Front door gun

Didn't want to spend alot on a gun I hope I never use , so I snagged this one for 229

Thats a front door Gun!

Pest control you should be able to write that off. LOL

Not sure if I should muddy it up with a sling or not ?

What say you?

no sling but maybe a bayonet

That'll splatter some antifa gutts

X2

What about the backdoor gun ? Gotta cover all your bases......lol

I need one..

Yeah , gonna pack it in my truck when I need to travel through some BLM......

What load is in the tube and what load for the follow up(s) if needed?

Chris

Lol! That was my first thought too!

All 00 at the moment

I been thinking I need to invest in one of those

That will do it!

Chris

I talked with some contractors from Iraq they went buck then slug then buck and so on. The idea was if you can’t shoot through it, shoot under it to get to the legs.

what make and model?

yes a definitely a sling if it ever leaves the front door I would include if you use it outside the front door and the police show up you want to retain your gun but keep your hands free

a sling is a holster for a shotgun

some times you want that gun with but need to do something

some times your just headed for the truck but have other gear in your hands

the sling that has a quick pull tab so you can have it across cross body out of the way and pull the tab and it expands to be long enough you can bring it around and into a firing position

possibly a condor speedy 2 point it goes form short to longer in a hurry adding 10-12 inches to the sling if you decide you want it off it has quick clips at each end

or any sling old sling you have if it can be just long enough to get over a shoulder but still relatively out of the way is better than nothing


are you adding a light? lights are nice

slugs over pernitrate and buck spreads a lot

not really a wrong answer just maybe one better for you

one near by PD went to all slugs as they have only one projectile to be responsible for , buck spreads and if your shooting and you hit with 8 and that 9th pellet flyer misses your still responsible for it

another department went all #4 buck as it tended to only go through one wall and not several

another pd went 223 with Hornady Urban TAP basically a 55gr V-Max one of the concerns is if they are serving a warrant in the trailer park and they have use it they didn't want to have to worry as much about it penetrating 2-3 trailers one was going to be bad enough

everyone needs to think about their most likely and make the best decision they can

When you go adding lights and lasers and breaching ports it looks like you’re planning to do battle. I’d rather have a plain Jane 12ga shot gun with #4 birdshot it looks like I set my hunting gun beside the bed. That’s is a good gun like it is!

#00 buck is roughly the size of a 9mm bullet. Have 9 of those fly through the house can be dangerous. #4 bird shot at 10 feet even out of a cylinder bore is going to be like a slug but it won’t penetrate through 21 walls of drywall.

At 10 feet the 12ga is a very effective weapon no matter what shot it has in it.

lasers and breaching standoffs and cosmetic stuff I agree

but holding the light and the shotgun or any gun at the same time is a real pain so a light and a sling I see as a benefit.

click on the light and focus on the target not loosing your grip on the light or having it pointed off target

target ID is critically important a guy I used to work for he had been a buy agent with Narcotics in the late 70s he heard movement in the house grabs his gun and heads for the hall hears them coming around the corner he at least had the good sense to click on the light switch , surprised the heck out of his 5 year old who proceeded to drop the glass of water and it broke all over the floor

target ID is critically important

yes that is why that department went #4 buck , they shot up some walls testing it they decided it was good enough for one wall but seemed to go throught fewer then 00

there is only the answer that is more right for you.

Definitely get a sling. If it comes time to use it, you'll not want to set it down on the ground if you need both hands for something.

Looks similar to mine, but mine has a longer barrel.

One of these days I’ll get that sumbeetch of a stray cat that eats from my compost pail by the door.

It appears we have similar tastes in how a door should be equipped!

Good choice, I need to get something similar

Not trying to be a richard here but I must say I'm glad we don't have to live in fear like that.

You Gentlemen are well meaning but a little tardy, to class. There has been a shotgun by the door, here, since the house was built in 1960.



Charlie

Fear? There is a loaded shotgun by every door as well as other places throughout the house. I ain't scared of chit!

Must be pretty dangerous in the U.S. running to a neighbours for help in the middle of the night if your house catches on fire.

NOT
I don't want the chance on getting it hung on something when/if I need to swing fast to shoot a crack head.

My neighbors have cell phones to call the fire department. Maybe that is a US thing. Are you not allowed to have cellular devices in Canada?

I don't want guns by doors.
10-20 ft away, to be picked up on the way to the door.

Those aren't door guns. Those are the end table guns, bathroom guns, night stand guns and refrigerator guns!

What was I thinking. Maybe helping neighbours in a crisis is a Canadian thing. Arming yourself to the teeth with insecure loaded firearms lying all over your house to prepare for some zombie apocalypse not so much. lol.

"Insecure loaded firearms"? Everyone in this house knows where they are at, what they are and exactly how to use them. My house, my rules. In your house you are welcome to make a phone call and wait for someone to arrive to help.

Crit r dun

How many people shot in Toronto? Would you want to live there with your registered nail file?

Lots. There's almost no chance of me even going there let alone living there. I'd like to say gangbangers killing each other over their drug debt is urban renewal unfortunately there are innocents in the backgrounds.

The fear comes in after you defend yourself, now if your a Antifa idiot your safer then a responsible landowner today.

even basmt joe has a 12 gauge.....

you Canadians are just Jealous

you have no right to self defense

you must flee

your severely prosecuted for defending yourself

we don't live in Toronto or Chicago either nor would we want to however that crapp spills over , and honestly drugs are everywhere , even in small town rural America 5 houses on main street and one blow up with a meth lab in side.

it's ok we understand you know your sitting ducks we feel bad for you too.

unfortunately the same disease that put you in that unfortunate situation is spreading here and it makes people uneasy.
that same disease makes the looters rioters , thieves Ect.. all the more bold.

we have a saying better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

how helpless would you feel if you could do nothing to save your wife and kids ?

there is a very real possibility that if you have to exchange fire you will also be struck and possibly die , but I feel better about taking out the trash on the way out the door than leaving it to keep hurting people.

Actually GreenCountryPete, we have a self defence law that would allow us to kill someone that was in our home with a weapon. Don’t just make stuff up it sounds silly.
Yes we have gun laws.
Yes, I could shoot someone in my home in self defence.

Just saying.

I seem to recall Ontario prosecuting a young man for not fleeing a few years ago and for having access to his fathers gun , and it not being stored locked with ammo locked sperate.

I think that the charges were eventually dropped or lessened

maybe not all provinces are the same

I went and checked

I stand corrected

Canadians have a right to self defense

Self-defence against unprovoked assault
34. (1) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force they use is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself.
Extent of justification
(2) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted and who causes death or grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault is justified if

(a) they cause it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes; and
(b) they believes, on reasonable grounds, that he cannot otherwise preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm.


I was recalling a case that made the news a while back where when a young man defended himself in his parents home he was prosicuted for it , although I do believe he was eventually acquitted for it

Not dangerous at all... My neighbors don't barge in. They knock on the door... I look to see who it is and let them in.

One of my neighbors has 7 foster kids (5 of them teenage girls) and a husband who is a truck driver. She knows she can knock or call for aid anytime day or night... And she has had to because the state in its wisdom won't let foster parents keep guns in the home.

Mike

We have a decent balance. I'm not sure what's going on in your society that requires your citizens to lock yourselves in your homes with all entrances guarded with loaded firearms as though your expecting some violent attack at any moment but no, we're definitely not jealous of that. In any event, Antigov was looking for some practical suggestions and now we've thrown his post off topic. Let's discontinue or move it to another post. Should have just kept my thoughts to myself.

If they were reasonably priced a 410 lever would be work

Ahh, there's the source of misunderstanding. You see, Crit-R-Dun, we don't have a "requirement" to self-arm at all; we merely have the LIBERTY to do so. That's a concept you're clearly less familiar with, as you see the world through the lense of what you're "required" and "allowed" to do.

Perhaps the people in Toronto were saying the same thing 70 years ago, no?
Do you accuse people of "living in fear" if they keep a conibear rope in their pocket, or an emergency kit in their sno-go? We call these things "just in case." The only reason you see firearms differently is because you've been taught to.

we are not really locking our selves in with a gun behind every door but things did get very ugly in many parts of the US this summer.

Yes , back to useful info

I am in the Yes to a Light and yes to a sling camp

a mounted light is great for shooting in the dark if you have ever tried holding the flashlight and gun at the same time and take aim I think you will understand.

a Sling because your more likely to have it with you if it doesn't have to occupy your hands also easy to hang on a nail in the barn ect..

going to get a lot uglier IMO

but they are not reasonably priced

I don't want to be shot by a 410 either but the rounds leave a lot to be desired the same lever gun in 44mag or 45lc would make a much better gun

the ammo for 410 is near double or more the price of 12 or 20ga in the US and stocked in fewer places.

the guns are also much more expensive

there is a reason the 12 and 20ga pump guns dominate utility guns in the US , price point , simplicity , availability and functionality play a huge part of that.

when we are not in all this craziness of pandemic and riot and shortages you could walk into nearly any store and buy a Maverick 88 for 229 or a Mossberg 500 for 330.
used Mossberg 500s and Rem 870s were all over the place for 200-250 used.

a 15 pack of slugs was 12 dollars
a 25 round box of #4 was 9 dollars
a 15 pack of buck shot was 13 dollars

Ludicrous. There's absolutely nothing in law that prevents me from loading up a 100 firearms and setting them by every door and window in my house so long as I'm home to be responsible for them. Although I could expect a visit from local law enforcement or a family intervention to assess my mental wellness if I did.

As far as what you're allowed or required to do, the bar may be set at different levels on different issues depending on what part of North America you live in but don't lecture me on liberties in a free and civilized society.

Good choice. My door guns are rifles becuse a lot of times ths coon or opossum outside is just a little to far for a sure shot with the pistol on my belt. That and they are much easier on the ears with the suppressors.

I due have a mossberg mariner I picked up for the added corrosion resistance to keep in the sto and go in the wifes mimi van. Also nice to have when your out and decide to see if you can kick up a rabbit out of a small patch of brush. For when the wifes handgun may not be the best choice. Warming though the receiver is aluminum and battery acid off the jumper cables will put the receiver pretty deep. Backing soda will neutralize it but the pitting is permanent.

That's what the people of Nova Scotia thought until last summer. It won't happen here.

No, maybe they could fit that for an RPG.

Hey Crit-R-Dun, why can't folks just do whatever they please without other folks like you getting their panties all wadded up about it?

Who cares if a guy wants to keep a loaded shotgun by his door? I don't, why do you?

keep a 12 ga by the door. a smith and Wesson k frame in the fridge. a 1911 beside the toilet paper. an AR by the bed. and another gun by the recliner and you'll always be safe!

I don't care, I'm just raising relevant discussion about a topic. Here's a better idea numbnut: Let's just have anyone do or say whatever they want and no one ever discuss it or comment on it. That way we can eliminate all communication and internet social media including this forum!

You just got your panties in a wad for a discussion that you weren't even a part of so apparently you do care. Instead of lurking around waiting to pounce on posters with your condescending comments maybe add something of value from time to time.

BS, you were back-handedly finding a way to insult the USA. You do it all the time. It's not a secret. I'm sure Lugnut knows that too. That's why he responds to you the way he does. Carry on.

What a load of bullcrap. You start with your "what are you afraid of" comments and deride American gun culture. And when someone calls you on your BS you deny it. Get a clue pal.

Nice !!!

Seems the canucks are always to willing
to spout off on topics like these? You north of the border guys sure seem jealous in the topics you spout on, always our laws and rights. Your not the only one, many of you canucks do it.

It's not fear , we are still a allowed to own guns here

It's always better to have it when you need it than to WISH you had when it's to late

Also , it not actually going to sit at the front door . But will have it if I need it

It'll go with me when traveling , good family protection , but hopefully will never have to use it .

You never know if one of these blm'ers might try to pull you out of your vechile at a stop light somewhere

It's made in Turkey for chiappa firearms . Merak model 301 .

It's not nearly nice enough for the two lawyers on here

But for $ 229 who cares ...... it may never get used , and I could Chuck it in the river if I had to


Thanx for all the info BTW , I think a light for sure and maybe a sling for gp

Good point on the #4 vs 00

Front door gun , back door gun , side door gun , any door/window gun........

Mossberg 590 military w/ ghost rings , bayonet mount , folding stock. 50ct belt (50ct belt 00 buckshot for slight back-up.......

Nice ! Very nice !

it looks like you have a section of rail on the forearm that can be a good cost savings , a 1 inch weaver type scope ring on a 1 inch body flash light makes mounting it there a lot less expensive than if you have to buy some sort of bracket.

the light brackets add a bunch of cost to do something that should be simple

my go-to "bump in the night" gun wears a SureFireG2X it has on and off and no other options my goal being to keep it simple