Survey, missed cross-boarders hunters

How many Tmenbers could not come up to Canada to hunt/fish/ ice fishing this season because of covid?
Don't let it go sideways because of politics

As much as I would love to I can't justify the cost so covid had nothing to do with it.


I do sign up to win free trips all the time though.

According to the bait shop and area guides I've talked to there has been a lot of people up here that had cancelled Canadian trips but still wanted to get away. The lakes were crowded compared to the last 15 years or so.

Covid has even affected, the numbers of Canadians going to camps this fall. Our deer camp usually has 8 to 10 hunters. This year will be 5or 6. All older folks. I think the younger hunters can't risk or can't afford to go. My son says he won't go because, he can't risk being tested positive, it would shut down his whole construction crew. They have been a very closed group this year. Our moose group went in two mostly family groups, no tags, so mostly a work party.old243

Wife and I missed our trips up this year. I know a guy I work with missed a couple also. Going up for colored phase bear for the wife's retirement next fall.

Should be a busy time up there for you folks when things open up again. Lots of pent-up demand!

This^^^

Buddies and I cancelled a minimum of four Ontario trips from April through September.

I had to cancel a spring trip and a fall trip

North..
I had a very busy year scheduled up there this year. My busiest ever for upscale fishing groups. My fishing groups would have brought long over 130k American to Canada. May not seem like much but I am only one person. I cannot imagine overall what Canada lost.
This does not include fall bird hunting groups.
Someone mentioned a big year of recoup for Canada next year, I’m not so sure it will be that great as most places I booked into flipped all current depositors to next year rather than refund. A lost year for Canadian outfitters for sure.

Osky

Osky is right, the vast majority of us rolled our bookings over to 21. Going to be lots of outfitters out of business by spring.

Im not sure I fully understand the question. No one could come up to Canada to hunt or fish this season??

Osky what type of business do you run a booking agency ?? I might be interested in talking to you if thats the case.

Yukon
No one from the states that I know of were allowed across the border, to this day. Essential services only tho I do not know what those were.
I have handled fisherman across the border for decades. Sons of fathers who used me way back when and more and more business people call each year to have trips set up for exactly what they want. From the arctic to Costa Rica.
I’d happily answer your questions or refer you to someone who could do so better than me.

Osky

I was in the boundary waters this summer. The place was over ran with people, several I talked to would have preferred Quetico

I was up on the motorized edges there with people twice this summer, not my norm. Beautiful country but the steady stream of people, and I do mean steady, going by was surprising. Not my cup of tea.

Osky

Same here

Planned on going to Rice Lake but had to put it off.

PM sent Osky

My hunting partner and I had our Newfie moose hunt cancelled

Here in Missouri we barley shut down they said The state said nonessential workers dont go to work here is some subsidized unemployment get outside and enjoy the out doors they even waived fishing liscence requirements . The crush of people[ many from states that were shut down ] on the lakes rivers was unreal . If Canada had not closed the boarder you would of had a record year .

Absolutely. Between Minnesotans getting covid money and money saved not going on vacations south last winter combined with the hot economy I think Canada lost out big time. Instead here in northern MN I thought I would never see in my lifetime the number of atv and side by sides on the trails here this past summer. New boats everywhere. I guess people stayed home and spent.
I could not get across this fall for the snow goose migration with my groups either. I know safety but what a revenue loss up there.

Osky

Our group had our first week of sept fishing trip canceled. Re schedualed for 2021 but might be canceled again.

Planned a trip with another couple to go to Alaska and were going to sail out of Vancouver. That was canceled. Would have like to do a bear hunt in Manitoba last spring again canceled.

I know a handful of guides that work in the industry, some of them filled taxes with the tips included, others did not.
Those that made over 5000$ were able to get government CERB payments others were s.o.l.

Going forward will be interesting. Especially for the lodges financing
I think that "Saskatchewan goose killing machine" on here said was not much completion for the fields

it would be fair to say any lodge or guide service could take their last 3 years average it and that would be a very close number of people they would have had this year.

so many places have 75% or more repeat business same groups or families either every year or every other year.

the US economy was Great , the Canadian dollar was cheap there was only one reason to not go to Canada Fishing in 2020 on a trip booked in 2019 and that was covid and border closing

Sixteen of us from Kansas got a July trip pushed into 2021.

This is the first year I haven’t hunted in Canada because of covid. All the other years it was because I couldn’t afford it

Had our bear hunt canceled. Rescheduled for next fall

There should be more and bigger animals. Hopefully you guys don’t have a bunch of money out there.

My cousin and I had wanted to go to Canada this last summer fishing... but couldn't happen

Garry-

$ame problem$

Had a September Moose hunt cancelled to next year.

Our group has been deer hunting Northwest Ontario for years. Some in our group bought guided hunts others did a diy hunt on crownlands. The outfitter we used to rent cabins from told us years ago, that USA hunters and fishermen from WI,MI, MN were their bread and butter.

Also, we had a Quebec walleye fishing trip cancelled this past summer.

We now have leased land in the Midwest USA, and if that works out, and if and when the border opens, we will likely not go back to Canada.

In 2018 and 2019 I was in Canada to hunt and fish nine times each year. In 2020, zero.

Couldn’t go to our cabin in NW Ontario this year. Still paid the property tax so they didn’t miss out on that $100, but the beer store missed out for sure. Lol.

If you are a US citizen and own a business, such as a fishing/hunting camp in Canada you are allowed to cross. You need to quarantine for 14 days and they call to try and make sure your home. No restrictions coming back this way, other than recommendations.

Every second cabin in Sioux Narrows Ontario did not have the porch lights on this summer.

Where did you get this info? I heard that resort owners were not allowed to go through, and some weren't even able to open their camps. As you know, LOTS of resort owners live in the US during the winter.

A buddy of mine from WI who owns a Lodge went back and forth several times this summer. Came to Lincoln NE for a race of some kind around the 4th and I asked him about it. He said he needed his work permit and proof of ownership to get into Canada and just his passport to get back to US. They were told to get work permit prior to showing up at boarder as they expected long lines for the ones who normally picked them up at the boarder. I think it opened to them in late May or early June.

A few friends and I were planning a spring bear hunt, had to cancel it though.

On the bright side, there should be some pretty fancy fishing up there the next few years. A lot of lakes I know should benefit from a year off of the constant pressure.

With this c-19 the restaurant trade is otf using walleye and they closed the season on Lake Winnipeg (temporally) and raised the gill mesh size, so that will help. That's 500++ non residents a day that cant come for awhile.