Biden gun confiscation plan begins

80% and kit manufacturer raided by ATF. End consumers threatened and home raided. If these were/are so bad why did the ATF wait until after Biden figured out a way to become, “President elect”.

Unless I’m mistaken, 80% lowers have been around for a year or two now. Kits have been around a while also.

Hang on.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb0FjDI0cNE



Owl

Wow. No one saw this coming, did they?

I am comforted knowing James has probably already filed a motion.

But Jim personally promised us this wouldn't happen.

No, he said he would throw money at it.

Correction, he only said about throwing money at it after it became clear he was wrong about it not happening in the first place.

Like most trolls, he moved the goalpost.

I

Lol wut? Are you serious? Trump is still president. If he didn't want this to happen, it wouldn't. Do you blame the bumpstock ban, "take the guns first, do due process later", and talking about banning suppressors on biden too?

Hopefully all the good Biden voting Americans will voluntarily turn over their “ghost” and 80% kit weapons. That should save everyone some time. It is after all what they voted for, is it not?



Owl

Don't you all that penny bouncing around ???

Election day he lost all power, fact. Before that all he could do is sway them, he isn't a king.

I think he might just be a little preoccupied at the moment. Maybe the rank insubordination is just a symptom.

His press conference where he's gonna speak against this is this afternoon, right?

He's in charge of the BATFE, they're under executive branch authority.

Was.....he's a lame duck now.

Somehow Biden gave the order even though we all know he won't be President. Or has this changed?

Still is, until January of next year. In any case.....when shall I expect him to speak about about this? Do you suppose he'll hold a press conference or just send out a tweet? Surely the most pro-2a president ever won't just let this slip by without saying something, right?

I'll bet his son is....think Biden's son is?

President Donald Trump is preoccupied right now trying to expose the democrats and foreign powers theft of the American Presidential election as you should very well know.

Keith

80% lowers have been around at least 6 years and probably several more.

Don't tell us that Obama allowed them but Trump is letting them be taken away.

Perhaps he is only giving people what they voted for.

Yep, and "keep an eye on him" too.

Just last year the ATF dropped charges against the fella who was making them with a CNC machine. Enter Biden and they do a 180Degree turn.

Don't worry, I'm sure trump will make sure they get their due process eventually, after their (non) guns get taken away.


It's really sad to watch this. You're a bunch of smart guys,.yet you've let this president take you down this dark path,to the point where you'll make any excuse for the guy, no matter how ridiculous. Come on, guys. It's okay to say trump shouldn't have let this happen, and still like him. Lol oil at yourselves and what you're.saying. Do you really believe any of it?

Truth

It won't happen. They can't do it.

I suppose Trump also sent the FBI to raid the Texas AG who brought the suit to the SCOTUS on election fraud.

There's spot of stupid going on, but it isn't the Trump supporters

I can and always have dumped on Trump over the bump stocks and his due process later comments. But what else should you expect from a New York Democrat?

That said He was and is way better then the alternative. They will be 1000s of times worse. Especially once they have all 3 branches and pack the courts.

Me too and no argument on him being the lesser of two evils when comparing him to Biden.

It's sad to see a group of otherwise intelligent rational and mostly like-minded folks put person before policy. We all know that the bumpstock ban was wrong and set a bad precedent, we all know he shouldn't have said take the guns first and give due process second, we all know he shouldn't have mentioned taking away silencers, and we all know it's wrong to let his BATFE get away with this while he's still in control. But finding a trump supporter who's able to admit any of that is as rare as hens teeth. Trump is obviously way better than Hillary would have been or than Biden will be on the 2a, anyone who thinks otherwise is a doofus. But that doesn't mean he's been awesome for the 2a either, and we all know it.

This is just the warm-up, wait until they have complete control.

Looking forward to it.

Look at yourselves. You're so in love with trump that you can't even admit he's still the president. You've come up with bizarre conspiracy that Biden is somehow commanding the BATFE.

I don’t think anyone is commanding them. I think they are doing as they want because they know nobody is going to stop them, including the courts.

Yep, goose needs to read Danny's link on the terrorism thread, Biden's gun control agenda from his website. Several pro gun regs Trump passed he will reverse along with ELIMINATING GHOST GUNS AND KITS. BATF already started his agenda.

Trump never led me down a path I didn't want to follow....America First

Kinda like the FBI has done for the last four plus years.... whatever they want to.

Everyone should know that all of these unconstitutional bureaucratic agencies ask presidents(lame duck ones at that) for permission before they act. Come on guys, you all are smart.

The bump stock thing was stupid, I didn't agree, maybe jeb bush would have done better, let's run him out there next time...he's got a lot of backbone, maybe try romney again. That'd make everyone happy...

You don't pay attention much do you?

We already have Comey, Struck, Paige, et al all executive branch employees in active illegal conspiracy against their CINC.
We have Barr on record as saying he has no control over the Justice Dept, another executive branch department.
Most recently we have senior DOD employees and Generals bragging about lying to the CINC in order to disobey his orders.

I know, I know fire the lot of them but what if they refuse to go? Or no one in the whole dam town backs his call?

What's he to do? Start shooting folks?

Joe Biden says:

"Nobody needs a machine gun to shoot a
tyrannical government oppressor in the leg"

Just use your shotgun !!!

Pretty good comment here, most of it anyway. I've learned in my life sometimes you gotta do certain things with where you stand to let the other side think they won. Maybe bumpstocks and suppressors should be a given. But I can give a little on them issues when it comes to fighting for my freedoms. As long as still have ammo and firepower to almost match the enemy. Now we all know most democrats want a total disarming of America. I've seen plenty video clips and audio recordings where their leaders made it well known of what their plans are. You can't have a socialist or communist country with an armed citizenship. The liberals know that. John Kennedy was a fairly strong supporter of the 2nd. But the democrats of that era do not even come close to the party that calls themselves democrats today. A lot will depend on what happens in Georgia, and I am certain if there was cheating and fraud in November it will be a sure thing in Jan. down there. This ain't over by a long shot.

Oh, it’s over.

80% parts kits have been around at least 30 years that I can remember you had to buy them in separate pieces on different pages of shotgun news.

80% arms is in the one that got raided , they got raided because they put all the parts you needed together in one kit , making it "too easy" they even included the jug and bits needed all you needed to supply was a drill.

there is NO reason to Raid a business who believed they were operating under the law , a cease and desist letter when they learned all the parts were being placed in a kit sold as one would have been appropriate.

so how the ATF handled this tells us a lot about their agenda

this is a mountain out of a mole hill

well at least this time the ATF didn't start by shooting all the dogs of the business owner.

It's started already. Ol gap tooth is all over the place crowing about how they won. Our balless wonder Raffensperger thought November was so fair he's greenlighted even more ballot drop boxes in Fulton county.
That and us conservatives are so disgusted we don't know whether to crap or get off the pot.

I'll do my part and double down getting others to but......

I wish you luck rowing against the current down there. I hope you’re not tired for nothing at the end of the day.

Why anyone owning guns would ever vote for this arse is just unthinkable....

#resist

If I had to guess it'll split.

Purdue, because his opponent john asshat has the charisma of wallpaper. Not that Perdue is any better but at least he can smile and his name is Perdue.

Warnock, well he's you know. That and he has this cute beagle. Beside's no one but Kemp wanted Loeffler in the first place.

Dumbest thing I have heard in years, I voted for Biden, own hundreds of guns, hunt trap and kill anything I can legally. I had to google what it was you guys were talking about (80% lower). Who the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) needs one of them?

Hope you are wrong for the GOBS. lol

Who the **** are you to tell me what I need and don't need -- go smoke another bowl.

Noted.

HT you have your list handy? Lol.

Enjoy the precedent he set with his bump stock ban. If you want to change legal definitions that needs to go through the legislature. Banning accessories and making tens if thousands of law abiding gun owners law breakers over night and not even offering compensation.

Biden and friends will have a lot of fun with that.

On 2nd thought maybe Biden is better. At least he wants to give you the option to put it on the NFA registry or buy it so at least you get something for your property or you can pay register and keep it.


I voted for Trump 3 times once in the primary and twice for president. But I'm have no problem addressing his shortcomings. Some just wear blinders

stupid is everlasting

YOU said it, Brother!

Hmm you mean like the 4 battleground states changed voting laws without legislative input?

Who needs a snare? Or a 330? Fill in the blank.

Who needs a snare? Or a 330? Fill in the blank.

You do realize that it has always been perfectly legal to make your own firearms don't you?

Both are wrong......would you agree?

Right here on the workbench. lol

Yep, exactly. Funny how Trump wants to follow the process when it benifits him.

Voting for creepy joe is unbelievably dumb, I'll give you that.

Well that plonker made it instantly onto my list lol

Too funny! Trump's administration does something you don't like, so blame Biden.

I suppose Biden was also behind banning bump stocks.

Jim

You and HT might need to right a book. The list is probably getting quite long. lol

What knucklehead thinks Trump wants to ban 80% lowers,95% of WDC voted for Biden but I'm sure they are just following Trumps orders. This is just another example of the swamp carrying out their agenda.

So why doesn't your idol put a stop to it? He's the one in charge.

Jim

stop gloating and stating the obvious-- oh wait that is what lawyers do.

Don't feed the trolls