on both sides of the political scene. It saves politicians tons of work.
The problem is that, as the country becomes more divided, the more voters place themselves in one of the groups. The far left dems hate it being pointed out just as much as their counterparts on the far right do. And they are triggered just as easily as some here.
Run an experiment when you are with some of the type. Mention a couple of the good things trump has done since being elected to a Bernie or warren supporter or some of the lies that trump has told to one of his supporters. Instead of simply being a fellow American with a different view, you will be viewed as an enemy. It should not be that way in this country. Blind loyalty to a party or politicians is a threat to the American way.
Definition of a grackle: I'm a fence sitter. I have no principles I stand by. My principles change as the weather. I claim to be a conservative but openly admit I proudly voted for the most liberal president in modern history. I still praise him.
Both labels accurately describe many on both sides of the political scene. It saves politicians tons of work.
The problem is that, as the country becomes more divided, the more voters place themselves in one of the groups. The far left dems hate it being pointed out just as much as their counterparts on the far right do. And they are triggered just as easily as some here.
Run an experiment when you are with some of the type. Mention a couple of the good things trump has done since being elected to a Bernie or warren supporter or some of the lies that trump has told to one of his supporters. Instead of simply being a fellow American with a different view, you will be viewed as an enemy. It should not be that way in this country. Blind loyalty to a party or politicians is a threat to the American way.
What makes you think it always has to be blind loyalty? Did you ever think that some people have convictions that they won't be swayed from, and one party/president is the one that aligns to them? You do realize your on an outdoor website that is full of liberty, gun loving outdoorsman so you should expect this "group" to be on the conservative side.
Take yourself as an example. You never say a good word about Trump/ republicans so maybe you would and do faill your own experiment every thread that you can make about politics. If someone makes a positive post about Trump, you smell it out and try to discredit them..I realize your all knowing and perfect, but you could be placed in one of your "groups" as fast as the next guy.
Too many people try to point some things out to you, that just maybe God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason.
The “group think” insult you keep using is really stupid grackle. Makes you sound like “low-hanging fruit”, another one of your favorite insults.
Originally Posted by gryhkl
Both labels accurately describe many on both sides of the political scene. It saves politicians tons of work. .
That may be true of some portion of the general public but you constantly use those insults to refer to Tman members who disagree with your often conflicting and hypocritical opinions. I don't believe most members here are "group thinkers" or "low-hanging fruit."
You seem to think you are somehow intellectually superior to most here and that your opinions are the result of enlightened free thinking and superior to those held by other members by sole virtue of their dissimilarity.
Did you ever consider that perhaps the conservative views held by many here are the result of individual, independent thinkers arriving at similar conclusions?
Or do you really consider most here ignorant rednecks regurgitating the opinions FoxNews feeds them, brain-dead group-thinkers and low-hanging fruit in need of your very special form of enlightened education?
Knocking down that fence, then standing in the gun free zone armed, would have let the communists know gun owners will not roll over. That “protest” gives the reds hope that gun confiscation schemes are possible.
I'm still waiting for an Obama supporter to come up with something Barack did that was positive, I wish he had. Long on mouth, short on results. Oh, and I don't WORSHIP anyone on earth.
I'm still waiting for an Obama supporter to come up with something Barack did that was positive, I wish he had. Long on mouth, short on results. Oh, and I don't WORSHIP anyone on earth.
Even his supporters can’t come 8 things that mattered in those 8 years that he did, oh wait gun salesmen of the year all 8 years and a uptick in the economy when he was done because he was done.
The same guy that goes on about worship ignores the great things that have been done in the last 3 years while ignoring the 30 years before that.
well HOBBLE trapper some people think they are just the smartest so have at it but i see the dems saying we are to dumb to own guns and to dumb to vote because they need to impeach trump because we may re elect him maybe you should keep yours to yourself that is why threads get deleted so lets keep it civil
well HOBBLE trapper some people think they are just the smartest so have at it but i see the dems saying we are to dumb to own guns and to dumb to vote because they need to impeach trump because we may re elect him maybe you should keep yours to yourself that is why threads get deleted so lets keep it civil
Did I miss something?
Your post implied blacks would be somewhere else as if the 2nd isn’t important to them.
Originally Posted by regulargrey
x 2 and that is why they held it on the same day of the MLK rally so they would have less blacks and less of a crowd
I am not getting into a childless argument with you that is your opinion and the reason I don't have as many post as you i read and listen not run my mouth now keep it civil not get this post deleted
I'm still waiting for an Obama supporter to come up with something Barack did that was positive, I wish he had. Long on mouth, short on results. Oh, and I don't WORSHIP anyone on earth.
Osama bin Laden. Remember him? Why don't we have to worry him anymore?
I'm still waiting for an Obama supporter to come up with something Barack did that was positive, I wish he had. Long on mouth, short on results. Oh, and I don't WORSHIP anyone on earth.
Osama bin Laden. Remember him? Why don't we have to worry him anymore?
Thank you, Barack.
Jim
Intel obtained thanks to Bush and his water boarding techniques. But, I'm guessing you don't think Trump should have taken out Soleimani.
I'm still waiting for an Obama supporter to come up with something Barack did that was positive, I wish he had. Long on mouth, short on results. Oh, and I don't WORSHIP anyone on earth.
I despised the guy, but he got Osama bin laden, he deported a record number of illegal immigrants, and he signed the law that allowed guns in national parks. Those are three things that should make any republican happy.
I'm still waiting for an Obama supporter to come up with something Barack did that was positive, I wish he had. Long on mouth, short on results. Oh, and I don't WORSHIP anyone on earth.
I despised the guy, but he got Osama bin laden, he deported a record number of illegal immigrants, and he signed the law that allowed guns in national parks. Those are three things that should make any republican happy.
Has there ever been a president, democrat or republican, that was more anti-gun ownership than Obama? I can't think of any.
Is this considered anti-gun? Reagan said; "I'm a member of the NRA. And my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I support the Brady bill and I urge the Congress to enact it without delay. It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period [7 days] to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun."
From On The Issues. And He did support an assault-weapons ban and even joined two other former presidents in a letter to a major newspaper urging congressional approval of a ban.
Has there ever been a president, democrat or republican, that was more anti-gun ownership than Obama? I can't think of any.
Is this considered anti-gun? Reagan said; "I'm a member of the NRA. And my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I support the Brady bill and I urge the Congress to enact it without delay. It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period [7 days] to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun."
From On The Issues.
Not one of your Republican party you always mention?
Wish you'd explain who that party is that left you sometime.
Has there ever been a president, democrat or republican, that was more anti-gun ownership than Obama? I can't think of any.
Is this considered anti-gun? Reagan said; "I'm a member of the NRA. And my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I support the Brady bill and I urge the Congress to enact it without delay. It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period [7 days] to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun."
From On The Issues.
You didn't read the question very well. I'll try to condense it for you: Was there ever a president MORE anti-gun than Obama? Are you saying Reagan was more anti-gun than Obama? I don't think a year went by that Obama wasn't trying to reduce gun ownership. Why during the Obama years do you think people were buying up all the ammo they could?
During his first term, Obama didn't call for any major new restrictions on guns or gun owners. Instead, he urged authorities to enforce the state and federal laws already on the books. In fact, Obama signed only two major laws that address how guns are carried in America, and both actually expand the rights of gun owners.
One of the laws allows gun owners to carry weapons in national parks; that law took effect in February 2012 and replaced President Ronald Reagan's policy that required guns to be locked in glove compartments of trunks of cars that enter national parks.
Has there ever been a president, democrat or republican, that was more anti-gun ownership than Obama? I can't think of any.
Is this considered anti-gun? Reagan said; "I'm a member of the NRA. And my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I support the Brady bill and I urge the Congress to enact it without delay. It's just plain common sense that there be a waiting period [7 days] to allow local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on those who wish to buy a handgun."
From On The Issues. And He did support an assault-weapons ban and even joined two other former presidents in a letter to a major newspaper urging congressional approval of a ban.
1/02/2016 Obama plans a meeting with Loretta Lynch executive action on new stiffer gun control measures. Since republicans controlled the house and senate, it went nowhere.
After shooting in Connecticut, Obama called for new gun laws which was once again stopped by the republicans.
He made it known that he was anti-gun ownership, but knew with no control over the house or senate he was fighting a losing battle in his second term.
I do give him credit for taking out binLaden. That was a risky move on his part.
I think the demonstrators in VA represented gun owners very well. Breaking down the fence or doing any kind of damage would have weaken support for gun owners by law makers AND the general public.
Just trying to put the thread back on track and not, as one poster put it, make it about what president was the best.
I see that when presented with facts to answer a question that was asked, the expected posters show up and reply with their typical name calling.... Them usual suspects tryin'a git this here thread axed?
I voted for every republican that ran for president except MIT. I regret giving a second one to the GWBush/dick pair though. And I don't regret the one I gave Obama for his second term. I can't see me voting for trump again nor one of the current dems, unless maybe Tulsi somehow makes it. I don't know enough about her to say for sure though.
Maybe the Lincoln project will convince a good republican to run?
...and why would I put somebody on ignore? My feelings never get hurt in any way by even the most silly posts or name calling that some practice so often. I'm not of those who get triggered by a post that disagrees with my position.
Taking down the fence and standing in the no gun zone armed would have put a little fear in politicians I agree. Thats the whole point of doing it.
Government should fear the governed
Very true, but too soon in my opinion. There has been no ink on paper yet. I am certain that there soon will be, but then it will be time to act through the court system all the way to the Supreme Court where the 2A will be enforced. If that fails, then I, and the likes of me shall do what needs to be done.