Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA?

Does the NRA need new leadership or is he doing the job he should be doing?

8 million in salaries to the top 10 positions in the NRA. I have no problem with successful CEO's earning huge salaries. Make your company $100million and earn a $10million bonus - seams reasonable. But the NRA is a non-profit and I haven't ever seen any accounting of their successes. In fact, it was the NRA that first rushed to suggest a bump stock ban. Whether or not you like bump stocks, you must agree that your gun rights organization shouldn't be trying to get anything gun related banned. A few months later they published a letter in their magazines explaining that they had to try to get bump stock banned for secret reasons that we can't know about.

I've been a member for 30+ years and was once very pro NRA. I'm only a member now to keep my NRA instructor certification. Otherwise I wouldn't join again. SAF is where my donation money goes - they have successes and they fight.

I was a member of the NRA, but got tired of always receiving letters asking me to renew my membership 3 months after I had already renewed it. Or, other letters asking me for money for certain other things.

Yes, LaPierre is at the head of a nasty internal power struggle that has not done a bit of good for the NRA over the last several years. It is past time for him to step down and stop the vindictive behavior that has caused the resignation of several high-ranking board of director members who had the NRA's best interests at heart.

Agreed Life Member

Aaron Lewis needs to take his place.at least somebody with a following because of what they openly stand for.

It is time for him to step down or the board need to put him down. They also need to down size the number of board members way to many. JMO

Life member and Endowment designated. Wayne should have been removed or retired on his own volition a decade ago. Each and every mailing I receive from the NRA asking for continued donations I reply with this statement written on the return form "Not a penny more until Wayne and his cronies are shown the door!" Mail it back on their dime too. The upper management needs a thorough housecleaning. I still support the local Friends of NRA and their mission of raising funds and keeping it local.

Chris

He needs to go.

I said it years ago and people through a fit and acted like I was a communist. You can figure it out at your own pace.

Easy to be certified as "non profit" if you pay the head dogs any and ALL monies to make it non profit.

Didn't renew as soon as I saw the salaries .. Took 2 years to quit getting the begging letters......

The NRA needs new leadership.

As a life member since 1985 I've seen better and it's past due.

Give him the boot.

I quit the NRA in disgust a year or so back. Now my membership money goes to GAO and SAF.

Jim

They use to use our money to lobby for gun rights now they use gun rights to lobby for our money

Till that puke is out of the office they won't see any of my money,
If you take the money out of it wayne won't even do it anyway.

I heard ole Wayne was doodling an intern and paying for her apartment with membership dues. Googled her pic and I get why he doodled her. But don’t use my money for tht!

I never liked the guy. I always felt that he was just in it for the money. He always seemed fake to me.

I am a life member of the NRA.
Because of stuff like this I will not be
a life member of another organization.
Things change. I don't.

Zim

Yes, give him the boot. Of all the NRA threads i have ever seen here, this is the first i have commented on thru all the same arguments. Save the postage asking for donations and do something worthwhile with it or keep panhandling so the wig up top can get a new suit either way im out

Yeah i just about was a life member, and backed out.
Pulling a membership is a good way to let them know your not happy with what they are thinking about doing or have already done.
I do the same with my trappers association dues, don't know how many people that have told me (you know you will save money if you just do a lifetime. ) but they won't let you pull a lifetime membership.

Welcome to "Wayne's World" The most "patriotic" organization with an SNL chaos to it. Not a great time to be in turmoil with a huge election event only a few months away. When they moved from firearm safety, working with and for gun owners and went political it changed their whole focus and as we all know politics is a very undependable, unpredictable and stinky place to rest upon.


Bryce

Did you see the pic of the intern he doodled?

still they figure out what they are supposed to do other than buying 5000 dollar suites and living it up. My money goes to GOA .... The NRA has had their signature on pretty much every gun rights cropping legislation for way to long. They are not helping the cause one iota and are part of the problem.

Don’t forget the SAF.

Wayne is part of the swamp he's been paid by the NRA since the 80's.

Never join as a life member. I don't care if it's NRA or any of the dozens of conservation groups out there. At some point they all become creatures of the swamp, so desperate for a deal they totally lose their principal and purpose. And it's always the same excuse - you members just don't understand the situation.

Yep he needs to go preferably yesterday

Wait....what?

This thread is useless without pictures.

I'm trying to imagine what a scandal would look like for a trapping organization.

1. Lavish clothing expenses: $225.00 for flannel shirts from L.L. Bean.

2. Travel expenses: paid for premium unleaded rather than regular.

3. Dinner choices: ordered a Ceasar salad rather than the Slamburger at Denny's.

4: Intern: bought her a 5 person tent with a vestibule for the New England Trappers Weekend.

In Our NYSTA Treasurer financial scandal,

The Treasurer left our state convention each night, and headed for the casino
to gamble away our daily cash fund raising proceeds.

He took membership monies, and bought personal property, trapping supplies,
even vehicles, and cleaned out our bank accounts.

He had control of our membership paypal account and stole from that also.

He lived really good off New York State's trappers.

He got off scot-free with no prosecution for his crimes.

All in my opinion, of course.

w

NRA needs to quit advocating for common sense gun control. Membership would soar. LaPierre has gotten wealthy convincing gun owners NRA wants to abolish gun law rather than scare people into giving them money. Politicians act angry in anti 2nd states in order to keep their voters sending campaign contributions and gun owners thinking they are being represented.

PETA does the same thing. They do not want animal rights legislation any more than the NRA wants to restore shall not be infringed. It would cook the goose laying golden eggs.

@walleyed. Yep, and it sure seems these scumbags are more prevalent these days than ever before. My faith in humanity grows dimmer everyday.

Yes, sad state of affairs. As a family we have not rejoined for several years now.

Post pic of intern !!!!!

Was she hot?

I couldn’t find any pictures.

She is hot but that's really not the point of this post/thread is it guys?

You can look up pictures of hot women all day long on the internet if you want to.

I don’t need to look up pictures on the internet, I can just look at my wife if I want to see a hot woman.

Same!

Maybe we just want to see what we paid for?

Did you ever think of that? No you didn't did you?

No, I didn't.

Here's what our dues bought for Wayne.

He bought a flamingo decoy?

Mine is hot to but it usually because she is mad at me. lol

I never wanted to be a flamingo before.

I wonder if she is a squishy conservative?

Lol Rob. Did you see from the other thread, your now a Liberal squishy Rino. That dude cracks me up. Oh and yes, kick ole Wayne to the curb and turn the NRA around. Yeah, around like a 180, not a 360.

Yeah I saw that, Lol...

I agree Wayne should go, and the NRA should stop writing gun control laws.


Still a member though.

Life member of the NRA and GOA and a several different state organizations . When NRA folded on bumpstocks (I don't own on, wouldn't buy one, probably wouldn't take a free one, but I support anyones right to own one) I threw in all with GOA. I am sick of common sense gun laws and those who support them. The way things are I need to protect myself and family from both the cops (the supposed good guys) and the mob.

The amount of money wasted by NRA is a problem. Would love to know what ol' Wayne is paid? I think that donations etc. ought to be used to fight the antis and the leadership positions ought to be non-paid...

Soon as you start throwing out big salaries, you attract the wrong type, (ie the swamp)

So as for now I throw what I can, when I can exclusively behind GOA.

A touch over 5.1 million per year according to Wikipedia.

I think the position is worth $200,000 a year and no more.

What is it that Wayne did?

Didn't u see the pic?

Wayne was making $800,000 and then they gave him a raise. I can only imagine what’s that loke

Spoken like a man whose wife is looking over his shoulder as he types. lol

Jim

Get way to much junk mail and pleads for money. More action less pandering. That’s why I quit

Well,,,at least I can see my dues didn't go to waste.People that say money cant buy happiness,,,,dont know where to shop.

James, so your a member of the GAO, how does that work and how much are the dues?

"Wayne"may just be the tip of the iceberg. When I was a member one would get this listing of some 80 plus VPs etc. etc. Sure seems to be a lot of decision makers looking the other way and that may be costly in many more ways then financial.

Bryce

As an unpaid local leader in "special interest" groups I can tell you that you get exactly what you pay for. You pay nothing your going to get nothing.

Now that said there is a place for personal ethics in leadership and any organization with such a leader will be blessed until the temptations of power erode the ethics. For that reason leadership should be regularly rotated or kept answerable and only the membership can make that happen.
I see this situation not so much a failure of Wayne as he's just human and was allowed access to the cookie jar for to long. It was the members failure to guard the cookie jar.

care to specify how members were to "guard the cookie jar"

The tax filings for both are easy to find, and have salaries listed. Percent of your dollar going for salaries is going to surprise some people here by the looks of it.

I don't have a clue to how the NRA's bylaws are written. I would suspect most of their members don't either, hence the problem.

If you're a member there a set of rules called bylaws that'll tell you how to do it.

I give ‘em my money back in 1980. I enjoy the monthly magazine, especially, “The Armed Citizen “.

Could you be a little more specific ?

w

Sure,
There's been several comments on the two NRA threads about the money going to the pockets of the leaders.

If they look up the info I mentioned, I don't think they'll use that as an argument again.

Getting me to bash one to make the other look good? Nope, I'll just point towards the facts and they can make the call.

I wish I could get someone like that to clean my pool, that darn thing is nasty! The pool I mean.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...;utm_content=more-in&utm_term=fourth

That article is spot on White.

The lawsuit is not to fight fraud or there would be charged brought against at least one of the 4 she claims committed it.
Nope, went straight to complete elimination of the entire organization.

She in fact should be charged for corruption of her office.

Put it this way....
If her claims that the four she mentioned embezzled money, charge them.

This is like closing a religious group (pick one) down because a couple priests hand their hand in the cookie jar.

the case may well be a loser but from those that want to taint an organization, charging the organization keeps their name in the not so goo lights and not two or three individuals who did corrupt acts. What the goals or the aims is more important many times than who gets gored, especially when dealing with a very large and well known organization.
Bryce