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Posted By: yotetrapper30

Hate Crime - 07/08/20 12:06 PM

So let me get this straight. You can topple statues all over the country, and spray paint everything from war memorials, to statues, to public and private businesses, to streets and none of that is a hate crime, but this is?????




A White man and a White woman who allegedly painted over a California community's Black Lives Matter mural this weekend are each facing a hate crime charge, the Contra Costa County District Attorney's Office said Tuesday.

David Nelson and Nicole Anderson are each charged with three misdemeanor counts, including violation of civil rights, vandalism, and possession of tools to commit vandalism or graffiti, the district attorney's office said in a statement. The incident happened soon after the mural was painted in front of the courthouse in Martinez, California, on July 4.

"We must address the root and byproduct of systemic racism in our country. The Black Lives Matter movement is an important civil rights cause that deserves all of our attention," District Attorney Diana Becton said in a statement.

"The mural completed last weekend was a peaceful and powerful way to communicate the importance of Black lives in Contra Costa County and the country," she said. "We must continue to elevate discussions and actually listen to one another in an effort to heal our community and country."

When reached by phone by CNN, Nelson, 53, said "I have no comment — for you anyway." CNN's attempts to reach Anderson, 42, went unanswered Tuesday night.

A woman, wearing a red T-shirt and flip-flops, began painting over the yellow-lettered mural with black paint Saturday, as seen in a video posted on YouTube and shared in a police statement. A man wearing a red Trump shirt that read "Four more years" began filming as the woman started painting.

"We're sick of this narrative, that's what's wrong," the man said in the video. "The narrative of police brutality, the narrative of oppression, the narrative of racism, it's a lie."

A bystander off camera can be heard arguing with the man. She asked what was wrong with him before adding, "This is racist, what you're doing."

Residents of Martinez got a permit from the city to paint a Black Lives Matter mural on July 4, Martinez Police Chief Manjit Sappal said in a statement.

Police had been looking for the man and woman seen in the video.

"It appeared that the couple came to the mural with cans of paint and a roller with the specific purpose of vandalizing over the mural," Sappal said in the statement. "The community spent a considerable amount of time painting this mural only to have the suspects destroy it by dumping and rolling paint over part of the message."

During the incident, the woman stopped painting to voice her concern, suggesting such murals be kept in New York. "This is not happening in my town," she said.

The mural was repainted after the incident, according to KPIX. The area was blocked off and the mural was surrounded by chalk images as of Sunday afternoon, KPIX reported.

Nelson and Anderson will be sent notices to appear in court. That date has not yet been released, according to DA spokesman Scott Alonso. If convicted of the misdemeanor charges, each defendant could face up to a year in county jail, according to the news release.

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Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 12:10 PM

There are just as many scum prosecuter’s as scum judges
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 12:18 PM

Just more B.S. on how it is being handled. They should be charge with de-facing public property. JMO
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 12:18 PM

Just more B.S. on how it is being handled. They should be charge with de-facing public property. JMO
Posted By: Trap Setter

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 12:24 PM

I don't agree with the movement BUT the posted article states the mural was painted with a permit from the city. They are charged with vandalism, violating civil rights, and possessing tools to commit vandalism. Sounds like the right charge. I wouldn't like to see that in my community but they had the permits and the right to put it up no one should take that right away.
Posted By: Yukon John

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I don't agree with the movement BUT the posted article states the mural was painted with a permit from the city. They are charged with vandalism, violating civil rights, and possessing tools to commit vandalism. Sounds like the right charge. I wouldn't like to see that in my community but they had the permits and the right to put it up no one should take that right away.


Although I don't like it personally, I agree with you 100.
Posted By: adam m

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:00 PM

Something the article doesn't mention.... the mural is painted on a road. So technically anyone who drives on the road can be charged with a hate crime.

A couple years back the city here painted a crosswalk as a rainbow to the tune of $35k. A motorcyclist did a burnout on it and was charged with a hate crime.

If a crosswalk costs $35k to paint, how much did painting the entire road cost?
Posted By: HobbieTrapper

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by adam m
Something the article doesn't mention.... the mural is painted on a road. So technically anyone who drives on the road can be charged with a hate crime.

A couple years back the city here painted a crosswalk as a rainbow to the tune of $35k. A motorcyclist did a burnout on it and was charged with a hate crime.

If a crosswalk costs $35k to paint, how much did painting the entire road cost?


“BLM painted on the road”, seriously? ROTFLMBO!!!!
Posted By: Actor

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:11 PM

Let's look at the facts... these PAs, LEOs and Judges are afraid of the black community. Instead of standing up to these thugs, they jump in bed with them and protect them. I HATE COWARDS! These official need to voted out of office or just ran out of the counties they are in. People need to speak out against them in the public. Not just on trapping forums, where they are not going to be heard, but every need to express their opinions at public meetings... OR ARE ALL WHITE PEOPLE AFRAID OF THE THUGS?

Garry-
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:20 PM

It doesn't hurt that the DA is a black woman who during one of the protests refused to consider it a crime when a black protester assaulted a police officer hitting him with a tear gas canister. When they tried to arrest him for being out after curfew and assault, he resisted. The protester walked.
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I don't agree with the movement BUT the posted article states the mural was painted with a permit from the city. They are charged with vandalism, violating civil rights, and possessing tools to commit vandalism. Sounds like the right charge. I wouldn't like to see that in my community but they had the permits and the right to put it up no one should take that right away.


My problem isn't that they were charged with vandalism. I guess the violating civil rights charge is the hate crime charge, and that's the one I have a problem with. And the main reason I object to it, is because I bet you can't show me one single instance of where a black person was charged with a hate crime for destroying statues of white men. But as soon as a white person destroys something created by blacks....BAM...hate crime.

A white college student ended up serving time in a federal prison several years ago for tying a rope around the neck of a statue of James Meredith (a black civil rights activist). How many ropes have we seen tied around the necks of statues of white soldiers, being used to pull them down, in the past 2 months? Are any of those people serving time in federal prison for a hate crime? These "protesters" even admit they're pulling down the statues out of hatred and still no hate crime charges are filed. Most of the people that have destroyed statues and memorials haven't even been charged at all!
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:38 PM

There's a double standard, say it isn't so.
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:46 PM

Try and get a permit to paint " White lives matter "

Ain't happening .......true racism and total bs
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:54 PM

Well the perps need to come up with a Love excuse.

"We were offended, because we love all people, and we find the slogan to be non-inclusive, divisive, and hateful and demeaning to all the other races whose lives matter."
Posted By: Boco

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:55 PM

The way it is looked at is the blacks have a good reason to hate the whites because of slavery et al.So they are justified in what they do.
Whites hating blacks is just seen as perpetuating the historical injustice.So not at all justifiable.
That is why there is a different standard.
it is similar to the Gladue factors when an indigenous person is sentenced in a Canadian court.They will get a much lesser sentence than non -indigenous.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:56 PM

Its a twisted America
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 02:59 PM

Not one black person in the USA has ever been a slave
Posted By: Boco

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:01 PM

Its the intergenerational effect.Your a product of your upbringing and things are passed down.Good and bad.
Posted By: Tom cat

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:07 PM

Sounds like total bullcrap to me..
Posted By: Tom cat

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:10 PM

I’ve got a black guy at work that’s a big time supporter of BLM.. he started running off at the mouth the other morning about his ancestors picked cotton etc,etc,... I asked if he had ever picked cotton?? He said nope.. I told him Ive got some growing in my front yard. And I offered him the chance to pick it, he just huffed up and walked off.. was it something I said?? Lol
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:13 PM

History is great, but most minorities alive today have seen nothing but government preferential treatment and racist policies by the government for them. Why the hate?
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper

“BLM painted on the road”, seriously? ROTFLMBO!!!!


Ok this just made my day!
Posted By: Boco

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:26 PM

They are seeking truth and reconciliation and restorative justice to right the historical wrongs.This started in South africa and has spread to other countries.
The double standards in play right now are a precursor to further entrenched Truth,reconciliation and ultimately restorative justice.
Part of restorative justice is land re-distribution.The other part is money.
The UN supports this for indigenous peoples,not sure on how it will be applied to past slavery and its intergenerational effects in the USA.It seems a bit more complicated.
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:34 PM

Hip boots.
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:34 PM

That's a bunch of liberalish gibberish
Posted By: lee steinmeyer

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by AntiGov
That's a bunch of liberalish gibberish



Exactly! Boco, your full of it. Sure glad you want to believe all that BS your spewing!
Posted By: Boco

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:45 PM

That is not gibberish,if you knew anything you would be aware of what is happening internationally that will have to be addressed by you too,in your own country at some point.
I know what is happening in other countries,as I keep myself informed on international affairs.
If you dont believe what I said is happening right now-you have your head up your arse.
Truth,reconciliation and restorative justice is going on all over the world,your country is not immune to a world movement.
Just because you have no clue about it doesnt mean its not happening,lol.
What do you think is going on in your own country right now?
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 03:59 PM

Well , Boco, if you talk to the right minorities, they will tell you they are using white liberal guilt to fill their pockets with goodies.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:04 PM

I agree with that 100% dirt.
However,Its more about power/politics/control more so than a few trinkets.
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:06 PM

hip boots
Posted By: Boco

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:13 PM

Nunavut.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:17 PM

Four black county commissioners just voted to remove the Confederate monument in the county just north of me. The one white voted against. This vote is in clear violation of state law.
How is this not a hate crime?

Reverse it and say five whites voted to take down a civil rights statue.
Posted By: hippie

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:22 PM

Hate and racism is a one-way street in the liberals eyes. PERIOD.....
Posted By: Matt28

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:42 PM

The whole hate crime charge is stupid. This black lives matters deal is going to get some real hate crimes going.
Posted By: gcs

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 04:53 PM

I want reparations!, I'm pretty sure the Romans enslaved my people over 2,000 years ago...I got a lot of anxiety about it,......where do I send the paperwork?
Posted By: ky_coyote_hunter

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 05:01 PM

My Scottish ancestors were enslaved and oppressed by the crown of england....Where is my reparation $$ for this injustice?
Posted By: warrior

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 05:08 PM

I feel so guilty should my norse viking self pay reparations to my Scots and English self or should my American self pay reparations to my Tory or Cherokee self?

But I'm a southern white christian male as well so I guess I'm guilty on all counts.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by warrior
I feel so guilty should my norse viking self pay reparations to my Scots and English self or should my American self pay reparations to my Tory or Cherokee self?

But I'm a southern white christian male as well so I guess I'm guilty on all counts.

Yup! Nothing scarier than a white, right wing, conservative, Christian male! wink
Posted By: trapper20

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 07:56 PM

but BLM is destroying the cities to make a statement SMH
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 09:01 PM

A friend of mine, Mike, lives in Martinez. Today, we have been texting back and forth and he called me just a little bit ago. Our local news reported the "hate crime" at noon today. Mike said the woman that did the painting is connected to the courts and did not know blm had permission to paint the public roadway. The "mural" has already been repaired. The national news is reporting that there will be a huge protest in Martinez Sunday, with many different groups coming, including the group that destroyed parts of Minneapolis, Charlottesville and San Jose. Mike lives less than 2 miles from where the protests are supposed to be and heard nothing about it, before talking to me. He goes to the farmer's market, that the police chief of Martinez, says he can't protect from the protesters, almost every Sunday.

He thinks nothing will happen. I hope he is right. I told him to keep his guns ready and loaded.

Keith
Posted By: pcr2

Re: Hate Crime - 07/08/20 09:06 PM

i hate crime
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