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What are these Foxes worth ? UPDATED
Posted By: walleyed
What are these Foxes worth ? UPDATED - 02/01/20 10:22 PM
Let's guess what these foxes are worth or were sold for.
Sold today at the New York State Herkimer Auction.
all fox were taken between November 15th and December 15th, 2019
In Northern New York. greys would all grade Heavy select at NAFA/FHA
All foxes have complete legs, paws, and lower lips.
I'm assuming they are destined for the wall hanger, trinket, Internet tanned fur trade.
You might want to take that fact into account when making your estimate.
Have At It !!
w
Posted By: RM trapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:24 PM
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:26 PM
$204.00
Posted By: pcr2
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:28 PM
tree fiddy for all.306 for the greys and 44 for the reds.tree fiddy.
Posted By: PAskinner
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:30 PM
$215.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:31 PM
Nice bunch of fox.sad price for them.
Posted By: Dirt
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:34 PM
Two of my nasty, stinking, brown, coyotes.
Posted By: 080808
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:35 PM
$289 after commission.
Posted By: novatrapper01
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:37 PM
Beautiful bunch of fox. No idea but I’ll say 375
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:38 PM
Would be A little over $10 average
Posted By: nramemb
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:40 PM
$387,000.00
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:42 PM
Sold
Posted By: Boco
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:42 PM
Worth about 10 made beaver.
Posted By: rex123
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:44 PM
Really nice. 347.00
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:44 PM
$250
Posted By: TRAPPERL06
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:50 PM
$324.50
Posted By: forestman3
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:51 PM
140.00
Posted By: danny clifton
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:55 PM
336
Posted By: Hodagtrapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:58 PM
$460.00
Chris
Posted By: red webb
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 10:58 PM
297
Posted By: vegasjim
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:00 PM
400.00
Posted By: Snowpa
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:00 PM
425
Posted By: Moosetrot
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:01 PM
$381.37
Moosetrot
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:02 PM
Guys,
Nobody is close.
I've added more information on their putup, fur quality, condition, etc.
I think everyone will be surprised.
I know I was shocked.
Try another guess.
w
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:03 PM
Getting warmer !!!
w
Posted By: pcr2
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:04 PM
one-----million------dollars.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:05 PM
$600
Posted By: nramemb
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:05 PM
Wasn't I close??
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:06 PM
Getting still warmer !!!!
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:07 PM
$480
Posted By: pcr2
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:07 PM
25 nose count
Posted By: Colter Benson
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:08 PM
$20 apiece, $480 total
Posted By: waggler
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:08 PM
Maybe enough to fix that garage door if you're lucky.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:08 PM
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:09 PM
WARMER !!!!! w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:10 PM
$655
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:10 PM
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:12 PM
HOTTER still Bruce !!!!
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:12 PM
$700
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:14 PM
Lol I remember my $80 nose count years for a fox
Posted By: Hodagtrapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:14 PM
$660.00
Chris
Posted By: rex123
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:14 PM
688
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:16 PM
BURNING HOT HOT HOT BRUCEY
w
Posted By: Moosetrot
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:16 PM
665.00
Moosetrot
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:18 PM
$701,$702,$703,$704,$705,$706,$707,$708,$709
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:20 PM
$701,$702,$703,$704,$705,$706,$707,$708,$709
That's cheating bruce.
But one of those guesses is almost dead on !!!
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:21 PM
$701,$702,$703,$704,$705,$706,$707,$708,$709
That's cheating bruce.
But one of those guesses is almost dead on !!!
w
$704.50
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:24 PM
That's cheating bruce.
But one of those guesses is almost dead on !!!
w
$704.50
You got the .50cent part right.
w
Posted By: trapmando
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:25 PM
360.00 for the greys......185.00 for the reds
Posted By: RM trapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:25 PM
$702.50
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:26 PM
$709.50
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:26 PM
706.27
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:26 PM
Higher josh.
w
Posted By: Hodagtrapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:27 PM
$708.50
Chris
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:28 PM
LOWER
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:28 PM
$703.50
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:29 PM
HIGHER !!!
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:29 PM
$705.50
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:30 PM
HIGHER !!!!
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:31 PM
$706,50
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:33 PM
Higher !!!!
Only two possible guesses left.
Somebody put Bruce out of his misery.
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:34 PM
$707.50
Posted By: Nittany Lion
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:34 PM
$707.50
Posted By: Nittany Lion
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:35 PM
Didn't type fast enough.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:35 PM
Bruce and Nittany !!!
so close.
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:36 PM
$708.50 has already been guessed by hodagtrapper
Posted By: Gulo
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:38 PM
$ 546.00
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:39 PM
$708.50 has already been guessed
By Who ?
I must have missed.
whoever it was ...........WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
$708.50 for 17 greys and 7 reds.
Who guessed right ?
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:40 PM
Hodagtrapper
Posted By: trappermac NY
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:41 PM
Those are some beautiful pelts there, very nicely handled. Your work Bob?
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:41 PM
Sorry Chris,
I guess I missed your guess in the frenzy !!!
w
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:43 PM
Old get smart would say to agent 99.....missed by that much
Posted By: RM trapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:47 PM
Dang, you done real well. I may should quit releasing the fox I catch. Of course our fur isn't as good
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:48 PM
$28,68 average
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:55 PM
My work on the putup, Mac.
A friend of mine took these fox in my neighborhood but doesn't know how to put up fur,
so I volunteered to put them up and market them for him at the auction.
He's sick cause he gave away around 40 cayutes. walleyed doesn't like to do cayutes
Here's breakdown of the fox:
3 greys @ $39.00= $117.00
3 greys @ $31.00= $93.00
4 greys @ $31.00= $124.00
4 greys @ $25.00= $100.00
3 greys @ $30.00= $90.00
1 red @ $28.00=$28.00
1 red @ $37.00= $37.00
1 red @ $27.50= $27.50
1 red @ $23.00= $23.00
2 reds @ $30.00= $60.00
1 red @ $9.00 = $9.00
$708.50 total
Also sold 2 rats @ $3.00 each
1 coon @ $9,50
1 coon @ $12.50
1 Male Fisher @ $39.00
and 3,25 Lbs of Castor at $80.00 a pound.
w
Posted By: wetdog
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:58 PM
680.16 take home
Did you get a free DVD. Lol
Very nice fur, hope I do as well
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/01/20 11:58 PM
$546.00
Posted By: Dirt
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:05 AM
Split the money between two guys $14.34 per.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:05 AM
Prices were outstanding.
Top Coyote I saw was $86.00
Top coon $15.00
Top Fisher was about $50.00
Top mink $11.000
Top Greys were ours at $39.00
Top red was ours at $37.00
Top otter was $45.00
Top Beaver was an 82Incher At $80.00 I think
Coyote average was in the 40's, I believe.
Some cats went in the 50's
Top rat $6.10 and maybe $4.00 average
Castor went for between $80 and $83.00 a pound while I was there.
prices were great for our current market.
10 buyers.
I only stayed till noon and there was another 4 hours of fur, I figure.
i think I heard there were about 700 lots
w
Posted By: Boco
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:07 AM
Sounds like fur is on the upswing.Will know for sure after the FHA sale.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:14 AM
Good Deal !!!
Thanks for posting
Posted By: yumm
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:15 AM
FOR CRAFTERS!!!
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:15 AM
680.16 take home
Did you get a free DVD. Lol
Very nice fur, hope I do as well
did you deduct commission ?
Not sure if it is 6%, 8%, Or !0% this year ?
w
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:24 AM
Split the money between two guys $14.34 per.
Nope,
Actually I think He's giving walleyed ALL the $$$ as I was tutoring him
on the fur putup so I'm Rich !!!!
Posted By: Dirt
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:28 AM
Good job treating him fairly for this market. You may have the qualities necessary for a successful furbuyer?
Posted By: Boco
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:29 AM
Walleyed bought them off the kid for $5 apiece in the round.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 12:38 AM
Good job treating him fairly for this market. You may have the qualities necessary for a successful furbuyer?
Guy's 12 years my senior and I was doing them for free.
It was his idea to have me keep the $$$. He said he got a real education on fur putup and marketing.
I'm giving lessons Boco & Dirt...I'll show you how to market those worthless Boreal Pine Marten !!!
w
Posted By: nimzy
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:08 AM
Where else on earth can you get that kind of education for free?
Glad to see he recognizes great value. Congrats to you both!
Posted By: Bigbrownie
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:18 AM
You did really well Walleyed. You had great fur with great put ups.
I’m not sure why, but prices at District PTA sales have been horrible this year. At the four or so sales in January, reds have been averaging less than $5, greys not much better. I would suspect NY fur to be better than Pa’s, but not that much better. You’re lucky to find a sale where you could average $8-9 on beaver. Coons averaging $4-5 , all put up prices.
Posted By: NonPCfed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:19 AM
Nice work walleyed but it sounds like an anomaly, somebody had niche high-end market that need a few primo pelts. We'll see what reddies and grays in general do in other sales.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:59 AM
You did really well Walleyed. You had great fur with great put ups.
I’m not sure why, but prices at District PTA sales have been horrible this year. At the four or so sales in January, reds have been averaging less than $5, greys not much better. I would suspect NY fur to be better than Pa’s, but not that much better. You’re lucky to find a sale where you could average $8-9 on beaver. Coons averaging $4-5 , all put up prices.
It will be interesting to see where coon, beaver, and muskrat averages end up at.
There were a lot of reds and greys in the high teens that did not have
complete legs, paws, and lower lips but still did very well.
But poorly handled and flatter foxes of both species struggled to break the $10.00 mark.
Beaver and coon were much better than I expected even with the smaller sizes.
I'm sure It helped that there were 10 or more buyers present but every item
was improved prices from prior earlier auctions.
w
Posted By: trappermac NY
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:04 PM
You did really well Walleyed. You had great fur with great put ups.
I’m not sure why, but prices at District PTA sales have been horrible this year. At the four or so sales in January, reds have been averaging less than $5, greys not much better. I would suspect NY fur to be better than Pa’s, but not that much better. You’re lucky to find a sale where you could average $8-9 on beaver. Coons averaging $4-5 , all put up prices.
Agree, been watching the district sales in PA and the prices have been terrible, including the coyote prices. Everything I've seen elsewhere is quite a bit higher than in PA.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:11 PM
i see the same,PA needs to change regulations.heck groeny won't even cross our state line.
Posted By: nightstalker1
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 01:56 PM
I was there and Bob's foxes were the stars of the fox sales....looked outstanding as they crossed the sale table
Most of the fur market put up reds sold in the teens
Good coyotes were in demand $60 - $80 range
After I left, Beaver prices got hot too
Posted By: Lugnut
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 02:00 PM
My work on the putup, Mac.
A friend of mine took these fox in my neighborhood but doesn't know how to put up fur,
so I volunteered to put them up and market them for him at the auction.
He's sick cause he gave away around 40 cayutes. walleyed doesn't like to do cayutes
Here's breakdown of the fox:
3 greys @ $39.00= $117.00
3 greys @ $31.00= $93.00
4 greys @ $31.00= $124.00
4 greys @ $25,00= $100.00
3 greys @ $30.00= $90.00
1 red @ $28.00=$28.00
1 red @ $37.00= $37.00
1 red @ $27.50= $27.50
1 red @ $23.00= $23.00
2 reds @ $30.00= $60.00
1 red @ $9.00 = $9.00
$708.50 total
Also sold 2 rats @ $3.00 each
1 coon @ $9,50
1 coon @ $12.50
1 Male Fisher @ $39.00
and 3,25 Lbs of Castor at $80.00 a pound.
w
Those are pretty good prices on the reds. We have been seeing averages as low as $4.00-$5.00 at the PTA district sales. I'm surprised trappers let them go for that amount but I guess if you have no way to store them or no alternative buyers or markets...
Posted By: jbyrd63
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 02:12 PM
Yea THAT WAS GREAT ! You know why they brought so much. First you stated they had 10 buyers. PLUS I BET THEY DIDN'T have none of those BACK ROOM PT sales..... I have always said that would ruin the fur market and I believe it bit NAFA in the back side . Why bid against each other on the floor when they can just scheme among them selves and buy it for a lower price after the auction closes.??? !!!
Then they spin it for the kool aid drinkers that they did them a favor!!!! NO right the opposite.
Posted By: FairbanksLS
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 02:15 PM
Great prices and a great job on the put up walleyed.
Put up can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. A great job on the put will make sure that silk purse is a silk purse when taken off the stretcher.
Posted By: Dirt
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 03:23 PM
Yea THAT WAS GREAT ! You know why they brought so much. First you stated they had 10 buyers. PLUS I BET THEY DIDN'T have none of those BACK ROOM PT sales..... I have always said that would ruin the fur market and I believe it bit NAFA in the back side . Why bid against each other on the floor when they can just scheme among them selves and buy it for a lower price after the auction closes.??? !!!
Then they spin it for the kool aid drinkers that they did them a favor!!!! NO right the opposite.
Even the kool aid drinkers or NAFA or FHA don't believe selling in the PT room is a good deal. It is not a bad deal if they sell for what similar fur bid on brought.It is not a terrible deal if they sell for minimum asking price plus 10%. Everybody wants bidding, however there is always buyer collusion at any auction, because they don't want to bid if they don't have to. How much bidding on fur is there at the furbuyers? It is just like a PT deal.
P.S. The reason they brought more than the other fox was because he
did extra work skinning out the paws and not cutting off the legs.
Posted By: pcr2
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 03:33 PM
all kiddin aside,great job Wally.
Posted By: nyrat
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 10:09 PM
the pa guys should make the trip to ny to sale there furs. I looked into getting a pa fur buyer lic way to much BS
Posted By: Bigbrownie
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 10:28 PM
What would be the nearest NY sale to Erie, Pa?
Posted By: bobsheedy
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 10:44 PM
Probably Hinsdale. Look in the "Fur Sales Directory."
Posted By: mud
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 10:45 PM
Well done walleyed. They look nice. This has been my first year where I’ve been able to trap greys since the move. Neat critters. My understanding is the greys here on the eastern shore used to grade well at NAFA as well.
Posted By: 080808
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 10:52 PM
walleyed. Thanks for the info. This indicates that the light at the end of the tunnel isn’t necessarily an incoming train.
Posted By: cat daddy
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 11:00 PM
I’ll give you $150 for the reds. PM me.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 11:06 PM
Well done walleyed. They look nice. This has been my first year where I’ve been able to trap greys since the move. Neat critters. My understanding is the greys here on the eastern shore used to grade well at NAFA as well.
Our Grey Fox in the Northern edge of New York State consistently graded Heavy- Super Select
at all the past NAFA auctions and almost always were in the top lot.
Many TOP LOT Certificates over the years.
FHA was never been able to match NAFA for finding the best Grey Fox Market and buyers.
Hopefully that will change in the near future.
w
Posted By: mud
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 11:10 PM
Agreed. My fox always did better at NAFA. Beaver better at FHA.
We didn’t do a whole lot this season. Space is limited until the new house gets done. But we scratched the itch and caught some new critters for us.
Posted By: walleyed
Re: What are these Foxes worth ? - 02/02/20 11:27 PM
Agreed. My fox always did better at NAFA. Beaver better at FHA.
We didn’t do a whole lot this season. Space is limited until the new house gets done. But we scratched the itch and caught some new critters for us.
Outstanding !
Nothing prettier than a Grey Fox !!!!
w