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Beaver Float Question

Posted By: Bryce Hartzog

Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 03:16 PM

Do any of you find it necessary to put a piece of wood on the underside to deter the beaver from diving under the trap?
Posted By: Bryce Hartzog

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 03:39 PM

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Posted By: 080808

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 03:40 PM

No. Like many of us beaver look for the easiest route in life!
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Bryce Hartzog
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I used to have a problem with some beaver taking the bait from the side without going through the trap. The side boards should help prevent that. Nice idea!
Posted By: lorne

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 05:10 PM

Never had a need. for a bottom piece...make sure what ever trap you use that the jaws clear the float when it fires..
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bryce Hartzog
Do any of you find it necessary to put a piece of wood on the underside to deter the beaver from diving under the trap?

Not an issue
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 05:56 PM

I never needed sides. My design with 3 wood layers and foam makes it ride high enough.

Also Anchor it away from vegetation or trees so they can't climb over
Posted By: Golf ball

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 06:02 PM

330 could you post a pic of your design ? I will be honest I built one several years ago and never had any luck with it , may have just been the spring they didn’t travel up my creek .
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 06:05 PM

I'll have to look for my pictures...they're in the Archives
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I never needed sides. My design with 3 wood layers and foam makes it ride high enough.

Also Anchor it away from vegetation or trees so they can't climb over


same here

another scenario is to shove it into bulrushes so nothing can go around
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 06:47 PM

..and I like my platform a lil longer so when I want to make a castor mound on it, it is more visible

don't forget the hole for shoving skint sticks as food attractants
Posted By: HILLTOP TRAPPER

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 06:52 PM

i put wire mesh on mine,pretty sure i saw that on here last year when i built mine,maybe dont need it but didnt hurt.and what traprjohn said
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 07:12 PM

I cannot find my pictures
3 layers 2x4
Pink or green closed cell foam between. Front has a triangle mud mound shelf with a 3/4" hole for a peeled branch

I'll look again
Posted By: Bryce Hartzog

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 07:14 PM

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Larger platform and holes drilled.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 07:32 PM

I d use another layer of foam then wood

Test float it with a 330
Posted By: Calvin

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 08:00 PM

the uprights on the sides are a good idea. Too often I'm building up the sides with available debris.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I never needed sides. My design with 3 wood layers and foam makes it ride high enough.

Also Anchor it away from vegetation or trees so they can't climb over


same here

another scenario is to shove it into bulrushes so nothing can go around

That's a great idea.
Posted By: Drakej

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 08:28 PM

The low hooped folding garden fence(green) makes a good side barrier when one is wanted. A liitle grass, etc can be throw over it if more camp wanted. I put a pair of smaller fence staples(half wya in, one over other) to slide fence ground legs into(like a stake truck). two sections fit my floats on each side(the narrow end is too close together to have beaver climb over).

I also have some floats that I have made a 1/2" clvc or pex hoop under the BG end and covered the under side with plastic rain gutter guard. I have a few moving waters that are always full of trash in spring and even if I check everyday they are plugged or sprung). With guard they work fine. Obviously beaver can't come up from underside with these but it makes them to cumbersome to do every float.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/21/21 08:58 PM

Mnman has pictures of hid shoved on cat tails
Posted By: minklessinpa

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:00 AM

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this is how i do mine.
Posted By: MnMan

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Mnman has pictures of hid shoved on cat tails



Nope that was not me but I do have a picture with some blocking sticks on the sides:

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It sits level with the trap in place. There happens to be a beaver in this one. You can see it floating on the left.

This is how it looks when set:

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Posted By: lorne

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by minklessinpa
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this is how i do mine.

Nice the pipe for lure or eye appeal or both
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:51 AM

Make sure and test float some of those need another layer of foam and 2x4
Posted By: Bob_Iowa

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:54 AM

This is when I wished Iowa didn’t have the 100 percent submersion law.
Posted By: minklessinpa

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by lorne
Originally Posted by minklessinpa
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this is how i do mine.

Nice the pipe for lure or eye appeal or both

both! plus lure in the pipe doesn't wash away as easy.
Posted By: minklessinpa

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 01:11 AM

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Posted By: Golf ball

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 01:16 AM

Do you guys make a planer board to keep them out in the current or do you just stake out in the creek ?
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Golf ball
Do you guys make a planer board to keep them out in the current or do you just stake out in the creek ?


No, I often cable to an overhanging Limb or a log that is out in the creek or river. But you must pull them before heavy rain.
Posted By: lorne

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by minklessinpa
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this is how i do mine.

Nice the pipe for lure or eye appeal or both
Posted By: Bryce Hartzog

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 03:36 AM

This property is a hay farmer’s field that the beaver have been flooding for years and it was nearly impossible to get a steel trap permit. I’ve been running snares only for the last 6 years since moving here. Thank you all for the advice.
Posted By: HILLTOP TRAPPER

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:58 AM

Mn man I used your setup on mine it’s a little more work but works
Posted By: lorne

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 06:51 AM

I used to use black pipe on mine to hold the lure..but never thought of white
Posted By: lorne

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 07:40 AM

If i can ever get it figured out how to upload a picture here..I will show you a folding float i make
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Bryce Hartzog
I’ve been running snares only for the last 6 years since moving here..


have you not invested in (or got free thru the book/dvd club) Newts Master Beaver Snaring dvd?
here:
http://snareone.com/videos.html


Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bryce Hartzog
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Larger platform and holes drilled.


your holes need to be large enough to hold thumb diameter skint sticks.
I say thumb size since larger skint sticks show up much better
A wood like maple or poplar works best for me.
Posted By: Trapper Dahlgren

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 11:46 AM

i always found out I did better with float pulled into brush or weeds ,
Posted By: 3togo

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:12 PM

That's a lot of work for a $6 beaver.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by 3togo
That's a lot of work for a $6 beaver.


They are $50 beaver in the ADC world.
Posted By: woodchuck

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by traprjohn
Originally Posted by Golf ball
Do you guys make a planer board to keep them out in the current or do you just stake out in the creek ?


No, I often cable to an overhanging Limb or a log that is out in the creek or river. But you must pull them before heavy rain.

Why? Just curious as this was one of the main reasons I made mine, water levels changing several inches from day to day.
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by woodchuck
Originally Posted by traprjohn


No, I often cable to an overhanging Limb or a log that is out in the creek or river. But you must pull them before heavy rain.

Why? Just curious as this was one of the main reasons I made mine, water levels changing several inches from day to day.


I should have said IF high rain prediction............when attached to a log in river/stream, since 1" of predicted rain is usually not a problem, unlike 3-4" rain that could float your log into the next county.

IF I'm anchored to overhanging limb, NO worries.
Posted By: Bryce Hartzog

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 02:37 PM

TraprJohn: I haven’t seen that one but might have to invest soon.
Posted By: lorne

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:07 PM

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Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:13 PM

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Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:29 PM

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Yardstick added

3 layers to float the 330 half in, half out of the water.

Excellent for ADC jobs.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:33 PM

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Yardstick added
Triangle shelf in front with hole for peeled branch or white pvc. And mud /lure

Front has 2 locations to cable off to. One cable to trap, one for anchoring float.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:42 PM

Can they be made effective in states that require the traps bigger than 220's be completely submerged? I may have to look through my scrap wood and see if I can make a few to hold 220's.... nothing to lose.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Can they be made effective in states that require the traps bigger than 220's be completely submerged? I may have to look through my scrap wood and see if I can make a few to hold 220's.... nothing to lose.

Its possible, a dive stick model grin
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 05:22 PM

Watching

Moosetrot
Posted By: WhiteTrash 88

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 06:03 PM

Here's one of the 6 l put together. Guy on you tube gets credit for it. Said he had problems with rats crawling up on it. So I modified it to slam some rats or mink at the same time. 330 is a little over half submerged with the addition of two 110's. Getting ready to put em to work next week to see if does the job or not. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Scott__aR

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 06:47 PM

Interesting concept ^^^^^^^
Posted By: woodchuck

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 07:00 PM

I screwed up one, front was too low. Glued a couple plastic bottle lids to the front bottom now and if it's too low then just screw the bottle on. Acts as another quick in the field fix to make the front float higher.
Posted By: Drakej

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 09:34 PM

ADC, I think you could make one work with sub 330 if you fence sides and back well to help direct them into trap. They naturally approach float from downstream in moving water(which is the way trap end faces). I would modify open end with as thin a cross bar as possible with a coni clip attached to hold trap just below surface. I have one float that barely holds my heavier 330's about 1" above surface and take as many beaver with it as those that ride higher(which is why I haven't added float to it). Try a couple and lets know. I find them a very useful set in LG culverts under major roads with lots of traffic(no body sees them tethered below road. Against outside wall of slowest current produce best.
Posted By: Kelly

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Can they be made effective in states that require the traps bigger than 220's be completely submerged? I may have to look through my scrap wood and see if I can make a few to hold 220's.... nothing to lose.


Jaime, 220's will work-I've used Duke 220's(They are a little wider than tall) in the same float that I use for 280/330's when I lived in WI where half submerged is legal. Push trigger wires as far as you can to one side and from the bottom or cross them in a T shape on the bottom so they are just under water. Since they don't have to be submerged you can change your float construction slightly so they ride higher in the water where trap is positioned. This is a 330 but the same float was used with 280's(actually preferred them because they weren't as heavy-rode higher in water/current) A 220 is lighter yet so will ride higher with the springs just above the surface effectively blocking that part.

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Eventually I changed my construction by eliminating the styrofoam from the middle and placed it between the 2x4's on the sides . Used 2" foam then so that block where the springs goes can be placed differently depending upon how high or low you wan t the trap to sit. Only need the top of jaws to be 3" or so above water. The other changed I made when using these floats in still water situations/no current is the placement of strips of plywood sticking up on the sides so beaver don't go over the sides to get the bait.
Posted By: Kelly

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 10:34 PM

My later versions were like 330 trapper posted above but with one piece of 2" foam on each side, plus I put some plywood on sides to stop them from going over-just high enough to match up with the height of that 2x4 in front of float.
Posted By: Kelly

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/22/21 11:11 PM

Once many years ago I caught a beaver in a muskrat set with a 110, albeit a young of the year so I know many can be caught in 220's if that is what you are limited to.

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Also a big trout in a 330.

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Posted By: Bryce Hartzog

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/23/21 12:34 AM

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Posted By: Quartermastersir

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/23/21 12:48 AM

I stapled a rope on the outside edge of the float from the front around the back and back to the front on the top 2x4. This creates a "holder" for the blocking I want to use. Sometimes it is sticks squeezed between the rope and the frame sometimes it is cattails or other misc stuff. I got tired of looking for stuff that fit the holes I drilled.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/23/21 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Kelly
My later versions were like 330 trapper posted above but with one piece of 2" foam on each side, plus I put some plywood on sides to stop them from going over-just high enough to match up with the height of that 2x4 in front of float.

cool
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/23/21 01:40 AM

I like the hole in the front ...sometimes for an ADC job I use a leafy 4-5' branch.

Beavers reslond fast, like a New tree just popped up overnight. Great for Private ponds.
Posted By: AJE

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/28/21 02:05 AM

Just curious if anyone ever tries a snare on a beaver float
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 01/28/21 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by AJE
Just curious if anyone ever tries a snare on a beaver float

Not I
Posted By: AJE

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/02/21 03:23 AM

Kinda what I figured. Setting up the drowner system for a snare would be an extra step.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/02/21 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by AJE
Kinda what I figured. Setting up the drowner system for a snare would be an extra step.

Not needed ...built for a kill trap
Posted By: AJE

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 03:03 AM

I'm kinda surprised there's no vendor that sells beaver floats
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 03:23 AM

Good stuff guys. I’m not a water guy but taking notes. Thanks
Posted By: snowy

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 04:00 AM

The ones I have made are very crude but work just fine.
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Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 04:34 AM

What, no barb wire Snowy???
Posted By: cheechako

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 01:00 PM

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I’d just be happy if mine were not flipped over every single time I check them...
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 01:12 PM

Cheechaco,

If you'd put your fun noodles between the side layers. [Linked Image]
It might float. Mine don't flip.
Posted By: snowy

Re: Beaver Float Question - 02/09/21 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
What, no barb wire Snowy???

LOL! I think I must of used some electric fence wirah. I have some styrofoam built into mine and I don't have a problem with them sinking or flipping either.
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