It's hard to believe this is actually a thing, a ballot initiative to do something that the state biologists are against and flies in the face of common sense. If you are from Colorado you need to spread this video to everyone you know.
Make no mistake about it- it's driven by animal rights groups trying to reduce ungulate populations. Thy have a long range goal of getting people to stop hunting, and they will if there is nothing to hunt. Once participation drops off, then easy to win at the ballot box.
There is a rancher in NW Colorado where I used to hunt elk. He owns over 10,000 acres where he free-ranges over 1,000 head of beef cattle. He has enough problems with coyotes and new-born calves. I'm sure he just love to see wolves added to the problem.
These wolf lovers walk around with blinders on. They could care less about the problems introducing wolves would cause. To them, wolves are above all matters of importance and reason. I know this because I've been to meetings involving whether wolves should be delisted or not.
Make no mistake about it- it's driven by animal rights groups trying to reduce ungulate populations. Thy have a long range goal of getting people to stop hunting, and they will if there is nothing to hunt. Once participation drops off, then easy to win at the ballot box.
That was a interesting watch, while I would love to see more wolves back out on the landscapes that we wiped them off of I also have a deep respect for the wildlife biologists and state game depts. and the jobs they do so if CPW says it's not a good idea then they should not try and over rule them
IF you are not going to follow the data from known wildlife biologist and researchers that work for the State, you might as well get rid of them. Just another Red State.
IF..BIG IF...........Colorado can overcome this move , then what is needed is for all the consumptive wildlife users and the ranchers to pressure the legislature to remove the ability to decide wildlife management issues by popular vote.
That is what we finally had to do here when we were beset with the wolf wars in the 1990's.
There are groups like ATA that would be willing to help.
It's going to be tough to overcome the millennials and dopers in Denver & Boulder but it's the only hope. CO may be too far down the Blue slope to ever recover.
Traps and snares already being illegal in Colorado, wonder how they would be managed? Colorado has the best elk population of any state, which brings in a lot of $$$ from resident and nonresident sportsmen every year. Turn wolves loose and see what happens to the elk population in a few years. They will likely find their way down from Wyoming on their own without any help from the animal activists.
Traps and snares already being illegal in Colorado, wonder how they would be managed? Colorado has the best elk population of any state, which brings in a lot of $$$ from resident and nonresident sportsmen every year. Turn wolves loose and see what happens to the elk population in a few years. They will likely find their way down from Wyoming on their own without any help from the animal activists.
Colorado is well within their natural range and should have a managed population just like everywhere else. The problem arises when they are protected well beyond what they are supposed to be. The ESA needs to be reformed to stop its blatant abuse by animal rights groups.
I though you live free and die hard types were not scared of nothing. But try and get some wolves back where they belong and your all scared and crying. Give a wolf a chance, bring wilderness back to Colorado. Everything can't be easy. You Americans are so soft its embarrassing the liberals are doing a better job of Making America Great Again then you. Adversity is the tool that makes a nation great and wolves are adversity.
Having said that two packs of wolves went down my traplines yesterday and scared all the lynx out. I'm really mad about it, But I'm Canadian Trudeu does not want to make me great again.
I though you live free and die hard types were not scared of nothing. But try and get some wolves back where they belong and your all scared and crying. Give a wolf a chance, bring wilderness back to Colorado. Everything can't be easy. You Americans are so soft its embarrassing the liberals are doing a better job of Making America Great Again then you. Adversity is the tool that makes a nation great and wolves are adversity.
Having said that two packs of wolves went down my traplines yesterday and scared all the lynx out. I'm really mad about it, But I'm Canadian Trudeu does not want to make me great again.
You have entirely missed the point. Having wolves isn't the problem. Being able to manage them is the problem. Have you ever heard of Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming? Educate yourself about the wolves there. And Idaho. And Minnesota. And Michigan. And. And. And.
For a group with as deep of pockets as RMEF, it’s a bit sad they couldn’t use more footage of Colorado. I think over half of the scenery was from areas that are clearly not CO.
But yes, ballot-box biology has to end otherwise the good efforts done by anglers, hunters and trappers over the last century will slowly be eroded and eventually forgotten.
I though you live free and die hard types were not scared of nothing. But try and get some wolves back where they belong and your all scared and crying. Give a wolf a chance, bring wilderness back to Colorado. Everything can't be easy. You Americans are so soft its embarrassing the liberals are doing a better job of Making America Great Again then you. Adversity is the tool that makes a nation great and wolves are adversity.
Having said that two packs of wolves went down my traplines yesterday and scared all the lynx out. I'm really mad about it, But I'm Canadian Trudeu does not want to make me great again.
You have entirely missed the point. Having wolves isn't the problem. Being able to manage them is the problem. Have you ever heard of Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming? Educate yourself about the wolves there. And Idaho. And Minnesota. And Michigan. And. And. And.
Missed the point is Right. Give Him a Trapline where Wolves are 100% off limits!!
I don't think I missed the point. You don't want competition, wolves will make hunting harder. Ranchers will have to work a little harder, maybe employ an extra person or two. Wolves belong in wild Colorado, hunting will get a little more challenging but that's why its called hunting and not shopping. If only the hippies would work with you guys to come to an amicable compromise where wolves could return to Wild Colorado and but once there are sustainable numbers sportsman are allowed to manage them.
I wonder how much of that wolf money the video quoted was spent on lawyers and legal experts? I bet 50% minimum.
in the NWT the government pays us $200.00 for wolf samples and $400.00 for the hide.
In the Caribou management zone near the diamond mines the wolf incentive is close to $1300.00.
I don't think I missed the point. You don't want competition, wolves will make hunting harder. Ranchers will have to work a little harder, maybe employ an extra person or two. Wolves belong in wild Colorado, hunting will get a little more challenging but that's why its called hunting and not shopping. If only the hippies would work with you guys to come to an amicable compromise where wolves could return to Wild Colorado and but once there are sustainable numbers sportsman are allowed to manage them.
I wonder how much of that wolf money the video quoted was spent on lawyers and legal experts? I bet 50% minimum.
in the NWT the government pays us $200.00 for wolf samples and $400.00 for the hide.
In the Caribou management zone near the diamond mines the wolf incentive is close to $1300.00.
I don't know what to say about anything you've said about this situation,except you live in a different world than we do.
This video is one of the best objective videos I have seen. It's not full of conspiracy theories. There is a lot of science here. I agree that ballot box is not the way to manage wildlife but some state legislature's do that anyway. Just reality. I don't think the introduction in Idaho is nearly the travesty many people projected, but I'm not a cattle or sheep man. It sounds like wolves are reintroducing themselves anyway.
Make no mistake about it- it's driven by animal rights groups trying to reduce ungulate populations. Thy have a long range goal of getting people to stop hunting, and they will if there is nothing to hunt. Once participation drops off, then easy to win at the ballot box.
Deer hunter numbers are on the decline in MN. Down 11.5 percent from all time high 2012 (521,991 license sold)
Make no mistake about it- it's driven by animal rights groups trying to reduce ungulate populations. Thy have a long range goal of getting people to stop hunting, and they will if there is nothing to hunt. Once participation drops off, then easy to win at the ballot box.
Deer hunter numbers are on the decline in MN. Down 11.5 percent from all time high 2012 (521,991 license sold)
That's not the fault of wolves. Deer hunter numbers are down everywhere, even in states without wolves.
I don't think I missed the point. You don't want competition, wolves will make hunting harder. Ranchers will have to work a little harder, maybe employ an extra person or two. Wolves belong in wild Colorado, hunting will get a little more challenging but that's why its called hunting and not shopping. If only the hippies would work with you guys to come to an amicable compromise where wolves could return to Wild Colorado and but once there are sustainable numbers sportsman are allowed to manage them.
I wonder how much of that wolf money the video quoted was spent on lawyers and legal experts? I bet 50% minimum.
in the NWT the government pays us $200.00 for wolf samples and $400.00 for the hide.
In the Caribou management zone near the diamond mines the wolf incentive is close to $1300.00.
Obviously you have not been paying attention about the laws in Colorado banning furbearer management in the state of Colorado..........lost in space.
I don't think I missed the point. You don't want competition, wolves will make hunting harder. Ranchers will have to work a little harder, maybe employ an extra person or two. Wolves belong in wild Colorado, hunting will get a little more challenging but that's why its called hunting and not shopping. If only the hippies would work with you guys to come to an amicable compromise where wolves could return to Wild Colorado and but once there are sustainable numbers sportsman are allowed to manage them.
I wonder how much of that wolf money the video quoted was spent on lawyers and legal experts? I bet 50% minimum.
in the NWT the government pays us $200.00 for wolf samples and $400.00 for the hide.
In the Caribou management zone near the diamond mines the wolf incentive is close to $1300.00.
Obviously you have not been paying attention about the laws in Colorado banning furbearer management in the state of Colorado..........lost in space.
That FUR BAN is very IMPORTANT to ALL TRAPPERS ,,, it will be coming to state near you if this passes . Imo
That sucks, no fur bearer management. How do you guys let stuff like that happen. Sleeping at the wheel? Why did you bother concerring Colarado to totally wimp it out.
That sucks, no fur bearer management. How do you guys let stuff like that happen. Sleeping at the wheel? Why did you bother concerring Colarado to totally wimp it out.
