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POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine

Posted By: beeman

POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 09:56 PM

Trump Claims He’s Experimenting With Hydroxychloroquine On Himself

President Donald Trump says he’s been taking hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malarial drug his administration has touted as a potential treatment for the coronavirus pandemic. The Food and Drug Administration has warned against its use in COVID-19 cases except in formal studies, citing serious heart risk.
Posted By: white marlin

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:02 PM

His body, his Choice.

hmmmm...
Posted By: Macthediver

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:06 PM

Who really cares? He says and does pretty much what ever he wants. Might be true might not.

Mac
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:12 PM

He had his Dr. prescribe it to him as a preventative because there is a study ongoing
that is showing promise for that , there are other countries doing the same .
.GOV
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:20 PM

He's just trying to help his fellow man, leading the way.
Posted By: Co�s

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:25 PM

I'm taking Miller high Life, Jameson and hand rolled cigarettes. Haven't caught covid yet.
Posted By: YamaCat

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:28 PM

My friend, a nurse, has been taking it for 8 years. Pretty sure the side-effects are already documented.
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by beeman
Trump Claims He’s Experimenting With Hydroxychloroquine On Himself

President Donald Trump says he’s been taking hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malarial drug his administration has touted as a potential treatment for the coronavirus pandemic. The Food and Drug Administration has warned against its use in COVID-19 cases except in formal studies, citing serious heart risk.


They talked about this today on talk radio. Seems some highly trusted doctors have found the hydroxychloroquine should be taken during the first stage of covid. It stops the replication of the virus. If the virus gets to the 2nd stage of covid, it's to late, you need some steroid. It seems to show promise, but the beurocrats are dragging their feet either beacaue they can get more money if they let it go to a more dangerous stage. The drugs are cheap and hospitals are not. It's either money or politics that is preventing doctors from administering the hydrox.
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 10:50 PM

This drug is already out there, no money in that.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 11:51 PM

There is thousands taking it for arthritis and I have never saw in the papers it was killing people in vast amounts unlike some of their other arthritis medicine (vioxx). Also they said for all those taking it for lupus or arthritis to continue taking it. Seems if it was all that bad why let them continue taking it. I heard somewhere that maybe it was harder on people to take it after they had the virus. Thus the President is taking it before he gets it.

Back earlier a arthritis Dr on tv on news said none of his patients at that time that was on it had gotten the virus, wish there was some studies on that. About all I see is how many test they are taking and how many positives there is. Which mean nothing to me because the more they test the more there is, test less and there would be less. News said this morning that some test may be wrong esp. false negatives. I guess the truth is the daughter of time!
Posted By: walleye101

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/18/20 11:59 PM

I've been testing myself for Covid every day. They say one of the symptoms is loss of taste and smell, so I pop open a Grain Belt Premium every so often throughout the day to make sure I'm still ok.
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 12:08 AM

Been trying to self-test sense of taste and smell on a daily basis for some time now by utilizing flatus events. I have determined that I either have the virus, or mine, indeed, do not stink, as I have always asserted...
Posted By: Co�s

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by 52Carl
Been trying to self-test sense of taste and smell on a daily basis for some time now by utilizing flatus events. I have determined that I either have the virus, or mine, indeed, do not stink, as I have always asserted...


I don't want to know how you test taste with this method.
Posted By: Nessmuck

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by 52Carl
Been trying to self-test sense of taste and smell on a daily basis for some time now by utilizing flatus events. I have determined that I either have the virus, or mine, indeed, do not stink, as I have always asserted...


I just let one fly....and everyone in the house is complaining and that I should live outside....guess they are Covid free...
Posted By: bblwi

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 12:38 AM

My co-worker at the tech college we taught at has been taking this drug for 30 plus years ever since her lupus diagnosis. She has always had a ton of side effects but she is on a huge battery of medications so it is difficult to state which ones are specifically caused by a single drug. Right after the first mention of this product there was a huge run on this drug and her and others (my sister-in-law) takes this for arthritis as well were concerned about availability and or price rises. That subsided but we will see what happens now that this has become an issue again.

Bryce
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by walleye101
I've been testing myself for Covid every day. They say one of the symptoms is loss of taste and smell, so I pop open a Grain Belt Premium every so often throughout the day to make sure I'm still ok.


Hurrah! At least one TM member relies on science to make his decisions!
Posted By: Boco

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 01:12 AM

Ole Trumpy survived Stormy Daniels(cant imagine what she was carrying),a little covid or chloroquinine wont hurt him.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 01:25 AM

I bet the MSM is having a coronary over this.
Posted By: white marlin

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 01:25 AM

and Trudeau's face eventually faded to white...
Posted By: gutthooked

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 01:50 AM

A lady I work with has been taking it for a decade or so for her lupus. She ain't died yet from it or had any side effects from it.
Posted By: fossil2

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 02:26 AM

my brother in law takes it daily for arthritis in his hands. his wife was the first covid positive in their county, and she spent 12 nights in the hospital in Rochester, and was one day out from being put on a ventilator, so she was seriously ill. 10 doses of remdesivir fixed her up, but no way her husband wasn't in contact with covid for at least 2 weeks. he never caught it, and never tested positive. no reason other than the chloroquine that he wasn't infected.
Posted By: hippie

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 10:09 AM

Id take it if I thought I came in contact with the virus.
Posted By: pcr2

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 11:15 AM

no different than me taking viagra to keep from rollin outta bed.
Posted By: walleye101

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I bet the MSM is having a coronary over this.


So some of the side effects are positive.
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 11:47 AM

I figured he had been taking it for a couple months. Proven and safe drug.
Posted By: Osky

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 01:23 PM

Hydroxy.. Was one of the drugs the UofM tried with me on a disease that struck me 15 years ago. The drug was treated very matter of factly and considered no big deal, a very safe drug.
The way this drug was instantly downplayed and belittled by so many politicians, media, and others has me convinced this "crisis" is not about the health and welfare of Americans.

Osky
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 01:44 PM

The effectiveness of it to prevent covid was stumbled on in China. ZERO people that had been taking it for other ailments got sick from covid. Some Dr tried it in a study on people already effected and due to weakened heart function because of fluid some died. THUS the talk it kills people.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Osky
Hydroxy.. Was one of the drugs the UofM tried with me on a disease that struck me 15 years ago. The drug was treated very matter of factly and considered no big deal, a very safe drug.
The way this drug was instantly downplayed and belittled by so many politicians, media, and others has me convinced this "crisis" is not about the health and welfare of Americans.

Osky


The big reason this drug was vilified in the press and by politicians with a D after name is because Trump suggested it.

it's been around a long time and proven effective with few side effects.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 02:34 PM

Saw Nancy P. in an interview with Pierce Morgan. She stated that Trump taking this drug was too dangerous for a sitting president, especially Trump since he was so "morbidly obese". I wondered if it would be dangerous for her to take it since she's so "morbidly ugly"?
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
Saw Nancy P. in an interview with Pierce Morgan. She stated that Trump taking this drug was too dangerous for a sitting president, especially Trump since he was so "morbidly obese". I wondered if it would be dangerous for her to take it since she's so "morbidly ugly"?


Lol, another reason I like the mask thing.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Saw Nancy P. in an interview with Pierce Morgan. She stated that Trump taking this drug was too dangerous for a sitting president, especially Trump since he was so "morbidly obese". I wondered if it would be dangerous for her to take it since she's so "morbidly ugly"?


Lol, another reason I like the mask thing.


Good point!
grin
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 03:04 PM

I don't think this thread went the direction the OP was hoping ,
here's an article that points out that during the first SARS outbreak in 2013 ( covid -19 is the 2nd )
someone had a different opinion on Hydroxychloroquine , Fauci
Posted By: Dean Chapel

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 03:05 PM

Chlooroqine has alot more side effects and problems than does hydroxychoroquine.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Art S
I don't think this thread went the direction the OP was hoping ,
here's an article that points out that during the first SARS outbreak in 2013 ( covid -19 is the 2nd )
someone had a different opinion on Hydroxychloroquine , Fauci


Fauci originally predicted 40M Americans would die as a result of Covid19. He keeps changing the number. Sometimes his reliability is questionable.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 04:22 PM

Sometimes? Fauci's credibility is shot as far as I'm concerned.
Posted By: rvsask

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 04:23 PM

Quote
His body, his Choice.

hmmmm...


But that's only applicable logic when you want it to be. grin
Posted By: rex123

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 04:25 PM

It is only in the news because Trump is taking it.
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 04:44 PM

Fauci sits on the leadership council of the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation .conflict of interest ?
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Art S
Fauci sits on the leadership council of the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation .conflict of interest ?


He's made it clear he has high praise for Hillary.
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 05:00 PM

He certainly is a Hillary fan but I don't see how he has a conflict of interest because he is on a committee at the Gates Foundation. What am I missing ?
Posted By: Grandpa Trapper

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
Saw Nancy P. in an interview with Pierce Morgan. She stated that Trump taking this drug was too dangerous for a sitting president, especially Trump since he was so "morbidly obese". I wondered if it would be dangerous for her to take it since she's so "morbidly ugly"?


She has room to talk with all her plastic surgeries.
Posted By: hippie

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by white17
He certainly is a Hillary fan but I don't see how he has a conflict of interest because he is on a committee at the Gates Foundation. What am I missing ?


Gates wants to vaccinate everyone, so the worse this pandemic the better for him?
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 06:01 PM

Why would you conclude that ? He isn't making anything from this. He is, in fact, spending hundreds of millions of his own money to support research into at least 7...if I remember correctly...different possible vaccines....all from different publicly owned companies.

In addition, he has put up another 250 million to help build a production facility to produce whatever drug is shown to be successful..........if any.

Sounds like a huge risk to me.
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lugnut
Sometimes? Fauci's credibility is shot as far as I'm concerned.

I agree with you there.
Posted By: hippie

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by white17
Why would you conclude that ? He isn't making anything from this. He is, in fact, spending hundreds of millions of his own money to support research into at least 7...if I remember correctly...different possible vaccines....all from different publicly owned companies.

In addition, he has put up another 250 million to help build a production facility to produce whatever drug is shown to be successful..........if any.

Sounds like a huge risk to me.


Just guessing, can't think of a better reason.

There could be lots of money in it if he would somehow control the vaccines for the world.

I'm also guessing that's all a write-off for him.

Posted By: CajunMan

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 06:26 PM

I don't see what the Fake News Media is crying about. Seems like as much as they hate Trump they would be glad he's taking it in the hopes it would kill him. Cant make those libtards happy for nothing!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 06:33 PM

OOPS I was off subject!
Posted By: charles

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 06:50 PM

Since taking Lysol and Clorox, the ring in my toilet bowl has disappeared.
Posted By: ratbrain

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by charles
Since taking Lysol and Clorox, the ring in my toilet bowl has disappeared.


LMAO!
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by white17
Why would you conclude that ? He isn't making anything from this. He is, in fact, spending hundreds of millions of his own money to support research into at least 7...if I remember correctly...different possible vaccines....all from different publicly owned companies.

In addition, he has put up another 250 million to help build a production facility to produce whatever drug is shown to be successful..........if any.

Sounds like a huge risk to me.


Just guessing, can't think of a better reason.

There could be lots of money in it if he would somehow control the vaccines for the world.

I'm also guessing that's all a write-off for him.



Actually there isn't much money in vaccines at all. That's why pharmaceutical companies spend more time and research dollars on drugs for cancer or other really insidious stuff. Most vaccines sell (wholesale) for between 10-30 bucks a pop.

The ones that are currently in the clinical trial stages for CV19 will be donated by their developers..............EXCEPT for the one being worked on by Moderna. They haven't said what they will charge. But until a drug is successful, no one is going to make any money.

Even if you controlled all the vaccines, where does your revenue come from after everyone has immunity ?

I am sure that his donations through the foundation are a tax write off.But that really doesn't matter when you have already agreed to give away all 106 BILLION of your wealth to charity.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 07:45 PM

Lady asked at the funeral, How much did he leave? The other lady replied all of it!
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 07:49 PM

Gates is maybe in it for the chip in the forehead plan???..
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Gates is maybe in it for the chip in the forehead plan???..



What worries me is if one is required to get the vaccine before returning to work, school, etc. Then how can they verify that they have had the vaccine, By paper work ? We all know how that gets lost or forged and people in general hate paper work even electronically. So someone will get the idea of a chip under your skin and that will be when people refuse the vaccine. Except those that must have a job or buy and sell at the market.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Coös
I'm taking Miller high Life, Jameson and hand rolled cigarettes. Haven't caught covid yet.



Same
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/19/20 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Gates is maybe in it for the chip in the forehead plan???..



LOL !! Right ! laugh
Posted By: charles

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/20/20 05:20 PM

The drug is so old it is surely a generic now.
Posted By: hippie

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/20/20 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Gates is maybe in it for the chip in the forehead plan???..



What worries me is if one is required to get the vaccine before returning to work, school, etc. Then how can they verify that they have had the vaccine, By paper work ? We all know how that gets lost or forged and people in general hate paper work even electronically. So someone will get the idea of a chip under your skin and that will be when people refuse the vaccine. Except those that must have a job or buy and sell at the market.


10 states are already violating hipaa laws by giving law enforcement the names of people who have the virus. They won't give out any other medical issues like Aids, but there seems to be enough people willing to overlook our freedoms now that laws don't mean squat

Sad deal and you don't have to look far to see the people who are empowering the destruction of our rights.
Posted By: hippie

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/20/20 05:36 PM

AND, wouldn't these apps that tell you if you get close to someone infected also be a violation?

maybe this is why Gates is buddying up to the career gov't officials.
Posted By: SNIPERBBB

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/20/20 05:50 PM

Just a little bit about cloroquin...it's basically synthetic quinine. You know, the stuff in tonic water.
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/20/20 07:23 PM

I thought gin came in tonic, learn something new everyday.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/20/20 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I thought gin came in tonic, learn something new everyday.


grin
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by white17
He certainly is a Hillary fan but I don't see how he has a conflict of interest because he is on a committee at the Gates Foundation. What am I missing ?

Sorry I took so long to answer , but here's 100,000,000 reasons .Armstrong Economics
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 04:02 PM

What does a man who has more money than 6-7 generations of his can spend ?
Prestige .
If he " cures " the world with his vaccines , he won't be the only one who thinks he's some kind of God .
It's not always about the money .
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Art S
Originally Posted by white17
He certainly is a Hillary fan but I don't see how he has a conflict of interest because he is on a committee at the Gates Foundation. What am I missing ?

Sorry I took so long to answer , but here's 100,000,000 reasons .Armstrong Economics



Unfortunately Art, the article loses all credibility when it says........" It is Gates who wants to inject us all with microchips.." And.............."these people typically also OWN the SEC"


Armstrong:

"Martin Arthur Armstrong (born November 1, 1949) is an American self-taught[1] economic forecaster and convicted felon who spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.[1] "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong



Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 04:41 PM

I posted that article to show Gates gave the money to NIH not to promote a chip conspiracy .
How about this one , no mention of chips
You can argue that there is no globalist / nationalist conflict going on , but that would be a different discussion .
Warning , the article is from a right leaning site , doesn't change the fact that Fauci is saying
a vaccine is our only hope .
Has there ever been a flu vaccine that was 100 percent effective ? <--- Real question .
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 05:07 PM

To my knowledge there is no flu vaccine that is 100 % effective....but I don't think that is necessary. A certain percentage of protection would help a great deal. There ARE vaccines that are 100% so it's not out of the realm of possibility. Realistically, I doubt that will happen.

Gates actually gave only 20 million to WHO and 20 million to CDC.The other 60 million went to CEPI.

I'm no fan of Fauci at all. He has clearly said a lot of contradictory things. On the other hand, what we know, or think we know, about the virus is constantly changing. So I would have to cut any medical researcher some slack. They certainly know more than I do.

What I don't understand is the movement to demonize Bill Gates. It seems to me that he is trying to help while in no way trying to benefit personally. He is actually trying to give away his fortune, not make more money.

I don't believe there is any globalist agenda at work here. Some geopolitical actors will certainly take advantage of any perceived weaknesses.

I do believe that Fauci has a political view of this and it's pretty obvious that blue state governors are only trying to make things worse.......for political reasons. IMO
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Art S
I posted that article to show Gates gave the money to NIH not to promote a chip conspiracy .
How about this one , no mention of chips
You can argue that there is no globalist / nationalist conflict going on , but that would be a different discussion .
Warning , the article is from a right leaning site , doesn't change the fact that Fauci is saying
a vaccine is our only hope .
Has there ever been a flu vaccine that was 100 percent effective ? <--- Real question .



In response to the other link just above.

This is from the article;

"The truth is that President Donald Trump is locked in an intense power struggle with Bill Gates, who is pushing his vaccines, which may not be available to the public until after November’s election. "


Bill Gates has no vaccines. He owns no patents on vaccines. The fact is that he purchases millions of doses of existing vaccines and donates them to poorer areas of the world.

Just an observation about the origins of your link.

National File is closely associated with Alex Jones and Info Wars. To me, that equals conspiracy theory stuff.
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 05:40 PM

I think we agree more than disagree ,I'm not trying to demonize Gates if that's what it seems ,
Just trying to point out there is a conflict when it comes to Fauci calling the shots .
If the mainstream media actually investigated and weren't so anti anything Trump
I wouldn't be posting secondary sites .
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 05:58 PM

I understand you aren't demonizing Gates . But there clearly is a large effort to promote untrue stuff about the guy. What I don't understand is WHY ?? Envy is the only answer I can come up with.

I still don't think Fauci has a conflict. He is a government employee. If Gates or anyone else allocates money to CDC or NIH Fauci's paycheck stays the same. I WON'T be surprised to see him retire and take a job at CNN or MSNBC at a much higher salary. But that won't have anything to do with Gates.

I agree with you about the MSM but there are still a lot of avenues for fairly reliable information available without going to the dark side laugh
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 06:12 PM

Those were the first 2 I found that didn't require a subscription ,
there was one from Forbes if you look it up .
Google is actively banning / removing anything that goes against the official narrative so those
probably won't be there for long .
As far as Fauci's pay not changing , kickbacks are real and very commonplace ,
not stating that that is happening without proof , but just saying .
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 06:35 PM

I have never found Forbes to NOT have a political point of view. It's a a lot different publication than it was in the 1960's

Google is wholly untrustworthy IMO

I would be super amazed to find kickbacks where Gates is involved. Fauci maybe, but not Gates
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 06:49 PM

I said Fauci , one post up .
What on earth could anyone offer Gates as a kickback ?
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 06:54 PM

LOL TRUE.

I was assuming that you meant Fauci might be taking kickbacks from Gates. I don't see that as likely
Posted By: Art S

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 07:03 PM

Me either ,
but this whole thing stinks of a political stench ,
not saying the virus isn't real , but the response sure has been .
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 07:12 PM

lots of questions and questionable behaviors
Posted By: HayDay

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 07:40 PM

Purpose of vaccine is to trick body into developing antibodies to fight the virus. Getting sick and getting better also develops antibodies.

Dr. Birx was on TV today and mentioned that there are a lot of people who might be walking around that are asymptomatic and shedding virus, so would be a threat to us all. She had a bunch of other statistics too, which at this point are nice to know.....looking backwards to see how far off they have been.

What she didn't say, and nobody seems to know......is how many people.....just like the one's she was describing, have already been sick....recovered and never even knew they were sick. Those folks now have the antibodies, do not need a vaccine and are no longer a threat to themselves or anyone else.

What somebody in charge ought to be doing puking up is some statistics on antibody tests. At this state in the game, it is the only thing that matters.

What if upwards of 50% of the population has already been vaccinated by the virus itself?
Posted By: white17

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 07:50 PM

One problem is that we do not at this point know whether the antibodies provide any protection at all, and if they do, for how long .

I think, based on what little I understand about the biology of any virus, and our bodies, it would be unusual if SOME amount of immunity was not generated by having the illness. But how long does it take to acquire that immunity, what degree of immunity does it provide, and how long does it last ?
Posted By: HayDay

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 08:06 PM

I've also heard the tests are bad.......and granted, some of them probably are. But at least 5 have been approved by the FDA......and for monitoring the general population......accurate enough.

But as for the validity of the tests.......if a large number of folks have the antibodies.......it means the virus itself is not a threat to the overall population at large. Birx herself just today was showing numbers from the most heavily affected communities, and except for one local in NJ, most of them were 5% or less. That isn't enough threat to continue tanking the economy. Stock market rallied nearly 3% in one day earlier this week on announcement that a bio company had tested a vaccine and nobody (100%) did not get sick or have any adverse reactions. Buried deep was the fact that only 8 of 45 .....less than 20%.....had developed antibodies. Are those antibodies any different than what the virus itself develops?

So in all the noise about "RIGHTS" (constitutional)......what ought be argued is right......as in right and wrong. If a significant % of any population already has the antibodies.......then there is no justification for keeping things locked down. Things can be safely opened up.......as in wide open.

Unless a politician has an agenda to follow........tanking the economy on purpose. But that will be on them and it will be found out.
Posted By: HayDay

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/22/20 08:09 PM

BTW, if it proves to be only 10%......or 80%.....in either case it matters. But what really matters is to know which. At this point in the game, nothing, absolutely nothing is more important.
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: POTUS Taking Hydroxychloroquine - 05/25/20 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by charles
Since taking Lysol and Clorox, the ring in my toilet bowl has disappeared.


We flush our toilets in the north and clean them to avoid the ring.
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