Anarchist question

I dont really understand anarchy but a guy I work with says he is an anarchist but told me today he doesn't own a gun. Is that normal. It just seems odd to me that someone who Hope's for a lawless world wouldn't have anyway to protect his family.

Maybe his meatloaf isn't done clear to the center?

Being an anarchist only sounds good if you have never experienced it. Perhaps his plan is to cower before the toughest dude in the neighborhood and pledge his allegiance because that's the only way he would survive.

I think most anarchists seriously believe that without laws everything would be perfect and people would ride around on unicorns and everyone would be nice to each other.

Anarchists are all about destroying the existing government in order to establish the government they want, usually one with them in charge. No successful anarchist remains an anarchist.

It's an ideology Trap Setter, not a well though out plan as you're thinking.
Anarchists believe in a system, not a future.

Ask the guy at work what he would have as the outcome of his envisioned anarchy? But don't be surprised if he isn't specific. Most anarchists fight for a cause, not a plan on the back end.

They are now calling the American revolutionaries "anarchists," but that isn't accurate because "anarchy" means you believe that no governing body is the way society rules itself, and the colonials wanted to establish their own governance free from Great Britain. The colonials were certainly not anarchists.

Most anarchists really aren't anarchists. They're closet Marxists in reality. The term anarchocommunists is used a lot in those circles. Which makes no sense.

lol
his elevator doesnt reach the top floor

True!

sounds about right

does he lack forethought in everything else he does also ?

Not sure greencounty I am on light duty right now he a warehouse guy so I dont see him much normally.

Maybe he is a couple tater tots short of a Sonic # 2 meal

Our little church has a missionary we try to sponsor in Liberia- read that countries history and it will spell out the problem with anarchy and remaining an anarchist for long.

As a concept, it is every bit as flawed as socialism in a country bountiful in recourses like Venezuela who's citizens went from wealthy to hijacking trucks full of spam and red beans in less than a decade

Or, so slow he has to speed up to stop?

I'm hearing and reading more about these people. Most, if not all, are clueless. It's just the current cool thing to be.

anarchy= "Any fool can tear down a house"

I think there are many different forms of Anarchism and you really need to ask a lot of questions before you understand exactly what somebody means when they are talking about their type of Anarchism. It seems that some Anarchists are only for the complete elimination of any societal order and want to institute a condition of chaos. But those types are usually young fools.

Other types of Anarchists oppose a central government and favor order by voluntary, local participation over a central authority governing by force. I think they imagine something like the old Greek, city-states. Or, maybe like American Indian tribes and cultures before the European discovery of the "new world".

Anyway, not all Anarchists wish to see a state of total chaos. I think they just want societal order accomplished by a different means. I never bothered to think much about whether they are right or wrong, or the consequences of their beliefs. I just know that sometimes we don't fully understand what Anarchists really think until we really explore what they are talking about.

yup they are disgusted with Dems and Reps but rather than choosing another option or putting effort into starting their own. they Declare themselves Anarchists they are against all!
while all they really do is show up on time enough and work enough to keep their job so that they can keep living in the capitalist world and afford a case of beer , a bottle and a fish fry or pizza out with their wife or girl friend.

never stopping to think that anarchy would ruin all those things.

reminds me some of the Nihilist in the Big Lebowski

ni·hil·ist
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noun
a person who believes that life is meaningless and rejects all religious and moral principles.
"it is impossible to argue against a nihilist"
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a supporter of an extreme Russian revolutionary party c. 1900 which found nothing to approve of in the established social order.

it also generally reminds me of a story

This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have.

The story may be confusing but the message is clear: no one took responsibility so nothing got accomplished.

It reminds me of Lord of the Flies

Another thing about the anarchist is the the same story for about every group. It could be Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, socialists, communists, etc. People get drawn to particular popular stance like unions for democrats and pot for libertarians and that's all they know. They don't look at the rest of positions of the group and probably don't agree with a tenth of what the group represents. They are just there for the cookies.

Showed him a video of the autonomous zone and he says... that is what scares me about being an anarchist. Lol he starts going on about how the police should arrest all those people to protect the citizens. Lol

Want to have a good time? Join Anicapistan on facebook if it hasnt been shutdown yet.
The anarcho-capitalist debate room.

I always thought anarchist was just another word for target. Learn something new every day.

Depends on yhe anarchist but many are just another name for libertarians.

There is a pyrson posting from the Capital Hill Autonomous Zone who advocates not only anarchism but also an end to civilization. I wonder how they figure that will workout?

Please don't chastise me for my spelling of person. That is direct from zer Facebook page profile where the individual describes ximself as a lesbian anarchist. I probably messed it up by using the word individual as I really don't understand the pronouns they use. Pyrson, zer, ximself are not words I learned when I was in school.

Anyway, they need vegan food because the homeless people took all their food the first night. I'm going to donate them some spuds as soon as they are ready to dig. See if they make that long.

It reminds me of our senate and house of representatives! Everyone just passes the buck!

Do you really think so? Most of my libertarians are "leave me alone & I leave you alone". The anarchists are the people who want to cram their bs down everyone's craw, undermine everything that made this country great. To met that is a lib or progressive if you prefer.

Alot of them is really thinking of socialism ,but they do not have a clue on any and what the out come will be. The old saying watch what you wish for , you might just get it and will not turn out the way you think it will. If they seen how it was in the 1920's then they will have a idea for how it could be but more advance now then it was then because of what the tools they have today.

I wonder if its time for a reboot of our nation while we still have one. Before we are owned by the Chinese

Has a rip in his marble bag.

Shoot Hippie, in this day and age he might have had that marble bag surgically emptied reformed into an innie LOL

There are a lot of pacifist anarchists. The media portrayal of anarchists is pretty absurd. Antifa is not an anarchist group, they're a totalitarian group. There is no good form of government, which is why I lean more heavily towards anarchism in my political philosophy these days. Anarchism has it's own problems as well though. Here's an anarchist site I've been checking out the past few days:

The Bad Roman

Yup....everyone for themselves based on their own merit.

This guy gets it.

It's going to be hard to trap during an anarchist rule.

Individual liberty and freedom propelling a capitalist system has now generated wealth for more people in a shorter span of time than in all of human history. Not too shabby, especially as you adjust your AC and plug in your IPhone as your Whole Foods order gets deliver by Amazon.
Capitalism and America aren't perfect but generations of my family here in America are doing much, much better in the land of plenty than the potato famine era in Europe they came from 200 years ago, I promise you.

And why are so many trying so desperately to get the our shores? That's an entirely different topic.

Nate, I suspect you're younger than many on TMan, so rest assured, with age comes experience, and in some cases wisdom.

Again......Anarcho-CAPITALISM.

Pure capitalism.

I remember many moons ago during a liberal slanted philosophy course I took at the University of Michigan (it was required), one of the professors made a stand against capitalism during class and said something to the effect; "The problem with capitalism is that people are involved!"

I got to thinking afterward, "Ya, viva la revolution!"
Wait a minute.
People are involved in everything aren't they?

I should have raised my hand during class more.

Yep, young and indoctrinated. Everything against American, but claim they're American. Either too naive or stupid to realize they're cutting their own throat. They actually believe there will be a beautiful balance, utopia, when they don't even take the time and raise their heads to see what's playing out live for them on the worlds stage. It's nothing short of a shame.

There's a "teacher" at a JuCo in Nebraska that says anybody who doesn't have a 4 yr college degree has no business entering into a discussion of any kind. He claims to be an expert on love and relationships, yet his wife divorced him, the love of his life dumped him, he's single and admittedly cries himself to sleep at night. And, he gets a weekly column published in the local newspaper. A real piece of work. Oh, and his Son died of alcohol poisoning.

There are many progressives who have a hard case to argue, that man, given enough time, and resources, will achieve utopia on earth (their thesis).
He sounds like one of them.

Sounds more like communism. Honestly pure communism sounds fantastic.....however humans would screw it up. Capitalism helps take the human element out.

Progressive?! I'm anything but progressive. Anarchists are generally for FREE MARKETS (Capitalism is a word coined by Karl Marx, so I try not to use it). Our current system is anything but a free market. Government colludes with corporations to make laws keeping the little guy down. That's when they aren't overregulating and creating their own monopolies. A Constitutional Republic is a workable system if you have a population that is ethical/moral. I think it's been very evident in my lifetime that the Constitution is generally being ignored or gone around. But it's happened before that, and all three branches are responsible.

I think you should be careful making assumptions. I'm not even close to progressive. Democrats are insane, and Republicans are spineless and rarely take a stand for anything that matters (but they'll sure talk a lot about it so you'll vote for them). I voted for Cruz in the last Republican primary and voted for Darrell Castle in the main event. I have come to see the light since then. Voting doesn't really matter when the majority of the country is stuck in a binary mindset. You get a choice between bad and worse. I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils, and I'm tired of government intrusion into every facet of my life. There is NO form of government that will work when the culture has rotted away this far. Good luck fixing anything by voting.

I did a research paper on Anarchism in school. Ideologies are varied, but your middle paragraph is about the closest summary to the true nature of Anarchism. It isn't a state of lawlessness where might makes right.

This country, at its inception, was about the closest thing to true Anarchism that mankind could muster.

Mike

WisCoNate,

You error in calling me out sir. I did not name you as as a progressive as I made a blanket statement about ideology. You are not the "he" of my submission, in that sense, because I was referencing the college prof in a previous post.

I have no idea what ideology you hold.
We should all remember, when viewing most online submissions, there isn't 93% of the human interaction made available to us; body language, tone of voice, and eye contact. You only get to process 7% = words.

Sorry for any confusion.