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Spring bearhunt in Canada

Posted By: Miley

Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/19/20 09:04 PM

Still happening this year? See they extended the border crossing to “essential “.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/19/20 09:06 PM

Act of God;
no refunds.
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/19/20 09:29 PM

I’d bet it’s as good as toast.
Essential goods have been moving back and forth the whole time. I doubt any Canadian province is going to open their doors soon.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 12:49 AM

I know there are beaver trappers with full freezers full ready for those hunters bear baits. And nobody is calling them to get them

Next year the bears will be all that bigger.

It is going to be a tough time for many lodges with flying fishing.....are they going to fly in a plane with 10% of their passengers only booked that can come.
Posted By: Trapset

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 12:59 AM

Wonder if they will have some help for the camp owners and tourist industry in Canada. 0% loans or something, anyone hearing any talk about that?
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:22 AM

There has been many different assistance programs rolled out by our government to help business owners and employees. Like with everything there will be imperfections, but it’ll be a help.
Posted By: k9-hunter

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:38 AM

from what i understand all non resident is closed
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 03:31 AM

Those that guides in the summer will be hard hit. To get payments from C-19 work shut down you had to declaire at least 5000$ income. Those guys and waitresses that declaired their tips have over the threshold
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 03:34 AM

Looks like they will open the border about mid May. Hopefully...
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:09 PM

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Looks like they will open the border about mid May. Hopefully...


Where do you see that? They just extended the closure by 30 days and our gov said, "it will undoubtedly be longer before the restriction is removed."
Posted By: 160user

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:26 PM

We are hearing around June 1st at the earliest for Ontario. Our June 12th fly in trip will likely be cancelled.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Northof50
I know there are beaver trappers with full freezers full ready for those hunters bear baits. And nobody is calling them to get them

Next year the bears will be all that bigger.

It is going to be a tough time for many lodges with flying fishing.....are they going to fly in a plane with 10% of their passengers only booked that can come.

Bears might eat for free this year!
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Northof50
I know there are beaver trappers with full freezers full ready for those hunters bear baits. And nobody is calling them to get them

Next year the bears will be all that bigger.

It is going to be a tough time for many lodges with flying fishing.....are they going to fly in a plane with 10% of their passengers only booked that can come.

Bears might eat for free this year!
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:46 PM

I'm pretty sure any dates anyone are hearing are simply dates somebody made up and they are not coming from any person in a position of power. This is what Ontario is saying.

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Premier Doug Ford says Canada should immediately reject any request from U-S President Donald Trump to re-open the border to non-essential travellers.

Ford says the COVID-19 pandemic has not been sufficiently contained to warrant lifting restrictions aimed at containing spread of the coronavirus.

He made the comment when asked today about Trump's musing on re-opening the border.

Ford says Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should say no right away.


Trudeau says Canada is still a long way from being ready to agree to relaxing mutual travel restrictions.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by 160user
We are hearing around June 1st 2021 at the earliest for Ontario. Our June 12th fly in trip will likely be cancelled.


sorry Rob auto-correct.
And with your luck the walleye will have all grown out of the slot limit you can keep them in a years time.

The Ontario gov even wants to stop the Winnipeg traffic going to their cottages in NW Ontario.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by rvsask
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Looks like they will open the border about mid May. Hopefully...


Where do you see that? They just extended the closure by 30 days and our gov said, "it will undoubtedly be longer before the restriction is removed."

Originally Posted by rvsask
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Looks like they will open the border about mid May. Hopefully...


Where do you see that? They just extended the closure by 30 days and our gov said, "it will undoubtedly be longer before the restriction is removed."


Trump said it at the task force briefing. Said he had talked to Trudeau and they were thinking of opening it in 30 days. That was a few days ago....so about mid May. Going to be hard to keep people pinned down much longer. A small Washington town right on the Canadian border opened up last week. Everyone is going back to work there.
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 04/20/20 03:43 PM

Yes, and the day after he said that, we said this,
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Trudeau said his team is having conversations with the White House "all the time" about the two countries’ coordinated response and their shared friendship, but at this time those talks don’t include easing border constraints.

Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said on Thursday that the decision of when to lift restrictions will not be made unilaterally by the U.S.
Decisions about Canada’s border are taken by Canadians, full stop. When it comes to easing border restrictions of all kinds our government will only do that when it is appropriate and when it is not a risk to the health and security of Canadians."


I understand the wishful thinking, but unless case numbers south of the border are on the serious downswing in a month, we won't even consider it.
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 05/13/20 04:20 PM

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The Canada-U.S. border is expected to stay closed to non-essential travel until June 21 to safeguard citizens in both countries from the spread of COVID-19, according to sources with knowledge of the bilateral talks.

And that's a wrap on spring bear.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 05/13/20 05:18 PM

Buy American go for a US bear then.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 05/13/20 05:41 PM

Ive been watching this closely because our business ( fishing lodge, and trapping trips) relies on people from around the world getting here. I was optimistic in the beginning but not anymore...the insanity has gone to a new level. Currently we have lost at least half our summer and it looks like we will lose it all. If they do open in June we might salvage a few trips though.

Heres my take on what you should expect: A good outfitter will let you roll your trip over to next year with no extra cost. I know they are not all doing that. I've heard some horror stories ...like outfitters asking for full payment now, then if you cant come they want to charge you a 25% fee to come next year. That is just wrong and those outfitters will pay in the long run and probably go broke. I usually send out final invoices in April. I didnt this year, still havent. Every single client that we had booked called or emailed and asked us if they cant come this year if they could roll their trip over to next year. They called us, I didnt call them. The bottom line is you should not have to pay more to roll your trip over. Deposits are NOT refundable in most cases, and there are many good reasons for this. Also an outfitter might already have bookings for the next year so you might not get the same dates but thats just part of the mess we are in. I highly recommend cancelation insurance...Global Rescure signature is one of the very best.

Keep in mind that this covid deal has put all of us outfitters in a real bind. Typically we get paid once a year, and this year it doesn't look like we will get paid at all, and we still have expenses to pay. Going to be a lot of outfitters go under no doubt about that. I just hope when its over you guys will be ready to get out and hunt, fish and trap north of the border. While we are far from wealthy, we will be able to weather the storm, and will be open for business next year and hopefully even this winter on the trapline trips. I've gotten more business from Trapperman than any other place, and myself and my family thank you all for the business over the years. Hope you all have a healthy and prosperous summer.

The O'Farrell clan
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 05/13/20 08:13 PM

What is interesting is Canadian stimulus moneys is directed to earned income in 2018 tax records, based on earning over 5000$. Hopefully the hired help includes their tips when filing 2019 taxes. Because of the restrictions of travel north of 60 is going to be tight for quite awhile.
Posted By: Greg / MO

Re: Spring bearhunt in Canada - 05/13/20 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by yukon254
Ive been watching this closely because our business ( fishing lodge, and trapping trips) relies on people from around the world getting here. I was optimistic in the beginning but not anymore...the insanity has gone to a new level. Currently we have lost at least half our summer and it looks like we will lose it all. If they do open in June we might salvage a few trips though.

Heres my take on what you should expect: A good outfitter will let you roll your trip over to next year with no extra cost. I know they are not all doing that. I've heard some horror stories ...like outfitters asking for full payment now, then if you cant come they want to charge you a 25% fee to come next year. That is just wrong and those outfitters will pay in the long run and probably go broke. I usually send out final invoices in April. I didnt this year, still havent. Every single client that we had booked called or emailed and asked us if they cant come this year if they could roll their trip over to next year. They called us, I didnt call them. The bottom line is you should not have to pay more to roll your trip over. Deposits are NOT refundable in most cases, and there are many good reasons for this. Also an outfitter might already have bookings for the next year so you might not get the same dates but thats just part of the mess we are in. I highly recommend cancelation insurance...Global Rescure signature is one of the very best.

Keep in mind that this covid deal has put all of us outfitters in a real bind. Typically we get paid once a year, and this year it doesn't look like we will get paid at all, and we still have expenses to pay. Going to be a lot of outfitters go under no doubt about that. I just hope when its over you guys will be ready to get out and hunt, fish and trap north of the border. While we are far from wealthy, we will be able to weather the storm, and will be open for business next year and hopefully even this winter on the trapline trips. I've gotten more business from Trapperman than any other place, and myself and my family thank you all for the business over the years. Hope you all have a healthy and prosperous summer.

The O'Farrell clan


Awesome post. I'll pull up your website in a bit after dinner and see what you guys have to offer.
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