Posted By: 41cal
President of cci on ammo production
Posted By: Wesley
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:33 PM
He sure came off as a prick in my opinion. They need a better PR person to do such messages...
Posted By: Getting There
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:43 PM
If all you get from people is and moaning day in and day out that you are not working hard enough you would get a little testy to.
The best thing you can do is "don't buy his product" JMO
The best thing you can do is "don't buy his product" JMO
Posted By: Blaine County
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:44 PM
Yeah, he did come off as a prick but people on the internet can get crazy with their stupid theories.
I just need him to focus on manufacturing CCI small rifle primers. The other products can wait.
I just need him to focus on manufacturing CCI small rifle primers. The other products can wait.
Posted By: JohnnyY
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:51 PM
I don’t think he said anything wrong. The FB bs is started more drama than anything else in history. Nice to see a company stand up and say look damit. Just my .02
Posted By: waggler
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:51 PM
I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:53 PM
He can get Tired of it all. As he makes Millions
Get as upset as you want mr President but If you cannot hold it in Grin and bear it , Then for Real Hire A front man for a message to the buying Public.
Good grief way to turn off customers
Get as upset as you want mr President but If you cannot hold it in Grin and bear it , Then for Real Hire A front man for a message to the buying Public.
Good grief way to turn off customers
Posted By: Blaine County
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by waggler
I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
I always keep around 35K. 50K seemed excessive.
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 02:58 PM
Dang it, now I have to find another brand.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:01 PM
Those customers Pay His Presidential Salary!!!
This is a free market. Your 35k is excessive to many others
I sure don't Think so but you calling someone names for Their line in the sand as far as numbers is ridiculous.
This is a free market. Your 35k is excessive to many others
I sure don't Think so but you calling someone names for Their line in the sand as far as numbers is ridiculous.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:05 PM
Poor upset Jason's salary
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Poor upset Jason's salary
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
But he’s tired.
Posted By: gutthooked
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:13 PM
Doesn't seem like many people are working in the background in the video.
Other ammo companies put out videos like this.
Other ammo companies put out videos like this.
Posted By: Getting There
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:17 PM
I think his employees are also getting tired of it. I plowed snow for 28 years every winter and all I ever hear was way do I push snow in there drive. Not that we worked 12 to 14 hour day some time 7 days a week. Oh yes I could quit. JMO
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:22 PM
Zero Hispanics, Zero Asians, 2 African Americans and the rest Caucasian. Thousands of jobs, they need to reshoot that video.
Posted By: NebrCatMan
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:22 PM
WOW..... I thought the video was spot on. This man deals with crybabies saying negative comments all the time about his companies and he was getting tired of it so he made a video of actions of his company to try to show the naysayers what is really happening. And then I look at the comments on here......... really sad......try starting your own dang company if you know so dang much. Just my opinion which I am entitled to.
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by NebrCatMan
WOW..... I thought the video was spot on. This man deals with crybabies saying negative comments all the time about his companies and he was getting tired of it so he made a video of actions of his company to try to show the naysayers what is really happening. And then I look at the comments on here......... really sad......try starting your own dang company if you know so dang much. Just my opinion which I am entitled to.
Just saying there was a lot of empty space in that warehouse. There is barely room for a new delivery in the fab shop here. lol
Posted By: FairbanksLS
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Poor upset Jason's salary
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
It's a free market. Lol
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 03:36 PM
I’m betting some of the hostility comes from the evidence that a lot of corporations these days are coddling to “special groups”, (notice I didn’t say “equal justice league”) while seemingly unconcerned about those that use their products most. Perhaps it’s because they know, like the politicians, these folks will just keep pulling the sled. lol
Posted By: TurkeyWrangler
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:00 PM
After a couple of the comments I was expecting him to be a jerk but to me it really didn't come off that way. Maybe if he was a hot blond some people would receive it better.
The information is very different from what I had heard. One local radio personality said that the ammo companies made a years worth of one caliber at a time and then they were done with that caliber for the year and it had all been bought up so there wouldn't be anymore for a good while. I guess that may be true about other manufactures but it's nice to see they are currently making hunting rounds.
The information is very different from what I had heard. One local radio personality said that the ammo companies made a years worth of one caliber at a time and then they were done with that caliber for the year and it had all been bought up so there wouldn't be anymore for a good while. I guess that may be true about other manufactures but it's nice to see they are currently making hunting rounds.
Posted By: danny clifton
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:07 PM
Who knows what the truth is? This guy may have been telling truth.
I agree with law dog. Should have stocked up a little. The writing was on the wall
I agree with law dog. Should have stocked up a little. The writing was on the wall
Posted By: NWS,LLC
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:08 PM
Nothing wrong with that video. A lot of greedy folks around here buying up certain ammo as soon as it hits the shelves. Overheard one braggart the other day talking about how he and several family members “got it all” from another local gun shop. So this guy circumvented store policy to “get it all” for himself. From what he was saying, he has owned guns and been shooting all his life. It personally makes no difference to me however the scenario just described is a big reason why there is very limited ammo available for some calibers, etc. Also, I’ve been told a lot of ammo is going to military contracts. And as the Federal man said in the video, there are a lot of new gun owners stocking up with ammo who likely had no base amount. A lot of less popular ammo is readily available around here. Look for private sales and pay near double than “normal” or reload your own if you are out of ammo.
Posted By: danny clifton
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:11 PM
Primers are very scarce
Posted By: ZUTER
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:13 PM
He made a lot of sense to me. Certainly he started off a bit frustrated at first.
I helped a buddy with some shooting skills. New to guns this year. Bought an AR, a 9mm pistol, and a 380 for the wife. He has bought several boxes of ammo for practice.
Welcome the new gun owners.
Harder to take rights away from the majority.
I helped a buddy with some shooting skills. New to guns this year. Bought an AR, a 9mm pistol, and a 380 for the wife. He has bought several boxes of ammo for practice.
Welcome the new gun owners.
Harder to take rights away from the majority.
Posted By: NWS,LLC
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:26 PM
Primers can be found now around here in limited quantities. I’ve been told not as many primers available because ammo companies focusing on making ammo. I’ve also been told that certain ammo is only made in a short period of time each year. Buckshot has not been available retail for months around here. Demand has exceeded supply.
Posted By: Bigfoot
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:29 PM
WITH 7.000,000, new shooters I would have liked to see the new factories under construction . That's the part that baffles me . You would think as long as they have been behind over the last fifteen years they would be adding manufacturing capability as fast as they can . Maybe they are .
I respect his abrasive nature . I see it as being plain spoken . Leaders that spend all their time apologizing are normaly ineffective at best . There is probably a more touchy feely video staring a hired PR spokesman out there .
I respect his abrasive nature . I see it as being plain spoken . Leaders that spend all their time apologizing are normaly ineffective at best . There is probably a more touchy feely video staring a hired PR spokesman out there .
Posted By: keets
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:30 PM
how about your opinions on VSTO as an investment
Posted By: Blaine County
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Those customers Pay His Presidential Salary!!!
This is a free market. Your 35k is excessive to many others
I sure don't Think so but you calling someone names for Their line in the sand as far as numbers is ridiculous.
This is a free market. Your 35k is excessive to many others
I sure don't Think so but you calling someone names for Their line in the sand as far as numbers is ridiculous.
I think you misunderstood. I was kidding about the 50K.
I would buy a brick with every Midway order. Covid hit so I never got to 50K. I would have but for the shortage.
Proud stockpiler here.
Posted By: Tailhunter
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Wesley
He sure came off as a prick in my opinion. They need a better PR person to do such messages...
Could be he’s just tired.
Posted By: Tailhunter
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:47 PM
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
He can get Tired of it all. As he makes Millions
Get as upset as you want mr President but If you cannot hold it in Grin and bear it , Then for Real Hire A front man for a message to the buying Public.
Good grief way to turn off customers
Get as upset as you want mr President but If you cannot hold it in Grin and bear it , Then for Real Hire A front man for a message to the buying Public.
Good grief way to turn off customers
Some of you guys are so thin skinned. Nobody will ever stop buying ammo because of a CEO.
Posted By: Tailhunter
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by NebrCatMan
WOW..... I thought the video was spot on. This man deals with crybabies saying negative comments all the time about his companies and he was getting tired of it so he made a video of actions of his company to try to show the naysayers what is really happening. And then I look at the comments on here......... really sad......try starting your own dang company if you know so dang much. Just my opinion which I am entitled to.
This ^^^^^
Posted By: ~ADC~
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by NebrCatMan
WOW..... I thought the video was spot on. This man deals with crybabies saying negative comments all the time about his companies and he was getting tired of it so he made a video of actions of his company to try to show the naysayers what is really happening. And then I look at the comments on here......... really sad......try starting your own dang company if you know so dang much. Just my opinion which I am entitled to.
I agree as well.
Posted By: swift4me
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 05:34 PM
Bowhunter..... you just saved me a lot of typing. Running a company like that is no cake walk.
And I see more and more that hunters can sound like James about almost any detail.
Pete
And I see more and more that hunters can sound like James about almost any detail.
Pete
Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 05:48 PM
Did all seven million new shooters buy their guns on the same day?
“We failed to recognize the trend in a timely manner and forecast appropriately. We are doing all we can.”
End of video.
“We failed to recognize the trend in a timely manner and forecast appropriately. We are doing all we can.”
End of video.
Posted By: Dirt
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
And some of these morons are the same ones who go out blasting dirt with 5.56 or 9mm in this day and time knowing there is an ammo shortage. Then they complain about not being able to get ammo after they were stupid enough to go out and waste it by shooting demons in the dirt. I understand it is fun, but there is this thing in a person's head called a brain. Many times it is not engaged.
I swear you can't make this stuff up!
I swear you can't make this stuff up!
I don't care for this shooting of dirt much myself.
Sincerely, dirt
Posted By: tlguy
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:00 PM
Bowhunter, did you not stick up on slaughter dates at the slaughter house? If not, that is your fault and nobody else's. Shouldve stocked up a season ahead. Be an ant.
Posted By: bankrunner
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
And some of these morons are the same ones who go out blasting dirt with 5.56 or 9mm in this day and time knowing there is an ammo shortage. Then they complain about not being able to get ammo after they were stupid enough to go out and waste it by shooting demons in the dirt. I understand it is fun, but there is this thing in a person's head called a brain. Many times it is not engaged.
I swear you can't make this stuff up!
I swear you can't make this stuff up!
x 2. I don't understand just shooting stuff up for fun.
Posted By: TrappedOut
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:02 PM
I live by a gun range...i wonder how many millions of rounds of ammunition get wasted every day in this country to poke holes in a piece a paper....
Posted By: gutthooked
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:04 PM
Seen on another board that CCI is 2.5 years behind on their orders. They need to set up more machines and expand, itll just keep getting worse now.
Posted By: Getting There
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by NebrCatMan
WOW..... I thought the video was spot on. This man deals with crybabies saying negative comments all the time about his companies and he was getting tired of it so he made a video of actions of his company to try to show the naysayers what is really happening. And then I look at the comments on here......... really sad......try starting your own dang company if you know so dang much. Just my opinion which I am entitled to.
X2
Posted By: wy.wolfer
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
The man is the CEO of a major ammunition manufacturing company. He has to deal with anti 2A people enough. And from what I see on here, some of you are really stupid and childish.
1. He is a CEO. I am sure he did not get that way straight off the street. I give a rat's butt what he makes. If the company can afford to pay him that, so be it. If any of you on here would take this job and say, nah, I think 50K will be just fine for my salary, you are an idiot.
2. The man deals with hate mail from anti 2A whackos and then has to deal with cry babies from his own ranks telling him to make more ammo and quit hoarding it in secret warehouses? Again, stupid.
3. Then some morons think he wants to throttle back production. So if he does that wouldn't that mean he wouldn't have hired 100s more employees? Wouldn't that mean he would be making less ammo therefore less money? Good grief at the stupidity.
4. Still others think he isn't making enough ammo in the correct fashion. It's CCI for goodness sake. They have been making ammo for how long? If you can run the company better, then fight for his job and show us how it is done. Otherwise, shut up and buy ammo as it comes available.
5. On the flip side, other people think they should tell him to make ammo faster. Not even gonna comment on that stupidity.
6. Then others think he should just build another production facility. Well, those don't get built in 2 days. Land, architecture, supplies, specialized manufacturing equipment, finding more QUALITY employees. And all the should happen in POOF, two minutes. Embarrassing.
If you don't like how he said what he said, toughen up butter cup. He said things like a man would say things. Not a politician and not a "PR specialist". I admire him and this only makes me more loyal to CCI.
We are living in unprecedented times with people making decisions previously unneeded. Here is a list of things on short supply. Please contact the CEOs of these companies also and accuse them of the same stupidity you accuse CCI of doing.
toilet paper
paper towels
canning lids
canning jars
seeds
slaughter dates at slaughter houses
and perhaps the shortest thing on supply is:
QUALITY EMPLOYEES
So many more things to add. Feel free to add on to this list as mine is very personal to my needs and shortages or lack thereof.
If you did not stock up on things before all this came, that is your fault and no one else's. Learn to stock up one season ahead. When everyone else is buying seeds, buy canning supplies. When everyone else is buying canning supplies, buy seeds. It ain't rocket science. Most people are like a grasshopper. Be like an ant. You will find the shelves fully stocked when you go to purchase items in this order.
1. He is a CEO. I am sure he did not get that way straight off the street. I give a rat's butt what he makes. If the company can afford to pay him that, so be it. If any of you on here would take this job and say, nah, I think 50K will be just fine for my salary, you are an idiot.
2. The man deals with hate mail from anti 2A whackos and then has to deal with cry babies from his own ranks telling him to make more ammo and quit hoarding it in secret warehouses? Again, stupid.
3. Then some morons think he wants to throttle back production. So if he does that wouldn't that mean he wouldn't have hired 100s more employees? Wouldn't that mean he would be making less ammo therefore less money? Good grief at the stupidity.
4. Still others think he isn't making enough ammo in the correct fashion. It's CCI for goodness sake. They have been making ammo for how long? If you can run the company better, then fight for his job and show us how it is done. Otherwise, shut up and buy ammo as it comes available.
5. On the flip side, other people think they should tell him to make ammo faster. Not even gonna comment on that stupidity.
6. Then others think he should just build another production facility. Well, those don't get built in 2 days. Land, architecture, supplies, specialized manufacturing equipment, finding more QUALITY employees. And all the should happen in POOF, two minutes. Embarrassing.
If you don't like how he said what he said, toughen up butter cup. He said things like a man would say things. Not a politician and not a "PR specialist". I admire him and this only makes me more loyal to CCI.
We are living in unprecedented times with people making decisions previously unneeded. Here is a list of things on short supply. Please contact the CEOs of these companies also and accuse them of the same stupidity you accuse CCI of doing.
toilet paper
paper towels
canning lids
canning jars
seeds
slaughter dates at slaughter houses
and perhaps the shortest thing on supply is:
QUALITY EMPLOYEES
So many more things to add. Feel free to add on to this list as mine is very personal to my needs and shortages or lack thereof.
If you did not stock up on things before all this came, that is your fault and no one else's. Learn to stock up one season ahead. When everyone else is buying seeds, buy canning supplies. When everyone else is buying canning supplies, buy seeds. It ain't rocket science. Most people are like a grasshopper. Be like an ant. You will find the shelves fully stocked when you go to purchase items in this order.
I'm surprised that they get as much manufactured as they do. Lawsuits are impacting everyone that makes or sells ammo and guns. Remington made more ammo than this before they were sued out of business for manufacturing a legal product that criminals used illegally. Progressives are sueing anyone they disagree with.
Posted By: Jiggamitch
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:15 PM
I didn't see anything wrong with that video. He came across just fine to me.
Posted By: gcs
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:21 PM
Didn't seem prickish to me, and while I'm sure he's frustrated too, it didn't come across that he's pulling his hair out....oh, wait, he did....LOL
Give the guy a break.....
Give the guy a break.....
Posted By: Getting There
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by gutthooked
Seen on another board that CCI is 2.5 years behind on their orders. They need to set up more machines and expand, itll just keep getting worse now.
Would you expand your ammo business not knowing what Biden is going to do? It cost lots of money to do so.
Posted By: jbyrd63
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by waggler
I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
X2
Posted By: jbyrd63
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:41 PM
Yes Heck about everything is behind. Car makers are 6 months out on any new vehicle "unless", you settle for what they get in
Posted By: Flipper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 06:58 PM
So open a factory. The problem are those that keep buying more when they have several thousand rounds.
Posted By: HayDay
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:12 PM
Is all that ammo coming out of one building? If so, they ought to expand......so not all eggs in one basket. They are one teensy little fire away from being a big hole in the ground.
I'd also be curious to see a diagram of their distribution network. When trucks leave the docks, where does it go? Not questioning, just curious. Straight to Midway? Straight to Bass Pro? Or through several layers of wholesalers? In other words, how many times is it handled / bought / sold before I get to touch it?
And like the virus vaccine.....who decides priority?
I'd also be curious to see a diagram of their distribution network. When trucks leave the docks, where does it go? Not questioning, just curious. Straight to Midway? Straight to Bass Pro? Or through several layers of wholesalers? In other words, how many times is it handled / bought / sold before I get to touch it?
And like the virus vaccine.....who decides priority?
Posted By: We-Sa
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:12 PM
I appreciated his message, maybe it did sound a little abrasive but he wasn't talking about rainbows and unicorns. Sometimes you have to actually say what you mean very plainly for people to understand.
"Unprecedented times" is one of those terms, buzz words, that really doesn't mean much. I think the time between late October 1929 and mid 1945 were pretty "unprecedented", but then again so were the 1960's, 1995 and 2001,
"Unprecedented times" is one of those terms, buzz words, that really doesn't mean much. I think the time between late October 1929 and mid 1945 were pretty "unprecedented", but then again so were the 1960's, 1995 and 2001,
Posted By: seiowatrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:17 PM
His frustration may be valid, but his delivery was very poor. He could have alternatively addressed the inaccuracies and not come across as upset with a segment of his customers.
Posted By: hippie
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:17 PM
No wonder there's an ammo shortage, with someone who thinks the shortage started 9 months ago as president. There's been a shortage for almost 30 years here. It started in the '90s with primers hard to find. 
Posted By: seiowatrapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:18 PM
His frustration may be valid, but his delivery was very poor. He could have alternatively addressed the inaccuracies and not come across as upset with a segment of his customers.
Posted By: TrappedOut
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:22 PM
I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...
Posted By: hippie
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by TrappedOut
I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...
When pallet shops needed trucking here, we bought trucks.
There's something holding those companies back or they'd have competition or have been expanding for the last couple decades instead of declaring bankruptcy.
Posted By: Getting There
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by TrappedOut
I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...
X2
Posted By: 30/06
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:35 PM
I appreciated his honest message, glad it wasn't spit polished by PR types. He's clearly not a politician.
Posted By: run
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
[quote=waggler]I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
I agree.
Posted By: Rat Masterson
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 08:19 PM
A couple of years ago ammo was easy to get and cheap, that's when I stocked up. If you waited till now to buy you missed the boat.
Posted By: fishnhunts
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 08:22 PM
Yeah, this guy has no right to stand up for his company against vicious, untrue attacks. Sounds familiar to some arguments made against another person here and everywhere else pretty regularly. I'm sure these attacks really help him motivate his employees as well. Especially if he didn't stand up against said attacks, laying down and taking it is a real moral booster.
Posted By: Steven 49er
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 08:45 PM
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Poor upset Jason's salary
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
That's it?
Originally Posted by run
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
[quote=waggler]I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
I agree.
I haven't shot my 22 in years, but I have 10,000 rounds. Big deal, that cost me about $400. Next thing you know someone will say owning more than 10 guns is too much or we shouldn't be able to own 10 plus round magazines.
This time last year ammo was cheap and plentiful, those who are over 30 and didn't learn from the gulf war years should have acted like the ant. This shortage sucks, I didn't have a need for small rifle primers until this fall and have been looking for a certain lower for 3 months. No ones fault but my own.
Posted By: Steven 49er
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:04 PM
BTW when I'm able to find a supply of small rifle primers for a reasonable price I'll never run short again.
Posted By: Blaine County
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:14 PM
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
BTW when I'm able to find a supply of small rifle primers for a reasonable price I'll never run short again.
Same. I'm good now but I'll buy a lifetime supply.
Posted By: wy.wolfer
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by TrappedOut
I think some guys on here should go get a loan and start their own massive ammo company and show these companies how to do it right...
When pallet shops needed trucking here, we bought trucks.
There's something holding those companies back or they'd have competition or have been expanding for the last couple decades instead of declaring bankruptcy.
Again, just for clarity "LAWSUITS", by people that want your business to fail and just go away forever.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
BTW when I'm able to find a supply of small rifle primers for a reasonable price I'll never run short again.
Same. I'm good now but I'll buy a lifetime supply.
And half the crowd here will call you Names for doing so.
Buy what you want
Stock up...You're not A jerk or hoarder if you do.
Posted By: Flipper
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:35 PM
The same ammunition hoarders were talking about the toilet paper hoarders. Both help fuel the shortage
Posted By: wy.wolfer
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Poor upset Jason's salary
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
the President - Ammunition of Vista Outdoor Inc, the total compensation of Jason Vanderbrink at Vista Outdoor Inc is $1,234,350.
And the AVERAGE NBA PLAYERS salary is $7,700,000.00 more than six times as much, and that's the average NBA player. So this guy who is President of four large Corporations makes to much money? I think he has a great deal of responsibility.
Posted By: Providence Farm
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by run
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
[quote=waggler]I don't blame him.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
How about the "pricks" who think they need 50,000 rounds of 22 ammo.
I agree.
I would say the reall problem is the guy that only has a box or 2 on hand then freaks out when he can't get more then buys everything he can when he sees it.
I haven't bought much ammo or components in 7 years or more. I stocked up. I also made the mistake of getting complacent and didn't restock as I used it. The result is I'm lower than I like on some things. But according to some I'm the problem becuse I have enough ammo to hunt with for 6 years and then some with most calibers, many many more years than that with others.
I also have gotten into pre charged high pressure pellet guns to reduce the need to get into my rimfire ammo. These pellet guns can handle all my 50 yard and less plinking and practice for the family as well as small to mid size game hunting. I can catch my pellets and re cast them and shoot them again. It requires no bullets, brass, primers or powder just the up front investment in tanks and high pressure compressors. There are big bore pellet guns that can take down buffalo. They can also be used in places where firearms are restricted like industrial plants for ADC and urban hunting.
I would buy a couple of pallets of components(I actual have the funds a available for once)Monday if prices were fare and it was available. But I'm also in good shape for a few years and can wait.
My 1st question is am I the problem becuse I have a stock pile of a certain caliber you think is to large because I restock it as I go.
My 2nd question is what are you doing to help with the problem. I won't even need to fire a single .22 or round this trapping season. I spent several thousand dollars on pellet guns, compressors, and molds. I will always find a way to keep hunting and shooting.
Buy it cheap and stack it deep. Ammo Its a better investment than the stock market. It always goes up in price, you can always use it to feed and defend your family, and it will always work as currency when it hits the fan. Don't get complacent and always be open to alternatives.
Posted By: gutthooked
Re: President of cci on ammo production - 12/19/20 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Getting There
Originally Posted by gutthooked
Seen on another board that CCI is 2.5 years behind on their orders. They need to set up more machines and expand, itll just keep getting worse now.
Would you expand your ammo business not knowing what Biden is going to do? It cost lots of money to do so.
I would go big or go home. If he's shutting them down it wont matter either way.