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Is trapping a sport?

Posted By: beaverpeeler

Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 10:48 PM

Just curious what you consider this activity.

I recently read the results of a large national survey about the public's attitude towards trapping.

People were asked if they had positive or negative views of different sub-categories of trapping. Subsistence and ADC trapping had the highest marks (over 60% favorable), coming in second to lowest was commercial trapping, and lowest of all, sport trapping with under 30% favorable.
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:09 PM

I've posted these surveys before. Usually a thread killer here in hobby land. smile
Posted By: Boco

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:12 PM

I guess if you kill fur for fun and throw it away its a sport.
As soon as you sell what you catch for a monetary income,it is commercial.
Posted By: forestman3

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:13 PM

Is hunting or fishing a sport?I don`t think so but that`s just me.
Posted By: HobbieTrapper

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:14 PM

Not a sport. Dabbling in it may appear “sport-ish” but it hones the craft, like going to the range. Trapping is a job and it’s one that can be done as an individual.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:14 PM

It is now!
Posted By: Tailhunter

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:15 PM

It’s a way of life.
Posted By: charles

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:19 PM

It was always an outdoor sport to me. I sold what I trapped. Same with deer hunting. I don’t have to hunt to feed my family, yet we eat 5-6 deer every year and we look forward to having it in the freezer.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:27 PM

I think it is a art! There are so many facets in being a good trapper. There are many ways you can set a trap for the same type of animal. You do not make a set for a cat the same way you would a raccoon. It become a passion to some. JMO
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
I guess if you kill fur for fun and throw it away its a sport.
As soon as you sell what you catch for a monetary income,it is commercial.


We have this gubmint organization called the Internal Revenue Service. In thier opinion if you sell stuff and don't make a profit it is called a hobby. It is not monetary income, if you lose money.

P.S. The general public disaproves of hobby (for recreation) trapping.
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tailhunter
It’s a way of life.

X2
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:46 PM

Its a part of me.... More than a Lifestyle, part of who I am
Posted By: k snow

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/07/21 11:51 PM

No way I'd call it a sport for me. Then again, hunting and fishing aren't sports for me either.
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 12:05 AM

In some, it’s the instinctive human challenge of reinforcing self intellectual superiority over their environment. It is “the thrill of the hunt” and not necessarily the final termination of the quarry. What say ye old married men? HA!
Posted By: Jurassic Park

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 12:58 AM

I definitely would not call trapping a sport. I also don’t think fishing or hunting is a sport either.
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:01 AM

Hard no.
Posted By: uglyduck

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:24 AM

[sports] grown men running around the cow pasture chasing a rubber ball. no thanks give me trapping /hunting /fishing.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Its a part of me.... More than a Lifestyle, part of who I am


Well said.
Posted By: old_newbie

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:29 AM

Trapping is trapping, not a sport, not a hobby(even if you're a short liner), it is something only understood if you trap. JMO
Posted By: ol' dad

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:32 AM

In general, no. Could it be, yes. However, I'm not in a competition within any other trapper.

ol'dad
Posted By: trap master

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:33 AM

No, neither is hunting. they're not sports because they are not competitions. sports do not involve life and death. I absolutely despise when people within the "outdoor "community call it "sport hunting"
Posted By: Rat Masterson

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:44 AM

No
Posted By: newtoga

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:48 AM

It’s a job. Period. If you look at it any other way it’s a hobby.
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:50 AM

It’s a part time job in wildlife management.
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by trap master
No, neither is hunting. they're not sports because they are not competitions. sports do not involve life and death. I absolutely despise when people within the "outdoor "community call it "sport hunting"


In a sense, trapping is a "competition" between you and the quarry. . . . and yes, many "sports" involve life and death. . . . but I understand what you're trying to say :-)
Posted By: bctomcat

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 01:57 AM

IMO trapping is a commercial activity, be it profitable or not, and should always be referred to as such. A "SPORT" is a desirable but unnecessary activity, whereas trapping is necessary for the following reasons:

1) It’s an activity providing seasonal income, food and clothing for many people.

2) It’s a necessary wildlife management activity to:
- control the spread of dangerous diseases carried by many furbearers.
- protect agricultural livestock and crops from animal damage.
- control beaver flooding of road systems and developed lands.

3) It’s a necessary activity for the capture and relocation of endangered species
Posted By: Flipper 56

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by old_newbie
Trapping is trapping, not a sport, not a hobby(even if you're a short liner), it is something only understood if you trap. JMO

I like this answer
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by bctomcat
IMO trapping is a commercial activity, be it profitable or not, and should always be referred to as such. A "SPORT" is a desirable but unnecessary activity, whereas trapping is necessary for the following reasons:

1) It’s an activity providing seasonal income, food and clothing for many people.

2) It’s a necessary wildlife management activity to:
- control the spread of dangerous diseases carried by many furbearers.
- protect agricultural livestock and crops from animal damage.
- control beaver flooding of road systems and developed lands.

3) It’s a necessary activity for the capture and relocation of endangered species


By your definitions, hunting is a commercial activity then:
Posted By: Posco

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:13 AM

A lot of people live in the concrete jungle and they're constantly bombarded with stories about how the planet ain't likely to make it. It comes as no surprise when they think hunting and trapping are pushing us closer to the brink.
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Posco
A lot of people live in the concrete jungle and they're constantly bombarded with stories about how the planet ain't likely to make it. It comes as no surprise when they think hunting and trapping are pushing us closer to the brink.


You would absolutely be amazed how many GW's came out of the "concrete jungle" got hired, never fished, hunted, trapped, or had any wildlife experience and don't have a clue!!!
Posted By: H2ORat

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:34 AM

Not a sport for me. My only contribution to society --- getting rid of invasives and nuisance animals. You could call it a hobby (only one that I have that is self sustaining) , but that doesn't really fit either. It is definiltelty not a sport (football) . I like to think of it as my duty -- good management -- my responsibility on the ground that I come in contact with. A balance between farming practices and good ecosystem practices, and a balance between eco terrorism and reality.
Posted By: Posco

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by SJA
Originally Posted by Posco
A lot of people live in the concrete jungle and they're constantly bombarded with stories about how the planet ain't likely to make it. It comes as no surprise when they think hunting and trapping are pushing us closer to the brink.


You would absolutely be amazed how many GW's came out of the "concrete jungle" got hired, never fished, hunted, trapped, or had any wildlife experience and don't have a clue!!!

Game wardens?
Posted By: cat daddy

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:38 AM

Trapping is an activity. Period. Never was a sport!
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:39 AM

Not a sport....it can be a recreational activity....just like hunting.

It can also be a commercial activity if you sell your catch...just like a commercial fisherman.

Trapping is also vital to wildlife management, ie damage control.
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:39 AM

Yes, Game Wardens!
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:41 AM

I agree with many of you. I've always considered myself a farmer and a trapper. Both time honored occupations.
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:44 AM

Sport No!

Job, management tool, recreational activity, hobby, any and all of those yes.
Posted By: AZ2020

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:47 AM

Let’s spin the optics maybe as researchers and historical advocate. And the few $$ allows for the next years research. If y’all actually counted the billable hours it takes to gain the data that is passed on the fed and state game departments I’m sure it would be in the millions.

So maybe it’s part wildlife research conservationist and part historical advocate.

At least that’s how I tell it to who asks.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:48 AM

Not a sport, a heritage. My great grandfather trapped through the depression in the hills of Kentucky to survive. His father before him trapped, as did his son.
They knew even then it was beneficial to the wildlife.
Posted By: FairbanksLS

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Boco
I guess if you kill fur for fun and throw it away its a sport.
As soon as you sell what you catch for a monetary income,it is commercial.


We have this gubmint organization called the Internal Revenue Service. In thier opinion if you sell stuff and don't make a profit it is called a hobby. It is not monetary income, if you lose money.

P.S. The general public disaproves of hobby (for recreation) trapping.


I believe the last sentence is true. No need to feed the anti's
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by trap master
No, neither is hunting. they're not sports because they are not competitions. sports do not involve life and death. I absolutely despise when people within the "outdoor "community call it "sport hunting"


Who do you figure sportsmen organizations represent? Off to Sportsmen's Warehouse to find a football tommorow. smile

I used to love to watch The American Sportsmen with Curt Gowdy. Luckily it was not a sport.
Posted By: bucksnbears

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:18 AM

Nope, same as hunting.
Aint a sport.
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by trap master
No, neither is hunting. they're not sports because they are not competitions. sports do not involve life and death. I absolutely despise when people within the "outdoor "community call it "sport hunting"


Who do you figure sportsmen organizations represent? Off to Sportsmen's Warehouse to find a football tommorow. smile

I used to love to watch The American Sportsmen with Curt Gowdy. Luckily it was not a sport.


Hey Dirt, let me know if they have any croquet sets on sale while you're there please :-))))))))
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:31 AM

Are those behind the bullets or the arrows? smile
Posted By: SJA

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:33 AM

Next to the volley balls, and the hockey pucks ;-)
Posted By: H2ORat

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by SJA
Originally Posted by Posco
A lot of people live in the concrete jungle and they're constantly bombarded with stories about how the planet ain't likely to make it. It comes as no surprise when they think hunting and trapping are pushing us closer to the brink.


You would absolutely be amazed how many GW's came out of the "concrete jungle" got hired, never fished, hunted, trapped, or had any wildlife experience and don't have a clue!!!

Trust me I wouldn't be surprised --- I call them educated idiots.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:30 AM

As trappers we should pick up quickly on the fact that ADC work or animal control is a very favorable aspect of trapping. We can use the natural resource science and biology staff persons to help and assist in enlarging that message. After all take a state like WI where we open coon ( and I use coon as they are common and also interact negatively a lot with the public) that season about 3-4 weeks before the most of the animals have very limited value in the current market. So in reality if I trap coon in WI early I am doing ADC work for the tax payers of WI at no tax payer cost with limited to no return on my time and resources. We have not been doing a good job of promoting that aspect. We typically as trappers argue about the price of fur and or gas and why we don' t harvest and the number of unskilled and un trained and unlicensed citizens who harvest these animals and in many cases in very inhumane ways.

Bryce
Posted By: Bigbrownie

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:42 AM

I cant make money fishing, folks don’t make money golfing....I love to trap, so why do need to make a profit.

I’m trapping beaver now...no possible way can I recover my expenses. Who cares...it’s what I like to do.
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Its a part of me.... More than a Lifestyle, part of who I am


Well said. That’s me in a nutshell
Posted By: PAlltheway

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 09:23 AM

Trapping is a conservation tool for me. I do not sell, but keep my pelts for our own use, including making clothing and displays. Everywhere I trap, ground nesting birds are doing great. Grouse, turkeys, whippoorwills, other songbirds have space to raise a brood or two without each clutch being eaten by a raccoon, possum, skunk, fox etc. All the little nest raiding predators are overpopulating because human residential development is creating perfect habitat for predators to grow, without fear of being hunted or trapped. The safety zones are too big and the critters fear nothing but being hit by a car on the road. These artificially high populations pulse out into the undeveloped areas and upset any semblance of natural balance. Birds that under normal conditions might lose an egg or a clutch but then go back to successful nesting are now driven off of every nest they make. Trapping is the only way to save these birds. And so absolutely no legal animal caught in one of my traps is left alive.
Posted By: Trapper Dahlgren

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 10:07 AM

no , it's a job , wild life renewable resource, manger , smile
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 12:58 PM

Beaver feeds a lot here, and I buy less dogfood
Posted By: Antelope Montana

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:21 PM

You can live without a sport but you can't live without meat fish and something to keep you warm in.
You can write a book that says the art of fishing the art of hunting probably even the art of trapping.
That word art along with the word sport don't reflect the real reason people do any of the three activities I mentioned.
But when you dumb down the title and call it sport or art it's easy to Rally people behind the movements to stop these activities. To me fishing hunting and trapping are a way of life in some degree in my everyday life. You try to take them away and you are taking my lifestyle away which is a little different than taking a sport away from me or some art away from me. Watching TV is a non-essential activity in fact I don't even own a TV but try taking away somebody's TV without them wanting to give it up.
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Antelope Montana
You can live without a sport but you can't live without meat fish and something to keep you warm in.
You can write a book that says the art of fishing the art of hunting probably even the art of trapping.
That word art along with the word sport don't reflect the real reason people do any of the three activities I mentioned.
But when you dumb down the title and call it sport or art it's easy to Rally people behind the movements to stop these activities. To me fishing hunting and trapping are a way of life in some degree in my everyday life. You try to take them away and you are taking my lifestyle away which is a little different than taking a sport away from me or some art away from me. Watching TV is a non-essential activity in fact I don't even own a TV but try taking away somebody's TV without them wanting to give it up.

Agreed I like your style .....awesome
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 02:59 PM

If you have a small farm and need liability insurance you will likely see the word hobby farm pop up. I'm doubtful they consider the percent of your income taken in but more likely the size of the land holdings. But I could be wrong.
Posted By: waggler

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:15 PM

A sport refers to competition, wnners and losers, etc.. The only sport I can see related to hunting, fishing and trapping is competitive bass fishing, which I think is about as interesting as watching paint dry, and I suppose now with the whitetail craze and these idiotic canned hunts and stuff like that there has become a sporting issue related to some types of hunting, if you can really call it hunting.
So, no, trapping is not a sport.
Posted By: teepee2

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:22 PM

I would classify it as a "Sacred Heritage."
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Just curious what you consider this activity.

I recently read the results of a large national survey about the public's attitude towards trapping.

People were asked if they had positive or negative views of different sub-categories of trapping. Subsistence and ADC trapping had the highest marks (over 60% favorable), coming in second to lowest was commercial trapping, and lowest of all, sport trapping with under 30% favorable.

I think when the term "sport trapping" is used it sounds to the uninformed public that we kill animals just for the fun of it. Not using the fur,bones,and meat or managing the land against disease from overpopulation. Or the flooding of farm land by beavers etc.. The term to some has a negative connotation putting us in a bad light. To some of us it's a way of life, to others a job and some a hobby with benefits.
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:52 PM

If none of those activities is a sport, why do people keep score? I caught so many of these. Is this a record? The antlers scored this many points. My fish is a new record. Seems awful competitive for people?
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt
If none of those activities is a sport, why do people keep score? I caught so many of these. Is this a record? The antlers scored this many points. My fish is a new record. Seems awful competitive for people?


Some people.Its heritage,way of life and a right to me
Posted By: k snow

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt
If none of those activities is a sport, why do people keep score? I caught so many of these. Is this a record? The antlers scored this many points. My fish is a new record. Seems awful competitive for people?



That's why I don't care for record books at all. I don't care how many inches a deer is.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Law Dog
It is now!


x2- you would have to be one (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) of a hand to make a living at it with these prices
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:07 PM

True sport fishing and hunting go back to the lords of England and sport trapping is a new thing that happened in America somewhere after world war II. There really is a short history of sport trappers. Low prices make more everyday though. smile
Posted By: k snow

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt
True sport fishing and hunting go back to the lords of England and sport trapping is a new thing that happened in America somewhere after world war II. There really is a short history of sport trappers. Low prices make more everyday though. smile


What's your definition of sport?
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:13 PM

A physical activity done for recreation.
Posted By: PAlltheway

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by bblwi
As trappers we should pick up quickly on the fact that ADC work or animal control is a very favorable aspect of trapping. We can use the natural resource science and biology staff persons to help and assist in enlarging that message. After all take a state like WI where we open coon ( and I use coon as they are common and also interact negatively a lot with the public) that season about 3-4 weeks before the most of the animals have very limited value in the current market. So in reality if I trap coon in WI early I am doing ADC work for the tax payers of WI at no tax payer cost with limited to no return on my time and resources. We have not been doing a good job of promoting that aspect. We typically as trappers argue about the price of fur and or gas and why we don' t harvest and the number of unskilled and un trained and unlicensed citizens who harvest these animals and in many cases in very inhumane ways.

Bryce

This is an excellent point. Trappers save the public money and aggravation in so many ways
Posted By: ol' dad

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt
If none of those activities is a sport, why do people keep score? I caught so many of these. Is this a record? The antlers scored this many points. My fish is a new record. Seems awful competitive for people?



I could be wrong but wasn't Boone and Crockett and Pope and Young originally organized as a means for wildlife management?

Ol'dad
Posted By: ol' dad

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt
A physical activity done for recreation.

Prostitution?

Ol daf
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Is trapping a sport? - 01/08/21 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by ol' dad
Originally Posted by Dirt
A physical activity done for recreation.

Prostitution?

Ol daf


No those girls are making a profit. smile
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