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Won't need as many vaccine doses !

Posted By: jbyrd63

Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 03:22 PM

They keep talking about how many vaccines they are going to have to have in order to cover the US. But they never say the one important factor. IF YOU HAVE already had covid you are not eligible to receive one according to the medical experts .At the rate they are reporting new cases by the time the vaccines roll out in any numbers the majority of the country will be dead or over it !!!!
Posted By: TraderVic

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 03:25 PM

Everyone who wants the Covid-19 vaccine will receive it.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 03:29 PM

Probably but my point is by the time they manufacture enough for the population the need won't be as high because of "their " guidelines....
Posted By: TraderVic

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 03:39 PM

Not sure where you're getting your information ("their guidelines"), but how do you know this to be true ?
Even if one has had the virus, they should still receive the vaccine if the want it.
Posted By: H2ORat

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by TraderVic
Everyone who wants the Covid-19 vaccine will receive it.

And you can keep your doctor and your medical plan too -- I don't want and will not take the vaccine so it is good news to me. Doing the math on the vaccines oregon is expecting and the health care workers that are the first in line - they are figuring a little over a year to get them done.
Posted By: John C

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 04:03 PM

I’ll take it. I’ll be the first if that’s what it takes to get this crap over and done with.
Posted By: Canvasback2

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 04:12 PM

I heard one report saying that if you had Covid, and recovered from it, they want that person to wait 3 months after they last tested negative for the Virus/ After the 3 months are up, then they can get the Vaccines.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by TraderVic
Not sure where you're getting your information ("their guidelines"), but how do you know this to be true ?
Even if one has had the virus, they should still receive the vaccine if the want it.


Don't you ever watch fox news? It has been on all the networks. Fauci and the Health Czar both said people that had recovered where low priority and Fauci said chances are if you had it and recovered more than likely it wouldn't help you until next year . The shot does the same thing inside your body as fighting off the virus. It makes your body produces anti bodies to lessen the severity or completely prevent the symptoms !
Posted By: MJM

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 04:41 PM

Fauci is Bill Gates talking puppet. Bill Gates says he can control the world population with vaccines. Line on up.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by TraderVic
Not sure where you're getting your information ("their guidelines"), but how do you know this to be true ?
Even if one has had the virus, they should still receive the vaccine if the want it.


Don't you ever watch fox news? It has been on all the networks. Fauci and the Health Czar both said people that had recovered where low priority and Fauci said chances are if you had it and recovered more than likely it wouldn't help you until next year . The shot does the same thing inside your body as fighting off the virus. It makes your body produces anti bodies to lessen the severity or completely prevent the symptoms !




As usual Fauci is full of it. Doctors and scientists doing the studies say that people that have recovered from the virus will likely have immunity for many years...not just one. Just going by the data I have seen, I dont see why anyone who has recovered would want or need to take the vaccine, and you are right, thats a lot of people.

My question is still why they are not allowing more widespread use of the drugs like Ivermectin. In one nursing home in Ontario they had an outbreak of scabies on the 4th floor of a nursing home. They gave all of the residents Ivermectin. Those on the 4th floor got the highest dose. Then a month later they had a covid outbreak. Not one person on the 4th floor got covid! Even though they had lots of co-morbidities. Of the other residents that got lower doses only a few of them got covid, and then only mild cases. Meanwhile the staff who never took Ivermectin were infected. What would the outcome have been if all nursing homes were given these meds??
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 05:18 PM

I am becoming more and more convinced thus vaccine ain't gonna change crap.
Posted By: Tailhunter

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by John C
I’ll take it. I’ll be the first if that’s what it takes to get this crap over and done with.


You can have mine.
Posted By: Crit-R-Dun

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 05:29 PM

The roll out will be much slower in Canada I expect. It'll be well tested on seniors, front line health care and first nation folks before us low priority types get an opportunity to step up.
Posted By: charles

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 06:36 PM

After two thirds of us have have the vaccine, the other third will have the virus all to themselves. Wonder how that will feel, knowing you are next.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 06:46 PM

I can see the TV adds now

" if you or a loved one have taken the Pfizer vaccine in 2021, you may be entitled to compensation " Blah Blah Blah
Posted By: ILcooner

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 06:48 PM

vaccine likely going to be required to cross country borders or by many companies if you want to work there
Posted By: martentrapper

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by ILcooner
vaccine likely going to be required to cross country borders or by many companies if you want to work there


I'll second that.
Posted By: ky_coyote_hunter

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by ILcooner
vaccine likely going to be required to cross country borders or by many companies if you want to work there

They can't legally require it until it's FDA approved ....Key word right there, the lying corrupt media has been reporting it's approved...It is not.

It is FDA authorized due to emergency conditions.

It would be a legal nightmare to force people to take the vaccine without FDA approval.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
The roll out will be much slower in Canada I expect. It'll be well tested on seniors, front line health care and first nation folks before us low priority types get an opportunity to step up.


Maybe, but Yukon is supposed to have 50k doses by late January.
Posted By: cat daddy

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Tailhunter
Originally Posted by John C
I’ll take it. I’ll be the first if that’s what it takes to get this crap over and done with.


You can have mine.


Mine too
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:14 PM

i remember the days the someone breathed all over a cake and blew out the candles that we then all would eat. Wild times. Living on the edge stuff right there
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Originally Posted by ILcooner
vaccine likely going to be required to cross country borders or by many companies if you want to work there

They can't legally require it until it's FDA approved ....Key word right there, the lying corrupt media has been reporting it's approved...It is not.

It is FDA authorized due to emergency conditions.

It would be a legal nightmare to force people to take the vaccine without FDA approval.

I would think so , Yes
Posted By: waggler

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:16 PM

Why would I want the vaccine? The antibodies I have will keep me safe for at least seven months and possibly much longer they are now saying, and give me 99.8% protection. Why would I want a vaccine that gives me 95% protection, and we don't know how it will interact with the antibodies I already have. No thanks, not for me at least.
Posted By: rick54

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:31 PM

If you can't trust a government to run a truthful and honest election... how can you trust them to be honest and truthful in a "warpspeed" development program of a pandemic vaccine? With that said, the question that has to be asked then is, do I want to be one of the first in line to take the vaccine?

How many souls do we have here that are willing to climb over everyone else in order to be first in line for their vaccine?
Posted By: H2ORat

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:40 PM

What I noticed is that our govt removed the legal liabillity for the companies producing these -- --- WHY? because you can't sue the govt. Is phizer donating all of the research and development costs as well as the drug costs for the good of the greater good of the people? How much as a taxpayer do you think this is going to cost us (you and I are paying for it) ?
Posted By: adam m

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:44 PM

Has anyone read what the trial patients now have. Some now have cerebral palsy for starters.
One of the side effects is severe reproductive problems. In women it attacks the cells that are responsible for the placenta. So if you and your spouse want kids grandkids stay away from the vaccine.

Also the vaccine hasn't been tested on the frail or elderly.
Posted By: ILcooner

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:45 PM

It's not the boogey man. It has killed 298,000 + Americans YTD. I act with wisdom not fear.

Too early to say how long the immunity lasts.... There have been many documented cases of people getting it a second time months apart.

Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
So if I have already had covid, I have immunity. If some of you think I should get the shot anyways, it is a waste of money, a vaccination, and time.

It is selfish of those of you out there to tell a person who is already immune to get the shot. What if that wasted shot on you would have saved another person's grandmother's life?

I swear, the way some of y'all consider this covid as the boogeyman absolutely astounds me.

If I have already had covid, my body has been through the same process as if I had taken the vaccine. i have immunity now. It is a waste of time and selfish to make me take it.

I cannot comprehend how some of you don't understand this simple concept.
Posted By: elkaholic

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 07:47 PM

I would bet that there are going to be countries that are going to have a rule that you have to show proof of vaccination to enter.

As far as immunity. Didn't Nick Saban get it twice??
Posted By: tlguy

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 08:30 PM

I'm home with Rona right now, have to be out of work and quarantined through Thursday. Finally lost my taste/smell today after showing first symptoms on 12/7. I went and got tested so I now have proof I had it in case vaccinations become mandatory for things like work or travel.

That proof of covid should also make my plasma more valuable.
Posted By: keystone

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
i remember the days the someone breathed all over a cake and blew out the candles that we then all would eat. Wild times. Living on the edge stuff right there


Crazy times your talking about, that was all the way back in 2019!!!
Posted By: nate

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 09:58 PM

Ya it's killed that many just as Biden got more votes than any other president it's a crock and the people that believe it are pathetic.
Posted By: nramemb

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by John C
I’ll take it. I’ll be the first if that’s what it takes to get this crap over and done with.

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Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 10:50 PM

It'll change the amount of money in big pharma's pockets & a bunch of bad stuff for a lot of guinea pig people
Posted By: ILcooner

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 11:12 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/technology/coronavirus-vaccine-apps.html

vaccination certificates are coming soon...

In the coming weeks, major airlines including United, JetBlue and Lufthansa plan to introduce a health passport app, called CommonPass, that aims to verify passengers’ virus test results — and soon, vaccinations. The app will then issue confirmation codes enabling passengers to board certain international flights. It is just the start of a push for digital Covid-19 credentials that could soon be embraced by employers, schools, summer camps and entertainment venues.

“This is likely to be a new normal need that we’re going to have to deal with to control and contain this pandemic,” said Dr. Brad Perkins, the chief medical officer at the Commons Project Foundation, a nonprofit in Geneva that developed the CommonPass app.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 11:38 PM

I wonder if non vaccine takers will be treated as lepers or have to wear a Star of David(mask) in public?
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 11:51 PM

Maybe the sheeple are just blindly following their algorithmic media feed? Maybe.

I am going to also bet there won’t be people entering certain countries without it.
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/13/20 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by ILcooner
It's not the boogey man. It has killed 298,000 + Americans YTD. I act with wisdom not fear.

Too early to say how long the immunity lasts.... There have been many documented cases of people getting it a second time months apart.

Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
So if I have already had covid, I have immunity. If some of you think I should get the shot anyways, it is a waste of money, a vaccination, and time.

It is selfish of those of you out there to tell a person who is already immune to get the shot. What if that wasted shot on you would have saved another person's grandmother's life?

I swear, the way some of y'all consider this covid as the boogeyman absolutely astounds me.

If I have already had covid, my body has been through the same process as if I had taken the vaccine. i have immunity now. It is a waste of time and selfish to make me take it.

I cannot comprehend how some of you don't understand this simple concept.


There has always been lots of things killing people.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by rick54
If you can't trust a government to run a truthful and honest election... how can you trust them to be honest and truthful in a "warpspeed" development program of a pandemic vaccine? With that said, the question that has to be asked then is, do I want to be one of the first in line to take the vaccine?

How many souls do we have here that are willing to climb over everyone else in order to be first in line for their vaccine?


Two different sides of government involved. Dems stole the election
Trump headed warp speed !!!!
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by elkaholic
I would bet that there are going to be countries that are going to have a rule that you have to show proof of vaccination to enter.

As far as immunity. Didn't Nick Saban get it twice??

No first was a false positive . He was on field coaching 3 days after his first positive because the next day he had a negative followed by another neg day after.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:17 AM

Where lots of early deaths labeled covid for more money. You bet , Is it real YES. You guys that want to mouth on here it's a hoax , leading sheep , ect Want you to just ask a er nurse or ICU Dr what it is like. Even if the numbers are HALF what they are saying it is bad. Some rant" the numbers are inflated" I have had 3 neighbors and an aunt that had it. 1 guy next door spent 5 days in ICU . Told me he was sure he would die and was suffering so much he hoped he could.
My aunt is 73 and had 12 days of non-stop diarreah and had to go to er for fluids 5 times in 17 days. She ran a fever of 102 or higher the entire time. The dr said the fever helps to kill the virus so let it stay up but try to keep it under 104. Tylenol is all that would budge it.
Posted By: elkaholic

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by elkaholic
I would bet that there are going to be countries that are going to have a rule that you have to show proof of vaccination to enter.

As far as immunity. Didn't Nick Saban get it twice??

No first was a false positive . He was on field coaching 3 days after his first positive because the next day he had a negative followed by another neg day after.



Thanks. Didn't know the first one was a falsie. Just heard he tested positive, then nothing else.
Posted By: BandB

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Where lots of early deaths labeled covid for more money. You bet , Is it real YES. You guys that want to mouth on here it's a hoax , leading sheep , ect Want you to just ask a er nurse or ICU Dr what it is like. Even if the numbers are HALF what they are saying it is bad. Some rant" the numbers are inflated" I have had 3 neighbors and an aunt that had it. 1 guy next door spent 5 days in ICU . Told me he was sure he would die and was suffering so much he hoped he could.
My aunt is 73 and had 12 days of non-stop diarreah and had to go to er for fluids 5 times in 17 days. She ran a fever of 102 or higher the entire time. The dr said the fever helps to kill the virus so let it stay up but try to keep it under 104. Tylenol is all that would budge it.


So, did they all make it? I hope so.
Posted By: Ole

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 04:45 AM

it takes an awful lot more staffing and equipment to tend a person in ICU and I suspect all on ventilators are in ICU. So it stands to reason that hospitals would be reimbursed accordingly.
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Tailhunter
Originally Posted by John C
I’ll take it. I’ll be the first if that’s what it takes to get this crap over and done with.


You can have mine.



Mine too, if one is good , two must be better .....lol
Posted By: Quartermastersir

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 05:38 AM

I was listening to our Evil Neighbor 830WCCOam this morning and I thought the Dr. on the show said that if you get the vaccine they are not sure if you can't still spread Covid??!!??
Has anybody heard anything vaguely familiar to this or did I just misunderstand what was said?
Somebody called in to state that he has had covid, as have many, then stated his frustration that there is so little information on what happens after you have had it, the dr. said that's because "we just don't know"
I don't know squat about covid other than i don't wanna get it, but seems like the experts are pretty confused about it too.
Posted By: waggler

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 08:59 AM

^^^^^^
Quartermaster

I don't know your health status, but if you aren't elderly, don't smoke or have compromised lung issues from something else, then, according to my doctor "you have nothing to worry about". I'm 62 and had it back in September and recovered just fine. Overall it wasn't that bad, the flues that I have had were way more debilitating. However, some of the symptoms were a little weird and unsettling. It's kind of hard to explain it but I could tell the virus was moving through my body almost like it was poking around and messing with various things for a couple of days, then moving on to somethin else; not like any sickness I have ever experienced before.

But now that it's behind me (it took about two weeks to get back to 100%) I'm happy that I contracted it. I now have a 99.8% chance that the antibodies I now have will protect me from getting it again. It really is a relief.

If you are fairly healthy don't worry about it.

BTW, I now know at least 20 people (all friends) who have had it with no complications or hospitalization ; some of the are guys in their 70's.
Posted By: Snowpa

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 11:28 AM





My question is still why they are not allowing more widespread use of the drugs like Ivermectin. In one nursing home in Ontario they had an outbreak of scabies on the 4th floor of a nursing home. They gave all of the residents Ivermectin. Those on the 4th floor got the highest dose. Then a month later they had a covid outbreak. Not one person on the 4th floor got covid! Even though they had lots of co-morbidities. Of the other residents that got lower doses only a few of them got covid, and then only mild cases. Meanwhile the staff who never took Ivermectin were infected. What would the outcome have been if all nursing homes were given these meds??[/quote]

From what I hear lots of Parkinson's
Posted By: Crit-R-Dun

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ole
it takes an awful lot more staffing and equipment to tend a person in ICU and I suspect all on ventilators are in ICU. So it stands to reason that hospitals would be reimbursed accordingly.


I think what the poster is suggesting is that Doctors are falsely diagnosing covid in order to fill ICU units with patients on ventilators for financial benefit to the hospital, likewise why death certificates are falsified as covid related.
Posted By: MJM

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:28 PM

I heard they are lumping pneumonia, and influenza deaths in with Rona deaths now and calling it PIC. It is what they were doing all along, but they just called it a rona death's before. The numbers are be getting too low and people are not buying off on this BS. Follow the money back to Bill gates.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 01:42 PM

Canadian doctors are starting to speak out now too. This guy is getting some press in western Canada now. I know the naysayers will dis-regard everything he says but they shouldnt. He is a frontline doctor and he is calling it like he sees it.

https://www.westernstandardonline.c..._2BsFiFL6zw1J0IHlVoxAooLZR0QcwQ8EM7W7FSE
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/14/20 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by BandB
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Where lots of early deaths labeled covid for more money. You bet , Is it real YES. You guys that want to mouth on here it's a hoax , leading sheep , ect Want you to just ask a er nurse or ICU Dr what it is like. Even if the numbers are HALF what they are saying it is bad. Some rant" the numbers are inflated" I have had 3 neighbors and an aunt that had it. 1 guy next door spent 5 days in ICU . Told me he was sure he would die and was suffering so much he hoped he could.
My aunt is 73 and had 12 days of non-stop diarreah and had to go to er for fluids 5 times in 17 days. She ran a fever of 102 or higher the entire time. The dr said the fever helps to kill the virus so let it stay up but try to keep it under 104. Tylenol is all that would budge it.


So, did they all make it? I hope so.


YES Thank God!
Posted By: GregPaulman

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 08:26 PM

When I got my rabies vaccine I figured that would protect me from darn near anything! Then I fell on the ice and couldn't get up!!!!
Posted By: Bigbrownie

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 08:27 PM

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Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 08:47 PM

If there are actually as many new cases daily as being reported then we are experiencing herd immunity beginning..
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
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No matter which side you're on, this is pretty funny. grin
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Tailhunter
Originally Posted by John C
I’ll take it. I’ll be the first if that’s what it takes to get this crap over and done with.


You can have mine.



Mine too

Might as well triple down .....lol
Posted By: Abu65

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by waggler
Why would I want the vaccine? The antibodies I have will keep me safe for at least seven months and possibly much longer they are now saying, and give me 99.8% protection. Why would I want a vaccine that gives me 95% protection, and we don't know how it will interact with the antibodies I already have. No thanks, not for me at least.



They say that a lot of people have had the virus but didn't know it. Wonder if they will have to do an antibody test prior to getting the vaccine? Just makes me curious.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 10:50 PM

I had lab work done yesterday and the lab here (labcorp) is automatically testing for anti bodies if you want them to. NO extra charge.
Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 10:50 PM

Check this out. Things may be far worse for the plandemic. ugetube - "this is what they have planned for you in 2025 to 2028 - welcome to your futur.mp4" . (yes ugetube is correct name)
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/24/20 10:52 PM

Yep 150,000 cases yesterday . 150,000 less vaccines needed !!!
If they hadn't shut down in march herd immunity would have been reached. Same number probably dead ? Who knows .
Posted By: white17

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 02:08 AM

To even approach the minimum for herd immunity...if there is such a thing with this virus, we would need about seven hundred thousand new cases each day for a year.
Posted By: WadeRyan

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 02:13 AM

They are still suggesting you receive the vaccine if you've have Covid. I know a number of front line workers that have had Covid and received the vaccine this week. I believe their only suggestion was to wait 90 days since you've had Covid if at all possible since you should have antibodies and be protected. Allow someone that hasn't had Covid to get your vaccine in the meantime.
Posted By: charles

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 02:15 AM

Hospital employee breaking in line at local hospital to get the shot.
Posted By: aknome

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 02:21 AM

I got my first covid shot two days ago so I guess Bill Gates is my new best buddy.
Posted By: WadeRyan

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by charles
Hospital employee breaking in line at local hospital to get the shot.

Oh Charles, my stance hasn't changed since this thing started or while we went through a couple solid rounds of it. We saw sick people, we were full, and I'd say over 99% of them survived. Guess what? We see sick people, we are full, and over 99% of the people survive this time of the year, every year. I've held back because honestly what I say won't change any of your minds but this thing has done far more damage to our economy and people's chronic health issues then it ever would have on its own. If this hadn't been an election year most of you probably wouldn't even know what Covid 19 was.

People have died and that's unfortunate but it's a fact of life. The circus that started last spring hasn't helped the health of the United States citizens. I can say that with 100% confidence.
Posted By: FairbanksLS

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 02:26 AM

When I go home no covid test or self quarantine as long as I have proof of my positive test result within the past 90 days. I'm thinking a t-shirt with my covid positive date screen printed on it just to put others at ease.
Posted By: Iowagian

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Where lots of early deaths labeled covid for more money. You bet , Is it real YES. You guys that want to mouth on here it's a hoax , leading sheep , ect Want you to just ask a er nurse or ICU Dr what it is like. Even if the numbers are HALF what they are saying it is bad. Some rant" the numbers are inflated" I have had 3 neighbors and an aunt that had it. 1 guy next door spent 5 days in ICU . Told me he was sure he would die and was suffering so much he hoped he could.
My aunt is 73 and had 12 days of non-stop diarreah and had to go to er for fluids 5 times in 17 days. She ran a fever of 102 or higher the entire time. The dr said the fever helps to kill the virus so let it stay up but try to keep it under 104. Tylenol is all that would budge it.


Since we are telling stories, I'll tell mine. My mother is 101, been in a care center 3 years now. A week ago she tested positive. Never knew it. Not so much as a sniffle but she got isolated.....even more than she has been already! Confined to her room only! We don't treat animals like this! 101 years old tested positive for Covid and didn't even know it! The flu went through the same care center last winter. Five residents passed away. Weird....nobody was kept from seeing their family members then.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Won't need as many vaccine doses ! - 12/25/20 03:17 AM

I hope your mom comes out ok. Sad situation.
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