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Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE

Posted By: Canvasback2

Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:30 PM

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/h.../71-167d9b23-c847-4d5f-9279-270bcac25871
Posted By: nvwrangler

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:41 PM

the looting starts
Posted By: k snow

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:42 PM

"Redistribution" by force.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:43 PM

If a privately owned hospital refuse will the National guard shoot somebody?
Posted By: hippie

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:47 PM

Wait until they need our guns.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:50 PM

"borrow" ............
Posted By: Squash

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:53 PM

Yeah ,” the state is broke,” thanks to him and the rest of the NY democrates.
Posted By: Canvasback2

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:53 PM

If they can't return the equipment, they say they will pay to replace the equipment. That's all fine and dandy, but the Hospitals will still have to order the equipment . Things that could take Months to get shipped in. If someone needs to be on a ventilator, they need it now, not 2 Months from now.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 04:59 PM

You would think hospitals with a few in reserve would send that few to the city hospitals if they were paid for them. Maybe even if they are not. I am sure a few would not. Still curious if the NG intends to shoot administrators who refuse
Posted By: Catch22

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:01 PM

4 dead in Ohio NY. That article says NY is broke, well duh, look who's been running it.
Posted By: walleyed

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by nvwrangler
the looting starts



Yeah,

But who knew It was gonna be the government troops
with the guns who were gonna do all the looting.

I'm shocked & surprised by this development.

I thought the NYS SAFE ACT was designed to keep us
safe but It looks like we now will be out-gunned when
the Government comes to get our stuff.

Who'd have thunk It ? whistle

w
Posted By: The Possum Man

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by nvwrangler
the looting starts



Yeah,

But who knew It was gonna be the government troops
with the guns who were gonna do all the looting.

I'm shocked & surprised by this development.

I thought the NYS SAFE ACT was designed to keep us
safe but It looks like we now will be out-gunned when
the Government comes to get our stuff.

Who'd have thunk It ? whistle

w

Suddenly everyone realizes that an AR isnt as much gun as they thought they were when they start facing down belt feds and up armored vehicles. Remember civilians have ABSOLUTELY no need for full auto weapons.. lol
Posted By: Fisher Man

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:17 PM

The Guard should seize Cuomo!
Posted By: walleyed

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:23 PM

Yeah,

and we SAFE ACT "disarmed" New York Citizens

can't even own a functional "2nd string" AR-15,

Or even Joe Biden's infamous & deadly AR-14 !!! shocked

Load up !!!

w
Posted By: gutthooked

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:25 PM

I wonder how many are illegal immigrants , that the mayor requested ,are now victims of this epidemic.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:27 PM

People in the New York City metro area are obviously more important than the rest of the New York State residents.
Posted By: Canvasback2

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 05:34 PM

"The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution includes a provision known as the Takings Clause, which states that "private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation."

What good is payment for an item that you need, if there is nothing on the open market to replace it with ?
Posted By: nvwrangler

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
People in the New York City metro area are obviously more important than the rest of the New York State residents.


That's how I took this.
A small hospital ( 100 beds ) in a county with few to no cases still has to treat the population it has. I just bet when they do have cases the big city folks are going to rush those right back up. If you believe that will happen I have a great deal on a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 06:33 PM

They should be sent where needed when needed.
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
They should be sent where needed when needed.

I think they are needing $ also, you sending yours?
Posted By: Boco

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 06:51 PM

Yes ours are going where they are needed.
Never heard anyone asking for money here from citizens,just sacrifice as to social distancing.
Where are they asking citizens to send money?Is that whats going on in the USA?It is the opposite here-money going to citizens that are out of work and struggling.
Posted By: JTaddeo

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:05 PM

You boys and girls should reach out to your local health care institutions and sheriff(s) and offer "services" designed to ensure the safety and security of your local communities.

ENEMIES are not just at the gates....they're running things! These buffoons are not fit to lead anything but a chain gang cleaning up the berms of RT-90.

We'll see how it unfolds in PA.....

I wish you all well!
Posted By: JTaddeo

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
They should be sent where needed when needed.


You should POLITELY ASK when you are in NEED and if the answer is NO....then it's NO! Anything beyond that and you are an aggressor that needs dealt with properly...... PERIOD!
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:13 PM

I wonder what happened if a local militia were to organize at the hospitals to protect their supplies. It's not "if" an area will be affected by COVID-19, but more like "when." Like others have said, money won't do a kick of good I'd the supplies that are taken aren't available for purchase when they're finally needed by the upstate hospitals.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Fisher Man
The Guard should seize Cuomo!



The true heart of the problem and you can bet it won’t be his fault ever.
Posted By: jeff karsten

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:23 PM

so they're sending people from heavily infected areas to places of "minimal" infection and these places can go without Also says NYC is broke then he says they want federal money so they don't have to get it from other areas of the budget????
Posted By: Trapset

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:47 PM

The big city blows through tax revenue without putting away a proper amount of supplies to protect its citizens. Now the smaller towns that did the responsible thing are going to be forced to bale out the idiots. Who decides how many ventilators are enough for a small community?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by jeff karsten
so they're sending people from heavily infected areas to places of "minimal" infection and these places can go without Also says NYC is broke then he says they want federal money so they don't have to get it from other areas of the budget????



So Como needs a bigger teet to Supply all the teets he has created?
Posted By: TonawandaTrapper

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 08:17 PM

As a Western New Yorker this is completely unacceptable! My countryman we need to do something to stop this Tyranny! People in my community that will get sick are going to die.
Posted By: Mike in A-town

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by TonawandaTrapper
As a Western New Yorker this is completely unacceptable! My countryman we need to do something to stop this Tyranny! People in my community that will get sick are going to die.


Careful. If you start talking about defying "stay at home/social distancing" orders you could be branded a traitor to the human race.

Mike
Posted By: Squash

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
They should be sent where needed when needed.


Yes, I hope all of rural Canada is sending theirs to Toronto ?
Posted By: Mike in A-town

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Canvasback2
"The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution includes a provision known as the Takings Clause, which states that "private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation."

What good is payment for an item that you need, if there is nothing on the open market to replace it with ?


Haven't you heard? This is life or death... Constitutional rights don't matter.

Mike
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Trapset
The big city blows through tax revenue without putting away a proper amount of supplies to protect its citizens. Now the smaller towns that did the responsible thing are going to be forced to bale out the idiots. Who decides how many ventilators are enough for a small community?

Welcome to socialism
Posted By: scotts

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:18 PM

I wonder why they are not sending the patients to the equipment. Then you would get the equipment and the medical staff to run it.

There is the obvious risk of spreading it around, but hospitals seem pretty good at containment if they know what they are dealing with and have prep time.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:21 PM

Unfortunately, this may be just the beginning of this type of actions. If I was in a liberal infected kung flu area I would be leaving for a free state. I think soon we may be closing some state borders......

When the guard/military and law enforcement begin seizing ppe for themselves its going to get ugly. Reading a piece on Reuters that said the international bidding on ppe is wild with the USA paying 3-4x the prices other are.....some stuff is being seized in transit...or bought at higher rates before they unload it at airports.....then sent somewhere else.....
Posted By: rendezvous

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
People in the New York City metro area are obviously more important than the rest of the New York State residents.



Where does the most of his votes come from?
Posted By: Boco

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 09:51 PM

Are they ripping them away from people already on them and taking them?
Or are they using ones not being used for fellow human beings in need?
Posted By: Marty

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:03 PM

You can assume that every ventilator in any USA hospital that is not currently being used will be needed for use at that hospital before this is over....but if it is taken away it will not be there to be used.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
Are they ripping them away from people already on them and taking them?



Not yet.....
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:24 PM

I want to know if they going to shoot anybody. If not I bet some hospitals say no
Posted By: Boco

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:24 PM

So if you were dying because you needed one and the town down the road had 5 or 6 not being used,and they told your family-no you cant have it let him die-we might need them next week for someone maybe.
Some of you people are real piece of work.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:30 PM

I agree with Boco. I would have made the same order. Resources go where most needed. More ventilators are on the way, but right now it's obviously faster to grab the unused ones already in the system.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:41 PM

Every hospital in the USA will need every ventilator they have for the next 3+ months......maybe not right away but eventually. You take them and your denying someone the use of it.....you can be sure that no hospital in NYC will be returning any this year...

Sending the military to take local resources for use somewhere else is pretty messed up when any sane person knows that those resources will be needed fairly soon.......and once they are taken they are gone forever.....the spread of kung flu is inevitable....
Posted By: Elitebowman

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by rendezvous
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
People in the New York City metro area are obviously more important than the rest of the New York State residents.



Where does the most of his votes come from?

Most of the votes come from NYC. If Upstaters would get off their butts and vote, we might have a chance to get rid of Cuomo.
Posted By: David Morse

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:52 PM

Well Maybe all the respirators should come down from Canada AY. To save NYC people . What you say?ay . The ventilators need to stay in our LOCAL hospital even if it means ev3y person in NYC dies.
Posted By: GROUSEWIT

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
People in the New York City metro area are obviously more important than the rest of the New York State residents.


Well yes they are to Cuomo cause there his loyal liberal DEMONrats!!!! The rural people are conservatives.
Posted By: GROUSEWIT

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 11:02 PM

NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE!!! (RAHM EMANUEL)
Posted By: Fisher Man

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 11:05 PM

So now Cuomo tells us the state is broke and also that there is not enough ventilators, Just whose fault is that? Now they are shipping infected patients north out of the city.
The man thinks that he knows everything, an obvious dictator that only thinks people south of the Tappen Zee Bridge matter. I refuse to call that bridge the obnoxious name he gave it. Now there are those suggestions that he be drafted to replace Biden for Candidate for President. The man is a snake in the grass and one day I'll tell you how I really think!
Posted By: Marty

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 11:07 PM

Cuomo was advised that nys did not have enough ventilators 5-6 years ago by a state agency, he did nothing about that.....
Posted By: coyote44

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/03/20 11:13 PM

Cuomo is nothing but a complete Idiot. Let's start a war between downstate and upstate.
Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Boco
They should be sent where needed when needed.

Should and will are two different things. Meaning- WILL NYC send them back when the original owners need them?
Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Marty
Cuomo was advised that nys did not have enough ventilators 5-6 years ago by a state agency, he did nothing about that.....

That was the 9-11 Commission that stated NYC needed more ventilators to be prepared for catastrophe., and it was after SARS "if" I'm correct. No Governor since has heeded that advice. Instead spending on more popular issues to insure re-election.
Posted By: Rat_Pack

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 09:17 AM

Cuomo is probably the most dangerous politician in our entire country. Watch what he does during the pandemic here in NY, read about his leftist record, and know that if he ever decides to more farther up the ladder he'll bring his progressive, socialist agenda to rest of the nation.
Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 12:21 PM

NYC leadership causes problems.
Posted By: ponyboy

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 02:35 PM

Governor Coumo said, seizing respirators is like borrowing tools.

Anyone who has ever lent traps out knows how that works out.

Posted By: ponyboy

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 02:40 PM

Some of you guys don't have a problem lending out our respirators from western NY.

But, if some one wanted to seize "borrow" your traps you'd be singing a different tune.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 03:01 PM

I'm sure if Cuomo seized your guns he'd give them right back after this is over with.
Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: Cuomo sending in the Guard to seize PPE - 04/04/20 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
So if you were dying because you needed one and the town down the road had 5 or 6 not being used,and they told your family-no you cant have it let him die-we might need them next week for someone maybe.
Some of you people are real piece of work.

Boco, I desperately need to borrow your life savings and promise to return it, IF AND WHEN YOU NEED IT. my discretion of course. wink You must believe what your politicians feed to you?
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