White sugar and cancer

Something West River Rogue said on another thread that got me thinking about sugar and cancer. I read various reports that sugar causes inflammation and inflammation feeds cancer cells. Any truth to it? Also, what type of inflammation. Is it like the inflammation around an inflamed injured joint or something else? Is the inflammation all through your body when you eat sugar therefore the cancer cells have no problem finding the inflammation?

Not a md nor a very wise scholar on the subject. I have done some self research on the topic. My thoughts and opinion on the inflammation is that a temporary swell due to most minor injuries usually heals itself with out long term side effects. The CHRONIC inflammation we tend to develop as we age or are otherwise unhealthy with obesity, diabetes,smokers, drinkers, immobilized and such starts to cause great stresses on our immune systems to be able to Properly and efficiently heal ourselves. Many of us just dont realize the inflammation attacks our healing organs ie... stomach, small intestines, large intestine, pancreas, liver, kidneys.
Our nutritional inputs have become so toxic it stresses our whole system to remove the waste and toxins we consume on a daily weekly yearly lifetime of several decades.
The most nutrient dense foods we eat (that are clean) is how our body receives the ability to cure itself. Nutrient dense and as organic as you can find such as Broccoli, spinach, kale, Cauliflower, apples, blueberries. Avacado. Asparagus. Carrots. Wild game there are many many nutrient dense foods and potato chips and pizza are not them. The highly processed food giants are slowly killing us from the inside.
JMO

California to ban sugar in 3 , 2 , 1.......
Except for Starbucks......lol

From what i have read in past, there is some truth to sugar.. think of all the cakes and sweets..junk food with the amount of sugar we consume.
I switch fom sugar to honey atleast in my coffeeand cut back on sweets, hoping it helps the energy level and immune system.

A fine example of too much available online information being a bad thing, since much of it is false or outright lies. And people don’t know any better. And now this thread is going to contribute, because there’s some ridiculous garbage in here already being presented as facts.

Its all about moderation with anything.

Dang, I'm gonna have to eat more brown sugar.

Everything causes cancer they will tell you.One day don't eat eggs They are bad for you.Months later oh never mind eggs are good for you.Dont eat sugar that's bad eat artificial sweetners.Later find out it's worse then sugar.Don't eat lobster as it's full of cholesterol. Nope never mind it's the right cholesterol......it just goes on and on.

I do believe there is some sort of affinity between mutant cells and sugar. That relationship is even used as a diagnostic tool.

Example: back in 2010 when I was diagnosed with throat cancer the doc wanted to pinpoint the source.

Some of you will have had a PET scan. It was my first and quite interesting.
I was in Anchorage, at the hospital radiology lab early in the morning.

Meanwhile in Seattle a technician mixed a solution of sugar and a radioactive isotope to a specific half-life concentration.
They put it on a plane and flew it to ANC.

A courier picked it up at the airport and brought it to the lab.

At this point it had 1 hour of half-life remaining. They hooked it up to my IV drip. I sat there for 60 minutes.

Then they stuck me in an MRI machine and turned it up to redline.

My cells had attracted the sugar from the solution. But the cancer cells had attracted way more sugar and thus way more radioactive isotope. The MRI clearly showed the concentration of the isotope on the source of the cancer.
So YES, I believe that sugar is probably not a good thing to eat a lot of.

Cancer is metabolically much more active than your normal cells. It grows much faster, and therefore needs more energy. So, since sugar is energy, it will concentrate in areas that need the most energy.

Correct.
Chemotherapy in a nutshell is taking poison. Think of a lawn with weeds. Put down weedkiller , the weeds take in more than the grass and die. The grass takes in less , suffers but recovers. Cancer cells are like weeds , grow faster than the other cells. This is why your hair falls out during chemotherapy , fast growing. Your nails also get stunted during this period. I had growth rings on my nails as they stopped growing with each cycle of chemotherapy.

This is the key. To much water can be bad for you.

Sugar is poison, I cut out processed sugar and lost 20 lbs. and feel better than I did in my 20's. After a week or so without it you lose the craving for it. To each his own.

I hated the two PET scans I had. I much preferred the CT scans. The problem with the PET scans was the extended time of absolutely no movement. I'm not like that. I asked if I could move my big toe now and again. The technician granted this request, but if I only moved that one body part.

That's interesting about the sugar. I know they put a radioactive isotope in me, but I had no idea what it was.

Those of us who have had an impact believe in what helped us. I had some chronic issues for several years and made some lifestyle choices. Nothing major just watched what i put inside my body. Slowly I started to feel and see some positive changes and after a year most of the chronic stuff was nearly a forgotten issue after a decade of some very uncomfortable times. I cut most of the refined sugar out, cut back on most all breads and tried to eat the Whole Foods I grew up eating and yes I feel 90% better 90% of the time.

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2 of you nailed it.

I also didnt say white sugar...i said sugar of all types...i never do it. We get enough in things we eat

Again no cancer expert here, but very true that so many eat too many refined products, especially refined sugar and white flour. Plenty on here eat lots of game, but it doesn't cost a lot more to eat better. Buy unrefined sugar, eat whole wheat bread, less pasta, less bacon/sausage, and more whole grains and fresh vegetables. Easy to give up some of the bad stuff like cheap pizza, drive through burgers and fries and soft drinks. It just takes more time to prepare a good meal.

Those who garden are well ahead. Fresh produce is a lot better than canned or frozen in terms of nutrition. When we lived in CA I ate a lot more game, because of good duck/goose/turkey hunting plus wild salmon and stripers. Here I still do OK on deer and wild boar but I can buy lambs and veal from the neighbors that is organic.

Good luck to all who fight cancer.

Pete

Here is a couple thoughts , Jack Lalane lived to be 98 years old. The man ate like a goat. Ate everything healthy he could think of , exercised like a fanatic. He admitted to eating less than 10 candy bars in his whole life.

George Burns drank , smoked and chased younger women. He lived to 100. Bob Hope lived to be 100.

There is a HUGE amount of disinformation out there in the media about diet and food. A lot of it is put out by food companies out for your dollar. Remember when bottled water first got popular , they were telling you that you needed 6-8 glasses a day and soda , coffee and other drinks didn't count. That made the bottled water companies grab large amounts of market share that they still own. However a lot of that has been debunked. Even though soda with sugar or artificial sweeteners may not be as good as plain water , it still hydrates your body. There was a push not too long ago to sway people away from high fructose corn syrup. Like it was the most horrible food invented. Bet the sugar companies pushed that. The suppliers of high fructose corn syrup came out with a great ad to counteract it . Two women talking , one is telling the other how bad high fructose corn syrup is , the other one replies well they make it out of corn. How bad is corn for you ? Orange juice is pushed as a healthy drink , it has more fructose per oz. than soda , but minimal vitamins. Yes , it is better than soda by only by a very tiny bit.

Bet you know somebody who buys gluten free foods but doesn't have celiac disease. There is no need to buy this unless you are affected by celiac disease , it doesn't make you any healthier. Plus it is real pricey.

Ever notice , oh , this food is bad , then a short period later it is good for you. Milk , butter , eggs are typical examples.
Take a good look at the USDA food pyramid. It has gotten revised a couple times. Why ? It has been proven that earlier editions of it were swayed by farmers/industries to push certain food groups to bolster sales. One version of the food pyramid not too long ago pushed lots of servings of breads and grains. They have toned that down a bit lately. Proven fact the earlier version was slanted to push grains for the people who sell make/sell them.
Everything in moderation , an active lifestyle and MOST importantly great genetics is probably your best bet.
Ever seen a person who smoked like a chimney but lived to 100+ and never got cancer. Genetics. Then there is the other side of the coin , those that died very young with cancer but lived a very healthy lifestyle.

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My grandmother smoked lucky strikes and drank Jim beam, she had 14 children, lived to be 96. She had a hard life by today’s standards and was very poor. She outlived two husbands and lived longer than all her children. My mother is the only child still living at the age of 85 but she is terminally ill. I have no idea what or who to believe anymore.

theres many factors that go into deaths but this thread was really about sugars specifically for people with cancer as many of us have,and the proof a few provided about the test with sugar criteria etc.
We could start another thread addressing those other thoughts,many things to think about.

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Quote - Mayo clinic

Myth: People with cancer shouldn't eat sugar, since it can cause cancer to grow faster.
Fact: Sugar doesn't make cancer grow faster. All cells, including cancer cells, depend on blood sugar (glucose) for energy. But giving more sugar to cancer cells doesn't speed their growth. Likewise, depriving cancer cells of sugar doesn't slow their growth.

This misconception may be based in part on a misunderstanding of positron emission tomography (PET) scans, which use a small amount of radioactive tracer — typically a form of glucose. All tissues in your body absorb some of this tracer, but tissues that are using more energy — including cancer cells — absorb greater amounts. For this reason, some people have concluded that cancer cells grow faster on sugar. But this isn't true.

However, there is some evidence that consuming large amounts of sugar is associated with an increased risk of certain cancers, including esophageal cancer. It can also lead to weight gain and increase the risk of obesity and diabetes, which may increase the risk of cancer.

its not true,you can copy and paste all day but those of us with the disease and having undergone test to do with it know better. Why do you always try to debunk everything..??

Quote cancer.gov



Will eating sugar make my cancer worse?

No. Although research has shown that cancer cells consume more sugar (glucose) than normal cells, no studies have shown that eating sugar will make your cancer worse or that, if you stop eating sugar, your cancer will shrink or disappear. However, a high-sugar diet may contribute to excess weight gain, and obesity is associated with an increased risk of developing several types of cancer. For more information, see the NCI fact sheet on Obesity and Cancer.

https://www.cityofhope.org/blog/cancer-and-diabetes-more-connections-than-you-think

why are you so negative? I can quote many more saying different but then if you dont have cancer why contaminate a post for those of us who do?

I am not a doctor, however these are reputational sources. American cancer society has the same thing on their site too.

Believe in whatever you want.

I have been fighting prostate cancer since 2007 with the diagnoses first being stage 2C cancer. I was in remission for many years with my PSA count going down to 0.0 three years ago. However, since then the PSA count has been rising slowly and the cancer may have come back and I am still in the monitoring stage due to its potential slow growth. I also had a pre-cancerous polyp in my last colonoscopy. I just wanted to see if I can do anything myself to help fight it instead of just playing a waiting game and getting screenings. I read a lot about sugar playing a roll but could never verify it. I would like to quote something from a book called Anti Cancer written by a Dr. David Servan-Schreiber, MD. , PhD. Dr. Schreiber developed a very aggressive form of brain cancer when he was 30 years old and was given only a short time to live but eventually lived 20 years before he passed. When alive, he followed his own teachings in the book. It was not alternative medicine but a complimentary system of things to do in addition to chemotherapy and radiation he was receiving.
A quote from the book. “When we eat sugar or white flour - foods with a high glycemic index - blood levels of glucose rise rapidly. The body immediately releases a dose of insulin to enable the glucose to enter cells. The secretion of insulin is accompanied by the release of another molecule, called IGF (insulinlike growth factor), whose role is to stimulate cell growth. In short, sugar nourishes tissues and makes them grow faster. Furthermore, insulin and IGF have another effect in common: They promote the factors of inflammation, which, as we saw in chapter 4, also stimulate cell growth and act, in turn, as fertilizer for tumors.”

Ive been fighting leukemia since 2010 (cancer in blood,bone marrow and lymphnodes,incurable type to date...like you I do anything and everything to fight it. I lived in s.e. asia for 9 yrs after the diagnosis(4 before yrs ago) The cancer(we use white count to monitor)grew extremely slow there due to(I believe diet,climate,and holistic meds my oncologist (ohio state university) and my gp told me whatever I was doing there I was doing something right. Its increasing but im a fighting. Happy to discuss with you in pm or if u want to call me.

I have personally benefited from listening to and practicing advice from a functional medicine MD. I would encourage anyone to seek out a Reputable Functional medicine practitioner. Don’t act on anything they say if you feel you are being steered in a direction your not comfortable with.
I found one I believe is very educated on how you can help heal and better deal with functions of the body and how they work together. Remember the earth and many civilizations for centuries practiced medicine way before the modern era of synthetic drugs were developed.
When civilizations had hundreds of years to study the effects of different treatments and natural remedies some worked and some did not. They kept the things that worked and passed it down to generation after generations. Modern medicine will blast all functional medicine practitioners when they are ignorant of history. My first visit cost $250 two and half years ago and I had spent a small fortune on all the specialist in the area to be told your getting older just go home and live with it.
That $250 office visit started me on a much better path and my function and response to some really minor lifestyle changes has opened my eye to know that everything you put in your body is not necessarily “good”.
In fact can cause you chronic issues.