The Stock Markets are speaking

Even as they count votes.


Waaaayyyyy up in pre-market.

They best not get too confident yet! They stopped counting votes at 11:00 last night for a good reason, and it's not because they were tired.

some did

Covid cases are up and rising, even with a Trump win Democrat Governors can stall out many states economies by instituting lock downs again. Watching this one from the sidelines

IMO, two things hurt Trump. The pandemic was disastrous. If not for Covid19, he would have had an easy win. He had accomplished a lot amid 4 years of never ending harassment from the left and main stream media.

The other thing that really hurt him was his tweeting. He refused to listen to his advisors who told him to stay off twitter.

The market is just glad it is nearly over. Even better, they are glad that no matter who is president, overall government will be divided.

The best we can hope for is a government that can do little harm because it is not unified against us.

***********Yup....

The market is glad the Senate is not controlled by the Dems. Rather, there are checks in place that will prevent extreme stupid.

It makes the president a moot point, in many respects

This ^ is indeed true. The next few years will be a tough go though.

I'd say the writing is on the wall which way the demographic is creeping and what lies ahead a few years down the road..

Right and it's not good.

Unfortunately, the stock market is not counting the votes in NV, MI and WI. If Biden wins those three (as he's looking like he will), then its over.

I agree , no silver lining here.

We were already on a road to disaster before Trump .

Trump was a nice pitstop , a time to prepare

If he pulls this out it will be another good 4 yrs

If Biden wins it's full speed ahead towards the cliff

People say volumes when they spend or invest their money- good point Mark

Jerome Powell is far more important to the market than either Trump or Biden

I'm much more concerned about how the Supreme Court has failed to protect the Constitution and therefore the American people, especially rural Americans than what the stock market is doing today. All the money in the world won't make me happy if I can't live like I want.

Going to have to raise interest rates to slow down this booming economy. 33% is ten times the target of 3%.

Fox is calling (almost) Wisconsin for Biden

Gun stocks(ruger and smith and wesson) and Sportsman warehouse down over 10% today.

Up nearly 2000 this week...

True about the tweeting

Tweeting didn’t hurt anything. The stupid people of these united states hurt themselves.

And the third thing that hurt him was not reponding to the advice of Dr Burke and Dr Fauci. A lot of republicans wrote in Mitt Romney because of Trump turning his back on this pandemic. If he would have acted in a reponsible manner, he would have already had his victory celebration.

Coming from New York. Go figure.
Faucci was an expert puppet that changed his mind once a week.

Just further proof that a lot of Americans are morons.

I still can not wrap my head around the fact that so many on this site choose chains over freedom. Outdoorsmen that choose to vote for some "write in" nominee may just as well have voted for the team that openly have stated they want to take away our 2nd amendment freedoms. When you are GROWING UP, you learn that a unified team is stronger than a divided one. Sure things may not always go the way you want, but you are all working together for the collective good. Being butt hurt and undercutting the team has always seemed childish to me. There, rant over...

Yup........it's like watching a dog fight a coon, and putting your money on the cat that's watching from the tree.

The Trump tweet is the only unedited words from his mouth

He just says what we all think

It's straight up truth , no PC , no wondering what he really thinks

Thank God for the tweet ...



I guess some want a prez full of _hit

the stock market along with 72M+ americans glad to see trump about to lose

You are dreaming !

Bitcoin is booming because Biden is about to super dilute the dollar. Bitcoin is a hedge against inflation. Many wealthy investors have been legitimizing bitcoin lately and are starting to warm to it as well. Now they have more motivation.

No the stock market is glad that the senate is remaining republican controlled, it all but guarantees governmental gridlock for at least 2 years if Biden wins. The stock market likes gridlock.

Trump led us through the longest bull market in history, I don’t think Biden will top that. Though the dems will come up with excuses as to why the stock market tanks, blame trump more than likely. The media will agree and kiss the lefts tush for the next 4 years like they did Obama and Clinton.

Exactly !

Only a juvenile would believe that the market favors higher taxes and more regulation ! Ridiculous !

I admire that. You're being kind and show great restraint.

What the market hates is uncertainty. Once the winner is certain, whichever man it is, the market will go up.

Jim

I agree Jim !! At least for a while. Then, if it's Biden you will see a sell off because of the tax issues, and regulations.

I'm beginning to think that every now and then the boss releases a sheep into the Lions den just for the fun of it

I agree with you too!

See, there are things we can agree on.

Jim

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Wont matter who wins the dollar will be super diluted, it's been happening for over a year.

Except that Trump won. That's why the swing states quit counting the votes at 11:00. Now they're trying to pull cards out of their sleeves for Biden. This will be decided in the Supreme Court.

Bitcoin nearly hit 16000 last night. Back to 15500 atm

Wow. I bet you also sided with the Democrats way back when this first started and went against Trump when he talked about blocking visitors from Chinia.

You also have a short memory than can't remember what someone said a week to the next.Facui changed his recomendations ever few weeks, often recommending the opposite of his recomendations from a few weeks before.

You also must have no personal experience with covid and buy into what the media tells you. My mother in her 60s with cancer and on radiation and chemotherapy got covid. So did my mother-in-law in her 60s with heart and lung problems. I was exposed for days of close contact as was my father in law.

If you believe the media my mother and mother-in-law should be dead and I should have easily contracted it. But they are both fine got over it like a cold in a week or 2. I never got it nor did my FATHER-IN-LAW. I was tested 2 times.

Now I got 100% conflicting instructions between the Dr and health departments during my quarantines. The health department told me different things daily contradicting the day before.

But somehow you seem to believed someone else would handle it better? It's easy to arm chair quarterback and complane. Getting solutions and a plan is much harder especially when the recomendations change repetitively. Ther is no magic wand and saying do something is not a plan.


Edit: I agree tweeting hurt and covid is the only reason Democrats were even in the running.

Well said Providence Farm... The only thing I have to add is for as long as I can remember, Republicans have been asking why Republicans in ALL offices wouldn't stand up to the loud-mouthed, obnoxious Democrats. Only once in my memory have we ever had anyone that came close and that was Reagan. Now when we finally get someone in office that has the guts to stand up to the whinny-butts, they say it is too much. Maybe Trump got carried away a few times, but when he did... I cheered him on.

Garry-

You can have your fauci burke kanela and basement boy what a JOKE I'LL never have any redpect.for them.

Trump is for American and American's

Sheep? How bout a whole flock of them! Where are they all coming from? How can a trapper or outdoorsman be happy about this election?

They likely see the fur market coming back when the Trump trade war with the biggest consumer of our fur ends,

The sheep we're talking about don't trap

Pretty sure even Biden can't make oil prices go to 200 a barrel that would be required to seriously help fur prices

*This assumes relatively stable USD strength.

I'm not sure any President controls the price of Oil. I know prices were good under the last one.

Bit coin went up because the feds took a million dollars worth out of circulation. It had been sitting in an account since they shut down the silk road.

Bitcoin has a total combined value of 160 Billion, a million taken out of circulation is not even news worthy.

Sorry to upset you but it did make the news .It was on market watch and they said it drove the price of bit coin up. But what do they know?

It wasn't a million, it was a billion. Those coins had been sitting idle for some time. Once the Feds finish the confiscation process they will be sold back into circulation.

Marktwatch doesnt have a clue, gold and silver went up this week as well. I don't think any was taken out of circulation.

Sorry about the amount. Market watch doesn't have a clue and you no more than them because you get your investing advice from?

I don't get my bitcoin "advice" from market watch.

Those coins haven't been in circulation since at least 2015, once the Feds seizure process is complete they will be auctioned back to the public.

In essence the feds will be putting them back into circulation.

Bitcoin is up over 400 percent from it's low in March. See the trend?

If you look at all the other cryptos, they are all surging this week.

There are several dedicated news sites related to cryptos that have better info.

Could you post one? I would really like to find out more information.

You know what I meant. Certain policies and wild spending, not that Trump spent like a drunken sailor like everybody else, could send oil soaring.

coindesk.com
decrypt.co <<not a typo
theblockcrypto.com

those are the main ones

The last one (meaning Obama) $100/ barrel

Trump spent like a drunken sailor like the last guy ( meaning Obama). Deficit spending, they both excelled at. The next one will too. The one after him also. We are on a path.

Thanks.

I agree with Dirt. The mob will settle for nothing less.

Could someone post a pic of a bitcoin? I might start a bitcoin bank on my counter.

Same people that have been killing us off with the virus they released.

Screw ‘em.

Screw'em.

With a very big screw!

you're delusional.

the wild fur market was in the tank long before Trump took office.

read: ranched fur.

^^Was the fur market not good then in say 2013-2015ish. Quite sure it was with my own experience. Many of our furs were being purchased from China. That’s a fact.

We were also 80-100 dollar a barrel in oil and the Russian Ruble was twice as strong than it is now

And the chinese fur buyers were cheating the chinese import tarriffs on the fur they were bringing in till they got caught and then things crashed.

No, you're delusional.

To borrow a phrase from White17, " Andy is inexperienced. "

That's putting it nicely. Pretty sure Andy would like for Biden to sniff his hair.

Take a hike Gary. Your guy lost, and he knew he was going to. Take your ball and go home. He and you have been whimpering for months about a possible loss, and luckily it came true. Have a great day..

You 'mericans are funny and amusing as heck to watch..lol

An actual biden supporter, folks. Sad, but true.

It’s not going to be good 4 years. Wait till Kamala takes over when Biden gets put out to pasture

Apparently Andy's mommy doesn't let him play with guns.