Dang homeless camps!

A submerged tarp from an upstream homeless camp caused me a lot of grief today. As I pulled away from the bank after making a set the engine suddenly quit and I found that the end of an underwater tarp caught up on something had wrapped around my prop. Every time I tried to lean over the transom to get it off I took on water. Eventually I called 911 for a water rescue....but as fate would have it the current that kept wagging me like a dog's tail eventually gave it some slack and it unwrapped on its own. Then I had to call back the sheriff's marine rescue team and let them know I didn't need them after all.

This is what I discovered about 300 yards upstream when I untangled.

Dang.

Am I seeing things or is ;part of that a TeePee???

Was anybody home?

Compassion Carl, compassion.

Ran to Ca this weekend to drop off a couple horses and pick up a meat cutting saw and its amazing what they let happen over there. Sad to be honest from the second you hit the valley its nothing but trash everywhere until you 10 miles out of a town then starts again 10 miles before the next it starts again. You'd be surprised how far out some of the camps are and the garbage looks just like the pic in the memez thread

We have a New Democrat Mayor in one of NH larger cities........and all of a sudden there is a homeless boom....even out of staters are moving in......they get Porta Potties...and 24/7 police baby sitting at the larger bridge i cross on my way to work.... and the trash is unbelievable

One of the reservoirs that I trap on (private) had a camp on it -- I asked the owner of the land if it was occupied, he told me that it was in the spring and summer. I still kept my distance and didn't see any signs of activity. Just another hazard of N. W. trapping I guess. At least it wasn't snakes, gators ,and meth heads like in the south. Oh wait we have plenty of meth heads too --- At least it wasn't gators and snakes

Sad to see for sure!

It looks like the current is pretty fast and heavy there in the photo. I would imagine you were a little nervous there for awhile wondering how it was going to play out!

That would be Rough

That's disgusting. Im glad dirty hobos love your area.

I used to run my beagles on the scrub land by State Route 35 and the railroad tracks, when I lived in Dayton. There was lots of rabbits and other game. The City acquired the land, built a bike path and made the area a park. The homeless people moved in and built several camps, one that was huge, hidden in the woods and brush. The City went in and bulldozed out every tree and bush for miles and kept the grass cut short to give the homeless no where to hide.

Many of the homeless people huffed paint and could barely talk. They had gold paint around their lips from sniffing paint out of a bag.

While the homeless camps were close, most of my neighbors and I lost our downspouts, that were most likely sold for scrap. All the aluminum cans were taken from the recycling bins. My neighbor, who left his truck unlocked, had sound systems stolen 3 times. I sicced my dogs on someone coming in my front window and someone else who dismantled part of my privacy fence. Those homeless guys can run!

Keith

At different times I have tried to employ homeless folks. Most only want handouts and won't work, and the few that did take me up on a day job never lasted the day.

I think I could actually admire homeless people (living life on their own terms etc, etc) if they didn't trash up everything. I have zero tolerance for that kind of thing.

The joys of socialism. Glad you got out of that mess

All of the homeless I have arrested or thrown off of properties were mentally ill, drugged or both.

Keith

Interesting that I remember the hippies and communes and how time and need forced them to grow up and face reality. Now the government does all it can to keep these people as they are. At our expense of course.

Osky

Around here they panhandle at the exit from Walmart and Lowes. Sitting there in the grass beside their dog, with a cardboard sign, smoking cigs, all right across from help wanted signs. They don't get a penny from me.

Agreed, a symptom of mental illness. All homeless people living on the streets or in camps in Canada are doing so by choice.

The part I don't understand is, if it is purely mental illness and or drug/alcohol related, why is there a huge national problem in the last decade or so and prior to that hardly any? Not saying that wasn't homelessness before but I would say around here it is at least tenfold over what it was 20 years ago.

Scary situation! That water doesn't look too user friendly. Glad you're OK.

Societies more relaxed attitude towards drugs has created more opportunity for addiction. Instead of arresting offenders we are providing them with free needles or ask them to go into rehab a dozen times at our expense. Pushers are fined or not even prosecuted. Rather than enforcing vagrancy statutes we close off sidewalks so tents can be erected and provide outhouses. Free meals at mostly taxpayer funded facilities are the norm in big cities. When Jimmy Carter released the mentally ill to fend for themselves on the street this is the result. It may sound heartless and impractical to return to the old ways but it should be obvious that this social experiment is a resounding failure.

Carl, not all homeless are mentally ill or on drugs and alcohol, but all of them I have dealt with are.

When I was an undergrad, I worked for a security company over Christmas break, that had me hunting down the homeless people who would sneak into Chem Ed Center in Cincinnati, the parking garage and the underground tunnels that connected it to the Central Trust Building. It was like a strange LARP D&D Game. The building was under construction and extremely porous. The homeless would sneak in to steal and to find a place to sleep and stay warm. It's an immense building, 32 stories tall, 553,659 square feet above ground, with an immense parking garage, with several levels more underground including tunnels that connect to many other buildings, the sewers and electrical line tunnels. I could not walk it all in an 8 hour shift. The elevator only went part way up at the time and the upper levels were still open, with no windows. There were no lights in most of the tunnels. I had to use a flashlight. Some of the tunnels were lined with limestone and were probably built in the 1800s. The homeless would build nests under stairs, in the tunnels and in weird little rooms off of the tunnels, out of any sort of soft, warm material they could find. Some of the rag piles were nearly 2 feet deep. Some of the homeless would stay buried in until I pulled them out. I would find between 3 and 20 homeless people a shift, sometimes the same ones a few times a night. As long as they were cooperative, I would let them keep their belongings, minus any tools or building supplies they had taken and just escort them out.

After I graduated, a friend and I started a security company. We had an account with some upscale, loft style apartments in Dayton, where we had huge problems with the homeless, stealing and harrasing the tenants.

Keith

But they can vote.

Around every election time, the democrats in Dayton would give out free food, clothing and other goods to the homeless for registering to vote and then give them more stuff to get on buses to be taken to the polls on election day. I drove by on election day one time and there was a big mob of homeless people being directed, by a couple of well dressed women, to board the buses, while several homeless men urinated on the door and wall, in full view.

Keith

Admittedly, my memory is foggy....But...i believe that was Reagan

jimmy carter's Mental Health Services Act let the mentally ill out of the asylums. Then President Ronald Reagan did not allow the funding to go through to treat the mentally ill that jimmy released.

Keith

Wait just a minute, it wasn't me.

It is sad, at least here we don’t have a lot of them I think some of this is because of our colder weather and lower population of Iowa.