Indoctrination in public universities.

In my email account at the University of Southern Maine I keep getting ads, letters, and so on asking for my vote or to join some organization to support Biden. So far nothing from Trump. His lazy handlers couldn't bother to get him at USM, I guess. lol

Seriously,I can understand why most universities would want to be involved in this election, and it makes sense they'd mostly want to support Biden. But I'm surprised the school can take any position it desires. I kinda thought they were, or should be, banned from politics.

USM, understand, is a public, state-run university. Should universities, especially public universities, be banned from engaging in politics, just like churches? Or should they have to give equal time to both candidates?

Jim

Universities would be non-partisan about like the news media would be. Ain't gonna happen. They have an agenda and it's working very well for them.

I agree, public institutions should remain neutral on politics. However I do believe they should encourage debate and discussions about politics.

Universities teach excuses for struggles instead of how to overcome them.

They aren’t actually political.

Watch the coverage of the riots in our cities and you can answer your own question, because the people you see rioting are the product our schools are producing.

Professors profess, they are not teachers. Their job is not to create thinkers.

That is surprising James on the surface but I remember in a few businesses when we wanted to market something to a target group it wasn't hard at all to buy a mailing list even from a public university. Sometimes you could get access to lists if you had other ties like donors or alumni groups, athletic or academic groups, that sort of thing. It really was easier than I thought it should have been to buy a mailing list including email lists. Same as helping them save costs by buying space in a mailing envelope of something they are already sending out to students...for a nominal fee we could throw a stuffer in same envelope of something they were already sending out. Email worked same way. My guess is something along these lines is what you were receiving perhaps?
Jim

I can’t blame all that on Universities. My son has attended to 2 Universities and he has no desire to destroy anyone’s property or throw things at the police.

NPR has been doing it for years on the public dole, Also I wonder why you think Universities would want to be involved in this election?

That's awesome....but that doesn't change the fact that our schools put forth the liberal thinking.

Democrats can't see far enough down the road to realize what WILL happen under the next D president. It will require a miracle to avoid it. Look what's happening today even with a Republican president. One man can't stop it by himself.

Thank you hip.

I believe they cultivate what is already planted. None of my son’s conservative friends have changed their opinions, but they’ve only been there 3 years or so. lol

Yup, I think it's about the parenting a kid gets before going to college. They need to be aware of what's going to be pushed on them. None of the kids in my family have been detoured by liberalism.

Most people can’t see too far down the road. A broken down car in the yard because there is no money to repair it is evidence. lol

How many people have said, “I can’t afford to save money” while surfing the internet on an iPhone?

Everyone needs to start out life by "picking $h1t with the chickens" so they know what it's like to be poor.

lol, I was poor long enough to learn I didn’t want to stay there and after visiting the DMV, realized the government wasn’t going to be a fast track to change that.

Boy, isn't all of Mediaville, like a bunch of whos in Whoville on fire about President Trump's "demeanor" during the debates. I predict many will lose actually lbs. from exercising their lips so much since then.

I wonder who among us could suit up, strap on a boots each day, and then walk into the den of the Washington DC political arena in these times, and NOT get a bit riled up?
Day after day, week after week, month after month MANY in WDC "hate" the President who battles for one thing hard with a tact and personality that is required of anyone who steps in to fight for;

Individual freedoms

vs.

all those who ONLY recognize group freedoms

That in a nut shell, is world and American politics.

The one or the many?

I've been reading over the Declaration of Independence and it's good to remind myself how our nation's founders toiled over all this;

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.



We were founded by those who were devoutly educated, religious men who believed that individual freedoms they inherited as children of the God of Creation were being crushed by the tyranny of men (Great Britain). Their mission and sole focus was to create a nation where these divinely endowed freedoms could prosper without man-made tyranny.

Our nation is a long, long way from those founding principles today.
The immoral & the group freedom advocates & the demonic wage war every moment against us.

Blessings,
Mark

But the Gubmint is there to help you!......

Here's one of the emails, came today.



Join us for the People's Day of Action
You watched the debate. You know what to do.

PLEDGE TO VOTE FOR JOE


James,

I’m gonna keep this short: The President of the United States is a white supremacist.

During last night’s debate, in a display of sheer belligerence, Donald Trump repeatedly refused to condemn white supremacy and to affirm that Black Lives Matter, he told white supremacist groups like the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” and he once again threatened that he would not recognize the results of a legitimate election.

It made me sick. But Joe Biden made me proud to be a voter. He conducted himself with compassion, he stayed focused on the progressive values that drive him, and ultimately: He was coherent.

We need to make sure that Joe Biden wins by a landslide and get the white supremacist in chief out of the White House. That’s why I’m asking you now to commit to vote for Joe Biden in the last 34 days we have left.

COMMIT TO VOTE FOR JOE
Let’s shut Donald Trump up,

Ben Wessel
Executive Director
NextGen America

Thanks Mark. You should load up vials of smelling salts with windwalker, walk into DC floor, crack one open and wave that under noses of the powers that be to wake them up then slide a copy of the declaration under their bifocals so they can bone up on what they are charged to serve and protect for the good of all of us.
Jim

yeah James i'd wager that is not from the school but seems to something of a mailng sent by a group that purchased the mailing list from the school or a related school organization.
Jim

There is strong evidence that it's all about the of the group think.
Social justice warriors.

Why is it that every time a group rights government, "Social"lists. "Commune"ists, etc. shows up....
The individuals in it live like they have no rights?
Because they don't.

I wish they taught this at major universities James.
You're an attorney, true?
You would fight for the rights of the individual in our legal system. Heck, that's perhaps why we have so many attorneys because everyone is an individual and seems to think they "need a good lawyer!" Maybe they do and THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT in America.

This dunderheads that call for a viva la revolution in America won't need an attorney because they won't have rights and freedoms to fight for!
Get back in your group line.

Blessings,
Mark

Your not going to change anyones mind on a political view. Most politicians dont really care one way or another. They just say whatever will get them elected. That debate did show how childish our “leaders” are.

Of course public funded schools should be required to stay neutral

Who are the parents of that generation? Lets stop shirking our role and take some ownership.

Could it be that each of us has our own "world view?"
Our individual personal cultural lens through which we understand everything.

Then we vote for the political candidate that seems to hold our view of "how things are" everywhere.
If this is the case, let's vote this afternoon because there are no "undecided" voters.
There may be the uninterested, but I doubt there are any undecided.

Blessings,
Mark

JMO, but any corporate entity receiving any fiduciary support from any level of government should be required to remain silent on matters that may may impact the status of that government with the penalty for not doing so being full reimbursement with interest.

Basically prohibiting buying advertising with public funds.

Truth

I got into this with my daughter who went to a liberal arts college. She says they have the right to do as they please. I can sort of see that, being they are privately owned I guess? But if they get any federal money, it should be a different story. College here in PA quit selling " the thin blue line" hats because some students complained.

Disingenuous argument. Liberals, like a creature native and endued unto that element find college campuses their natural habitat. Antifa looks to be made up of people who thought they could spend their entire lives on campus and had a poor reaction when they realized it had to come to an end. The left targets our youth. Pelosi is on record saying she supports lowering the voting age to sixteen. Despicable to my way of thinking.

You should email Mr. Wessel back and tell him you're not as youthful as he thinks you are.

You really think folks on this site are the ones “shirking” our role?

This is a great thread with well-thought replies. I owe it a ramble of morning, pre-coffee thoughts...

Back when I was in college there were anti-war and other rallies, of which we were made aware by handwritten postings on telephone poles, the bulletin boards in Student Unions, and other places in hopes of catching the eye of students and others that may be passing by. Whomever posted the information was hoping to gather enough folks through those postings as well as more by word of mouth.

Nowadays, with the technology infused into the hands of virtually everyone, groups and individuals can immediately contact and disperse their views and impending actions to an unlimited audience with very little effort and cost. This ease of transferral of information is exacerbating the unrest in our society. In most respects technology is a wonderful tool that I am using right now, but it is a double-edged sword that will continue and grow, and will be increasingly difficult to cope with.

Moosetrot

I went to a juco and a private university nearly 20 years ago. Some of those university professors were very liberal even by today’s standards. They graded according to how people pandered to their beliefs because a lot of the grades came from writing papers, not choosing a b c or d. I remember a an intro to crim justice class i had freshman year taught by a hippie sociology prof. The book was “environmental crimes”. I worked on a hog farm 20 hours a week. This came up on papers i wrote and i failed every assignment and the final, which was essay. I appealed to the dean, who acted sympathetic but said sorry cant help. To be expected at a private university to an extent but shouldnt be allowed on a public funded campus.
The juco teachers were there because they liked to teach and kept politics out of it.

James did you say churches are banned from politics. Really? I strongly beg to differ check out shows like the 700 club or go to any locale church and see if politics isn't sooner or later worked into the sermon.

Years ago, I had a college professor who idolized BF Skinner. His class revolved around Skinner's teachings. Your grade depended more on your opinion of Skinner and his experiments than the actual contents of the psychology class he was teaching.

University of Wyoming (!) early 80's. Intro to US Government. Prof got up there 1st day of class and told us he was a Communist and hated capitalism and the US constitution. I got up and walked out of there straight down to the registrars office and dropped the class. I was the only one of maybe 200 to do so. Scary.

Wyoming! Almost 40 years ago now! It's bad!

That’s not really scary. Nothing wrong with studying an opponent and learning how to destroy them.

I hear you Hobbie but Yeah no all those freshman in their soaking it up more worried about the parties on the weekend than defending their country. Meanwhile this commie operative slipping his propaganda into their brains. Not good.

Lies. Trump disavowed white supremacy twice both times Wallace asked if he would.
Trump never said he would not recognize the results of a legitimate election.
What is not a lie is that Compassionate Coherent Joe refused to condemn the rioting commies in the streets.
What you posted James is bull crap and you should be ashamed of yourself for your silly subtle efforts.

One more and I gotta go but this garbage is everywhere! Wouldn't be surprised to find out this clown was a grad of some state University. Probably hate the 2nd Amendment except for his comrades:

Further evidence that Twitter is encouraging Marxism and violence against normal Americans came from its former CEO on Wednesday.

“Me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution,” he tweeted. “I’ll happily provide video commentary.”

The message was not removed by Twitter management.

Costolo’s comment was in response to a discussion on whether social justice should be a goal of industry.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, The Rev. Jesse Jackson, The Rev. Louis Farrakhan...the left has long threatened the churches tax exempt status unless you were one of their protected groups.

James although I suspect this is click bait, I will kindly thank you for the post (it was either that or assume we agree on more than huntin, fishin, and trappin LOL) It is a problem




Good God man youre so close but then you don't finish strong- of course they are political even tho they dream up ways to deny it (Just like the IRS a few yrs back!

The separation of government (state) in our Constitution isn't the way it's often misinterpreted: "separation of church and state."
Rather it's like each and every tenet of the Constitution and Bill of Rights = What the state can not do to its citizenry.
In this case, government is supposed to stay out of religious business.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Blessings,
Mark

So your saying they don't use churches and churches don't use them to either get elected or get their points turned into law?

Wessel is a climate nut but didn't mention that. Instead called Trump a racist, what waste of space.

They wasted their time preaching to the choir.Trying to talk you into doing something you were already gonna do.Vote for "ANY DEMOCRAT WITH A PULSE",,just like you said.

You'd have to define churches.

Like the descendant churches of the Ana-Baptists. They were founded upon a despising of all things secular government - so there's usually no collaborative efforts there.

It's like trappers. Are there different kinds?

That is true about democrats not being able to see down the road. They have Harry Reid to thank for Trump getting 3 supreme court justices confirmed. He thought it was a good idea to do away with the filibuster in supreme court confirmations when the democrats had control of the senate

"In November 2013, Senate Democrats led by Harry Reid used the nuclear option to eliminate the 60-vote rule on executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments, but not for the Supreme Court.[1] In April 2017, Senate Republicans led by Mitch McConnell extended the nuclear option to Supreme Court nominations in order to end debate on the nomination of Neil Gorsuch.[2][3][4]"

Close.

You know the standard park in the parking lot , walk in set in a pew type church. Around here for eight years they blasted Obama and at this time carry Trumps flag .Which is fine with me but is that keeping their nose out of politics?

Churches can do that all they want..... Just might lose their tax exempt status.

Churches around here have been telling folks who to vote for from the pulpit and busing them to the polling places for years. I reckon this year won’t be any different.

Seems in your opinion someone at some level in a church spoke or had opinions about Presidential politics.
That may very well be the case.

Blessings,
Mark