MB650 ??

I’ve been seeing a lot of these for sale lately and it’s got me baffled since I’ve always considered them a top coyote trap. Why would anyone get rid of them??? Obviously it’s a matter of personal opinion of what you like but I’d like to hear everyone’s take on the MB650 for coyote. Let’s here the good and the bad....

Good solid trap with solid good pan tension setting made in USA. Only con for me is its tough to fit my fingers under the jaw to pull the pan down to the nightlatched position. But its not really a big deal. I have the cast jaw ones with offset jaws

I own them because I missed a very large cat in the National Forest bobcat trapping and a 550 wasn't big enough. The foot was bigger than any bobcat track I can explain. I don't like them and missed multiple coyotes with them. I'd rather use a duke 650. Not a fan of the mb 650. Absolutely love the 450 and 550 however. Best traps ever made but the Duke looks better than the stupid mb 650.

I Like Mine

Great coyote trap not so much on fox. I would guess low fur prices are why they are being sold off.

Different tools for different jobs. The pan adjustment on them can be a bugger sometimes but then for the price, one can expect to do a little tweaking on them. I'm with Knappet on setting the pan but have figured it out for now. But then like Trapdoc, find there are times I need something little bigger than my 550's. I would like to try out the new trap MB is coming out with. If I like it then maybe I'll be selling my 650's!

Tad small for beaver and illegal to use on land here or I'd own a pile of them.

Love my MB 650's, trigger problems I feel are over-rated. Once you set them enough you get a feel for it.

That’s all I plant anymore up here. They work great. Maybe hold too well on incidental wolves.
Check that. I do plant Jake’s as well.

Osky

I've been using 650's for a number of years . Have never used any Jake's . Do you think the Jake's are more or less aggressive than the 650's when it comes to foot/leg damage on incidentals like fox in coyote sets . Thanks

Just get the cast jaws (650s) I let fox go every year in them without any visual damage.

Once I started using the 650Cs I sold about all my other coyote traps. I thought I had good coyote traps but soon realized they were subpar compared to the 650s.

Many people around here used 650s for wolf when we had a season ~6 years ago.

The cast 650’s are what I use too Calvin. Gotta love Dave for coming up with those one handed setters.

Osky

They hold them just fine. Then again so do a lot of 4 coiled traps. I saw a beauty being held in a #2 four coil that had been set for coyotes.

Osky

Do you feel the cast 650's are a better trap then the Jake's ?

Love the trap for power, just too hard on my hands to set 30 or 40 a day. Not to mention, dangerous. I hated not being able to get my fingers under the jaws to set them.

I didn’t like them. They are well made, very strong, they definitely catch and hold coyotes, but I just never liked setting them. I haven’t found a dogless trap that a do like yet.

Step on em. No, they sure aren't rat traps.

I work the pan/trigger from the top while my feet are holding the jaws down.

The Jake is hard to beat. IMHO

Aren't they a 1/3 the price?

Can you tell us more about this new trap MB is coming out with please?

sold mine,,very undependable tension trigger system on the early models I bought.

I’d agree. The holding face of the Jake is just plain good. The cast 650 won’t leave you wondering what snapped it either.
This may seem goofy but it just seems the Jake closes faster. Could be my imagination or something visual. As said speed difference or not what gets nailed by the Jake would be equally caught by the 650.
I do not know on the price difference, but I’d “settle” for the 650 c any day if it came down to that.
A one handed setters is your friend.

Osky

Another thought to consider. I am not nor ever have been a long liner. If I were to be running hard and planting/resetting lot of traps each day I would consider a smaller trap. Digging that large a bed over and over for either the 650 or Jake particularly in frozen ground and also burying the shock springs on the Jake would burn too much effort and time.
The physical size room needed in the vehicle, the extra bedding dry fill or moss needed, pre trapping prep etc. to a longliner every second counts. I would look at a smaller trap. Many 4coil options.
I could be wrong wrong.

Osky

Agreed . The 3's have there place . But I can put in 2's and be on my way much quicker

My mentor used 2’s exclusively and did extremely well. As said I’ve seen them hold wolves. Fast and easy to work with. Doesn’t hurt as bad is theft is an issue.
For many traps are like rifles, flavor of the month club.

Osky

Wish I knew what this New Trap was coming out possibly