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Posted By: ~ADC~

snake ID - 03/03/20 09:49 PM

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My nephew just moved from here to Arkansas. He wanted verification. smile
Posted By: Taximan

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 09:51 PM

It is a Northern Water snake.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 09:54 PM

Copperhead just before shedding by the looks of it
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 09:56 PM

Doesn't the water snake have black lines / patches coming up from the belly on the sides.
Posted By: j crow

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 09:58 PM

Doesn’t look poisonous by the head shape but it would be a dead snake if I saw it. King snakes are the only ones I let live lol
Posted By: cmcf

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 09:59 PM

I think Scuba is right. Getting ready to shed the patern looks familiar.
Posted By: ebsurveyor

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:00 PM

Copperhead Agkistrodon contortrix. ENDANGERED. It is illegal to kill or collect this species by law in Iowa. Although copperheads may be quite common in other parts of their range, they are at the northern limits of their range here and are one of Iowa's rarest snakes


Rat Snake Elaphe obsoleta. PROTECTED. It is illegal to kill or collect this species by law in Iowa. Common in eastern Iowa, records for the southern parts of the state are scattered.

Northern water snakes are by far the most abundant of the three water snake species in Iowa, and also one of the most common large snakes in general. It is often seen by fishermen, who may mistake them for the venomous cottonmouth, which is not found in Iowa
Posted By: j crow

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:03 PM

I’m voting eastern rat snake just because of the head shape
Posted By: coydog2

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:28 PM

Plain-bellied water snake is what it is here is a link https://www.google.com/search?q=pla...iT277PrP_nAhWRmp4KHeK8BcIQ_AUoAHoECAEQAA
Posted By: Tom cat

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:28 PM

I'm thinking copperhead. You can't always go by the head shape in my experience.
Posted By: slowpoke

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:30 PM

Water snake
Posted By: The Possum Man

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:31 PM

That is not a copperhead. probably a water snake that will get killed for looking like a water moccasin.
Posted By: Turd Furgeson

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:39 PM

As already mentioned it’s a northern water snake
Posted By: Hobbs

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 10:41 PM

I have a 100% positive ID... it is, without a doubt... a "Nope Rope"
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: snake ID - 03/03/20 11:55 PM

Water snake
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:14 AM

My son is a big time amatuer snake man. He says banded water snake.
Posted By: Donnie H

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:14 AM

Pick it up and look at its eyes...
Posted By: charles

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:44 AM

It looks like a copperhead to me.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:50 AM

water snake, have one living in our spring every year
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:51 AM

My standard bet of $20,000 says northern watersnake.
The tell is the dark margin surrounding the brown/tan patches.
Posted By: Bigbrownie

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:55 AM

It’s a water snake. In Pennsylvania, snakes with rattles are rattlesnakes. All other snakes are coppperheads.
Posted By: gutthooked

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:58 AM

Water snake
Posted By: mississippiposse

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 12:58 AM

Northern water snake. Common name around these parts is banded water snake
Posted By: forestman3

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:10 AM

Copperhead has more spots not stripes.
Posted By: trapperman222

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:16 AM

He said moved FROM Iowa to Arkansas.
Posted By: Cragar

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:19 AM

Water snake
Handled a few removing from houses. Snappy little suckers , they like to strike when messed with. Gotta wear protective gear when grabbing them without snake tongs.

Looks a tad dull , maybe due for a shedding soon.
Posted By: Bucknuts

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:20 AM

Definitely a venomous water snake. What we call a banded water snake.
Posted By: Bucknuts

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:21 AM

Non venomous sorry about that
Posted By: KeithC

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:50 AM

Northern, Southern and banded water snakes all have an anticoagulant in their saliva, that makes you bleed a lot when bit. They have live births. I had a big female have 46 babies once. In Ohio, the ones I have caught on big bodies of water have mean temperaments and the ones away from water and on small ponds and creeks have been more docile. It's common to see a big female with 20 or more small males trying to breed her all at once in the Spring. It makes it very easy to catch a handful of them, if you don't mind getting bit.

Back when we could sell water snakes I caught hundreds. They never sold well, though they are easy to keep. Their poop stinks really bad, which probably hurt sales.

Keith
Posted By: Taximan

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 01:55 AM

I haven't looked but most States will have a site with all their reptiles and amphibians.I am sure he could go there and find it,quickly.If not,look up Northern Water snake.

Carl52,I want a cut of that $20,000!
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:02 AM

That looks nothing like a Copperhead. Similar to a Cottonmouth, but as already stated, a banded water snake.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:24 AM

im with the water snake crowd
Posted By: okcoonhunter

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:27 AM

This conversation had me laughing pretty hard. I first looked at the pic before reading the comments and after a glance said water snake. Then couldn’t believe all of the copperhead votes. Evidently they haven’t killed many copperheads. My mom and dad must have lived by a den. We killed about 15-20 a summer growing up. The head is what is the dead give away among other things. I’ll admit those dang water snakes have made me high step before taking a good look at them though. Have mistaken them for cottonmouths for a second or two.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
Copperhead just before shedding by the looks of it


not with round pupils and not hourglass markings
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Taximan
It is a Northern Water snake.


agreed
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by mississippiposse
Northern water snake. Common name around these parts is banded water snake


yep
Posted By: danvee

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:41 AM

Round pupils not venomous
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bucknuts
Definitely a venomous water snake. What we call a banded water snake.


no such thing as a venomous water snake, water snake family (colubridae) is non-venomous.
Posted By: cotton

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 03:11 AM

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don't like this copperhead to me
Posted By: Scout1

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
My son is a big time amatuer snake man. He says banded water snake.

Winner!
Posted By: SwampFox

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 06:46 AM

I believe it is a Northern Water Snake (Nerodia sipedon). Head shape, pattern, color and pupil. They are found throughout Arkansas (except they are not common in the Delta area). From the photo the head does not have the triangular "cut" of a pit viper and from what I can see in the photo the pupil looks round (not cat-like elliptical shape). I had a bunch of them as pets. Most were docile after being caught. Great hunters of frogs and fish.

God bless and happy trails, Swampfox
Posted By: Riverotter2

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 03:59 PM

It a Northern Water snake sometimes confused for a Southern Copperhead. The nearest look a like is a Brown Water snake.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 04:04 PM

Thank you all. I gave him your input. He didn't kill the snake.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Tom cat
I'm thinking copperhead. You can't always go by the head shape in my experience.


markings are opposite of copperhead, which is wide at the edges that touch ground and narrow in the middle across the back.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 07:38 PM

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Heres what the same species looked like after it tried to climb in my boat twice last year. I threw it out first time. Second time it started to climbed back in My little 380 pocket pistol changed his mind !!!!!!
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 07:40 PM

Guys its NOT a copper head. Round pupils are the Tell tell feature. NO poisonous snake in NORTH AMERICA has round pupils. Plus head is not flat and triangular enough.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
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My nephew just moved from here to Arkansas. He wanted verification. smile


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heres a copperhead
Posted By: l1ranger

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Guys its NOT a copper head. Round pupils are the Tell tell feature. NO poisonous snake in NORTH AMERICA has round pupils. Plus head is not flat and triangular enough.


https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/herpetology/fl-snakes/list/micrurus-fulvius/
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by l1ranger
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Guys its NOT a copper head. Round pupils are the Tell tell feature. NO poisonous snake in NORTH AMERICA has round pupils. Plus head is not flat and triangular enough.


https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/herpetology/fl-snakes/list/micrurus-fulvius/



Round eyes plain as day confirmed by Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles. Snopes said it was a fact it’s not a copper head.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: snake ID - 03/04/20 08:50 PM

Is florida in North America LOL !!! Forgot about that little critter. I stand corrected !!!!!

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