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Posted By: BraskaYoter

Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 10:47 PM

Our mini dachshund got bit in the face by a rattle snake this afternoon about 6 feet from where we were sitting talking with my wife, kids, and dad. My youngest son was right in same spot 10 minutes before and got his butt chewed by my wife and the snake lecture. Really glad it was not my son, but feel really bad for our weenier dog, hes 11 and a pretty tough ol sucker though has held his weight with some overmatched competition before. Hes still doing okay right now, time will tell. Snake lost to the 20 guage, dont screw with my dogs even the little ones. Dont mind snakes, but I really dislike rattle snakes!!!!!
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 10:50 PM

If he is still doing ok then it was probably a dry bite or at least one that had little venom in it. I hope he gets through it ok.
Posted By: Northwing70

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:14 PM

Hope the little pooch is alright!
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:14 PM

Thats what my vet said also, and anti venom is about 750$ a vial and due to his small size it would take two plus with his age and underlying issues he recommended a wait and see approach, kinda sucks but tis life. He did say that bites on the face is actually better with small dogs because there is only limited tissue to swell as opposed to a bite on there body, does not spread as rapidly throughout and cause shock. Ive lost a dog to snake before, ruined some good horses as well, guess they will stay on my ADC list...
Posted By: Crit-R-Dun

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:38 PM

That seems very rational and responsible of your vet. Most around here would do what they could to shame you into spending the money.
Posted By: danvee

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:50 PM

Benadryl will help him out a lot surprised the vet did not mention it.
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:53 PM

Hes a pretty good dude, was out cattle vet for years and took a national gig with Zoetis and sold his local practice to his brother.
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by danvee
Benadryl will help him out a lot surprised the vet did not mention it.


I did first thing, Ive had dogs snake bit before.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/04/20 11:55 PM

x2 on the dry bite and if so that is a lucky stroke for the wiener dog
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
If he is still doing ok then it was probably a dry bite or at least one that had little venom


This is the norm. Herpetologists suspect they usually conserve venom for prey. Since there is time required for it to regenerate. Bites from young are often worse. we presume, they have not figured the system out yet.
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:14 AM

My red heeler that got bit and died was bit in the ribs running by the snake totally unaware it was there, we were moving cows. He swelled up like a tick within 30 min and was dead within a hour. Mr Weenies face is fairly swollen above eyes and down muzzle but not horrible, Ive seen dogs that have lived that you cant even see there eyes because of swelling from snake bites. The black spot above his right eye is one of the puncture marks, other was on top of skull.

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Posted By: slowpoke

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:24 AM

Hope the little feller is ok - good on the 20 guage ...
Posted By: jabNE

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:28 AM

Oh man he looks sore, sir. Hope he pulls through OK.
Jim
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by slowpoke
Hope the little feller is ok - good on the 20 guage ...


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Posted By: Flipper 56

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:51 AM

Hope he makes it. Glad we don't have to worry much around here. Have never seen one of our Massasauga Rattlesnakes here and we have Timbers in Southern Indiana.
Posted By: Wife

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 12:56 AM

Yoter, you need either more black snakes or more badgers in that country as they will clean out a den in a hurry. Guessing prairie dogs are too numerous that you can't whittle down the prey base so you try to increase the predators. When i was younger I was mushroom hunting south of Nebraska City and had either an eastern diamondback or a timber rattle take a shot at me and miss. Guy I was with and I tried to turn him into a "good" snake but he was back in a pile and got away before we could lower the boom. Anyone ever hear of using a spark plug hooked to a car engine and placing that on the bite area while the engine is running? My friends down south swear by it as the eV shock destroys the tissue of the bite area before it gets too far into the bloodstream............... the mike
Posted By: Marty

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 01:12 AM

that sucks, I hope for the best for you guys.
Posted By: TomInVT

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 01:22 AM

My shorthair has been bitten twice. He never went to the vet, we just gave him Benadryl, 2 teaspoons per 10 lbs body weight (he got 14). He was sad a day or two and recovered. Once bitten in the nose and once on the leg. We lived in AZ and got the dogs from a breeder there. He said he never had good luck with the antivenin and that the dogs recovered just fine with Benadryl and antibiotics only if there was bite site infection. He said any bites to the muscle usually healed quickly, if the snake injected into a vein or artery the dog would be dead long before you could get them help anyways. YMMV
Posted By: obaro

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 02:26 AM

Bummer, we have a horse or dog bit about every other year or so, but so far nothing fatal. Have had put tubes in the nostrils of a horse or two to keep them from swelling shut and closing off the air way. Killed a rattler this afternoon about 300 yards from the house when we going out antelope hunting.
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 04:48 AM

They have a vaccination for rattlesnakes out now. The wife got her redbone one. Didn't make it no smarter though she still went out and got bit shortly after. She did survive but not sure what it was.
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 05:55 AM

Well its midnight basically and hes still alive and has been drinking water, so looking positive as of right now.
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Drifter
They have a vaccination for rattlesnakes out now. The wife got her redbone one. Didn't make it no smarter though she still went out and got bit shortly after. She did survive but not sure what it was.


I gave my outside dogs thats, but I was told you have to give a booster every year and that however has not been done. Weenie dog lives inside 95% of the time for obvious reasons so he has never got it. i would say he probably wont be poking his head in bushes anymore, but lets be real hes a wiener dog training is not there thing. But they are cool tough little hunting dogs.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Wife
Yoter, you need either more black snakes or more badgers in that country as they will clean out a den in a hurry. Guessing prairie dogs are too numerous that you can't whittle down the prey base so you try to increase the predators. When i was younger I was mushroom hunting south of Nebraska City and had either an eastern diamondback or a timber rattle take a shot at me and miss. Guy I was with and I tried to turn him into a "good" snake but he was back in a pile and got away before we could lower the boom. Anyone ever hear of using a spark plug hooked to a car engine and placing that on the bite area while the engine is running? My friends down south swear by it as the eV shock destroys the tissue of the bite area before it gets too far into the bloodstream............... the mike

I have heard of that also.
No eastern diamondbacks in that neck of the woods, but there are timber rattlers. I grew up at Pawnee City and there are some in the area.
Posted By: jabNE

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 11:46 AM

Yep timbers and massaugas on our corner here but pretty rare got to be area that didn't see much spray over the years. The rocky pastuers around Southern corner that weren't tillable have best chance of seeing one. Got a few Osage copperheads around here and south, too. All mostly prairie rattlers west and north parts of state.
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 05:58 PM

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Were a little puffy today, but still doing better than the snake half of this equation.
Posted By: Taximan

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 08:14 PM

The little guy must be miserable but it sure looks like he will make it.I hope you see daily improvement and a fast recovery.I have to think he took one for the family.That is too close! Good luck.
Posted By: mississippiposse

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 10:13 PM

Hope he keeps doing better. Looks like a rough time
Posted By: Mark K

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 11:35 PM

One of mine got tagged by something too. Didn't take a pic until the swelling was almost gone. Gave him benedryl.

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Posted By: Flipper 56

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/05/20 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by BraskaYoter
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Were a little puffy today, but still doing better than the snake half of this equation.

Sure hope he pulls through this.
Posted By: mudtracker

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/06/20 12:29 AM

Mark I, where did that happen at? I see you are in mn
Posted By: Mark K

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/06/20 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by mudtracker
Mark I, where did that happen at? I see you are in mn


Right here in Faribault. No idea what tagged him. Was last summer. He was swelled up almost as bad as the above pic of the brown one.
Posted By: Ol' Smoke

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/06/20 12:06 PM

Hoping your good dog gets better soon.
Posted By: MJM

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/06/20 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Mark K

Right here in Faribault. No idea what tagged him. Was last summer. He was swelled up almost as bad as the above pic of the brown one.

I would bet bees or hornets. I have seen our weaner get stung by ground hornets and swell worse than that.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/06/20 01:32 PM

Hope he heals up
Posted By: Wife

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/07/20 10:12 AM

Nobody heard of the spark plug on the bite area? My friends from SC carry a 10' long plug wire with them and lay it on the snakebite for a second or two after they immobilize (tie) the dog's legs....... the mike
Posted By: BraskaYoter

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/12/20 02:33 AM

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Back to normal like nothing happened, didnt keep him out of the bushes at all either. Cold coming here tonight should run snakes to dens fairly quick as its supposed to stay under freezing at nights from here on out. Thanks for all the support, my kids really liked reading the comments about there dog and someone they dont know caring about him.
Posted By: Lugnut

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/12/20 02:44 AM

Good news, glad to hear he’s back to normal. Thanks for the update.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/12/20 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by BraskaYoter
Our mini dachshund got bit in the face by a rattle snake this afternoon about 6 feet from where we were sitting talking with my wife, kids, and dad. My youngest son was right in same spot 10 minutes before and got his butt chewed by my wife and the snake lecture. Really glad it was not my son, but feel really bad for our weenier dog, hes 11 and a pretty tough ol sucker though has held his weight with some overmatched competition before. Hes still doing okay right now, time will tell. Snake lost to the 20 guage, dont screw with my dogs even the little ones. Dont mind snakes, but I really dislike rattle snakes!!!!!


Bite to the face is not usually lethal. Bite to the feet is far worse. Vets say it is far easier for the venom to enter the blood steam from a leg or especially the paws.
Sounds like he'll make it and the face is the best place for them to get poked. Venom stays in place far better and is soaked into the surrounding tissue with less into the overall blood stream.

Good luck!
Blessings,
Mark
Posted By: Flipper 56

Re: Stupid Rattle Snakes - 10/12/20 04:01 AM

That is great, glad he is doing fine!
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