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Sizes are dumb

Posted By: Gone Trappin.

Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:31 AM

A victor 1.5 has a bigger jaw spread 4 7/8 than a bridger 1.75 4 3/4. And the bridger 1.75 should hold a yote so why canít a victor 1.5
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:32 AM

There is absolutely no standard when it comes to trap size numbers and actual jaw spread.
Posted By: KYtrapper2005

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:35 AM

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Posted By: Gone Trappin.

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:37 AM

Thatís the outside jaw spread
Posted By: warrior

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:40 AM

If you think that's fun there's fifty states and a few territories that have trapping regs and none are standard either.
Even better some use non standard english to interpret them.
Posted By: Gone Trappin.

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:43 AM

My first act as president would be to normalize trap sizes
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:47 AM

Though not the first choice of coyote trappers the Victor 1.5 coil has hung onto hundreds of coyotes for me down South since the 1980s. I did got a few traps distorted by mean coyotes but baseplates stopped that.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:50 AM

To me it just shows how valuable our forum sponsors really are to a trapper b/c their websites clearly show outside and inside spread so we know what we are ordering and if it complies with the law if we are bone headed enough to live in a yankee state. whistle
Posted By: Jurassic Park

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:51 AM

I know a Duke 1.5 will hold a wolf, so I would guess a victor 1.5 would hold a coyote.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:56 AM

SMDH at Cannuks!
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 03:21 AM

The design of a single long 1.5 trap is totally different than a 1.5 or 1.76 coil trap and thus holding capabilities are quite different. Also a single long 1.5 actually has the jaw spread of a # 2 double long spring. The .5 years ago many times referenced the number of springs as much if not more than the actual size or jaw spread. As stated above there is no real standard as to size so you will find variability in foot holds as well as body grippers.

Bryce
Posted By: wissmiss

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 05:29 AM

Back in the late 1970s or early 1980s - just as States were being to add restrictions about jaw spread - one state issued the ruling that any trap larger than a size 2 had to have offset jaws. No exact measurements, just ďlarger size a size 2Ē. Easy fix on #3 and #4 traps - take off the original pan and replace it with a #2 pan.

True story. It worked for a short while, until the state got smart and changed the law to reflect jaw spread size.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
I know a Duke 1.5 will hold a wolf, so I would guess a victor 1.5 would hold a coyote.


Exactly
But I would baseplate the 1.5ís
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by GoneTrappin.
My first act as president would be to normalize trap sizes

grin
Posted By: PAskinner

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by GoneTrappin.
A victor 1.5 has a bigger jaw spread 4 7/8 than a bridger 1.75 4 3/4. And the bridger 1.75 should hold a yote so why canít a victor 1.5

Because the Bridger is a much better built trap. One of my favorite all around traps. Also, the Victor is only that wide in the center, correct, because it's a round jaw. Which actually has more room inside the jaws?
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 01:42 PM

LOL a 1 1/2 was plenty of trap until the internet came along !!!!
Posted By: Wild_WI

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 02:34 PM

I got my biggest yote (hanging on the wall) in a 1.5 duke
Posted By: PAskinner

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 03:10 PM

To be fair though, I don't think any serious coyote trapper is running 1.5 traps. It's not just about holding, it's about getting a deep hold on that big foot to start with. Just because I can hold a coyote in a coon trap doesn't make it a good choice for coyotes.
Posted By: songdog man

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 03:45 PM

I've caught many yotes in a 1.5 victor soft catch and was just starting out and didn't know any better. I wouldn't try it now unless I had no other choice.
Posted By: Wild_WI

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 03:57 PM

PAskinner, true story I actually caught the one I mentioned in a coon set
Posted By: PAskinner

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Wild_WI
PAskinner, true story I actually caught the one I mentioned in a coon set

I've done that. I've also missed them in 1.75's because of just a bit of crust over the trap. I don't like bigger traps on my home line, but I can see why people use them in certain areas.
Posted By: iaduckhntr

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by GoneTrappin.
My first act as president would be to normalize trap sizes

What would be your second act???
Dennis
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by iaduckhntr
Originally Posted by GoneTrappin.
My first act as president would be to normalize trap sizes

What would be your second act???
Dennis

Huge tax on Korean imports maybe? grin
Posted By: wissmiss

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 06:04 PM

How about a subsidy for fur trappers.
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Sizes are dumb - 08/03/20 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by wissmiss
How about a subsidy for fur trappers.

Now yer talkin!!!
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