Upside down flag

Anyone going to fly their flag upside down for the next four yrs ?

Not trying to make this political , the question is



What is the correct flag etiquette in this situation ?

Lol ...I don't have one of those

No

Makes a purely political thread and then tries to say doesn’t want it to be political. Some of you never learn, do you. Find something to do to kill time other than trolling the internet.

Might put up a Canadian one.

It's a legitimate question , don't bother to comment if you can't answer the question ..... troll

Option 1


Option 2 report

thats the problem with the left, they dont have any answers.

Even though we are disappointed in the election results---the last thing I would do ,is fly our flag upside down.So many brave people have given up their lives for our flag.Keep it flying the way it was intended to be flown.
Tom

Ok, here's the legit answer, although I'm sure you already know.

Flying the American flag upside down is considered by many, including those who have served our country in uniform, to be disrespectful. The U.S. Defense Department says the flag should only be flown upside down “to convey a sign of distress or great danger.” Jan 13, 2021

I just took mine down all together. Put away to hopefully be flown again.

Flying the flag shows your support and pride in America--not anything to do with who is in political office.Taking your flag down ,is the last thing I would do.
Our flag represents so much.
Tom

There are a couple flying upside down in my area. I find myself nodding in agreement with the sentiment when I drive by even if I wouldn't fly mine that way.

When I see the flag of the United States of America I think of the ones who have fought and died for our freedoms and ill be dammed if I would ever fly old glory upside down

A lot of people around here.are flying Betsy Ross Flags and the Gaiden Flag.

It may be time to go over--The Pledge of Allegiance.
We are pledging allegiance to the flag,our country and God. So why would we want to disrespect OUR flag,Our country and Our God--by flying it upside down.
Tom

Some of y'all and those you identify with are fair weather Americans.

You face a little adversity and stop voting, disrespect the flag and condone other un-American behavior.

BTW, the fact that my Oregon flag avatar is upside down is because I gave up trying to get it right side up. No matter how I loaded it, it flipped over upside down. I finally figured if that's what that beaver wants to do who am I to stop it?

Is there Oregon flag etiquette?

Applicable now.

lol, I didn’t even notice.

I think most of the citizens of our great country disagree with that.

Most?

It seems many are flying that way .....even some Vietnam vet guys

So I don't think it signifies disrespect towards our veterans

Hard to show pride now. To many that live among us Americans want to trample our constitution, dont believe in God, not want to work hard, or vote for those that encourage all of that. We used to be strong, not so much anymore. Like I said. Before I disrespect the flag, I'll roll it up and put it away for now, not fly it upside down.

Reminds me of a funny story. Coming home from a fishing trip once and passing by the Coast Guard cutter at daybreak the guys were just putting up the flag on the stern. Upside down. Only took them a moment to realize their mistake and they corrected it. :-)

Flying the flag upside down has nothing to do with politics or pride in ones nation. The US flag code states that "the flag should never be flown with the union down, except in times of dire distress instances of extreme danger to life or property".

It's meant to be a sign of distress to earn others, not to signal your dissatisfaction with which way the current political winds are blowing.

US flag code

I'm thinking my flag would turn itself over if it could......a cry for help , with no one listening

You can fly it half staff signifying the death of our country. Or fly a confederate flag (lower of course) near the Ole Glory flag. That will tick off the liberals. A restaurant near me does. Never heard anything negative about it. Of course, where I live is very conservative.

So, Is the idea of setting the Constitution aside reason for national distress? If not, what could be enough cause? A long time ago I took an oath to defend against enemies both foreign and Domestic. What would be a defining point there? Oh, and civil discourse should be the order of the day here.

Flying your flag upside down is akin to taking a knee for the National Anthem... Just plain disrespectful

Yes

Around here I’ve been seeing a lot of Trump flags upside down. I believe that signifies distress but not sure.

Yes this a distress signal, It would also be like painting a bullseye on your back.

Well my Trump signs already do that.

If someone is so inclined to argue the merits of the 2nd with us.

Was thinking the exact same thing. Like get a hobby or something other than being a keyboard trapper.

Time to move on mentally to things that will improve your life. Be vigilant and be ready but do not be pre-occupied with this stuff, yes I realize that it is bad and may get a lot worse which is why I will put my physical and mental efforts into improving my position.

I'm picking up what you're putting down Marty

I've already turned off the commie news media to lower my blood pressure

Hilarious how many imbeciles feel that an upside down flag is disrespectful!! Buwahahaha!!!
Facts don't care about your feelings!

Fact is, it merely conveys that you are in deep distress, or you believe America is. That's it, that's all, you retards!
Totally healthy. Totally respectful.

Taught us that in the Army. Ought to be taught in every elementary school.

Problem solved current and disrespectful.

Exactly.
Further, our oath never expires.
I stand ready.

NO.

Agreed.

I fly a 13 star betsy ross, other than a Gadsden or Marine Corps flag, you won't catch a new one around me until there's one on my casket... Flying one upside down perfectly conveys the situation right now.

Fly a jolly roger and get after it.

Kind of like what you guys are doing here?

How about this. It shows we are in distress but we still don’t have to fly the flag upside down which in my opinion is disrespectful, as is kneeling for the anthem.

for the moment it's up side down,the future is one day at a time.

I dont [b][/b]think we should fly our GREAT FLAG upside down,I think we should fly them at half mast to show that We the People are not happy with the way things have been handled and might be handled in the next 4 years:border wall,pipe line,gun control 2nd Amendment just to point out a few things,please pray for our country and are new leader's,because they really need to see the light.....

I don’t think it is necessarily a strategic advantage to reveal who their enemy is.

I believe Law Dog has the right answer.

This ^^^^

The local guns stores cannot keep the Republic of Texas flags on the shelf any longer than they can keep ammo right now

Lefty,the 185th anniversary of the fall of the Alamo is coming up--flags should really be flying off the shelves.Wish I was younger so I could be around for the 200th anniversary.
Tom

The American Flag should never be defaced, defiled, allowed to touch the ground, or be flown after sunset (modern laws permit the Flag may be flown after sunset, if the Flag is illuminated). For you kids out there, ask a "nam" Vet what an upside down Flag means.

Hang around Tom and I will make sure we both git there!

Mine has been upside down since the sham election, yes I am a vet and know what it means, for you people that don't believe this country is in distress and our way of life is in severe danger, well you need to open your eyes,

Amen

Amen x 2

And they know that’s all you are going to do.

Fly it like it’s supposed to be and let them think they got away with it.

+1

That is what lefties do. Falsely project what WE think.

I believe that it would be best to lay low, keep your powder dry, so to speak.
There will be a time to take action. Every true American will know when that time is here.
No need to show any of the cards in your hand, or that you have any cards in your hand at all.
The most devastating of all adversaries are the those which you don't see coming.

what's with the go along to get along men on here,they must be blind.

Calls people imbecilles and uses the word retard. Nice, really nice!!

Very true those words were not nice. applicable yes. Nice no
But I'm guessing the words most applicable would get him banned

I fly my flag right side up. I still believe that the presidential election was stolen and all who participated in the thieving should be hung by the neck for all to see but in my opinion someone flying the flag upside down is not disrespectful in my eyes. Disrespectful to me is burning and stomping on our flag!

I would like to see every person that owns a flag and voted for Trump fly it half staff. I think that would get the attention of the country. What good would it do, probably nothing. But I still would like to see it .

Isnt flying a flag at half mast to honour the death of a patriot?

Frost scraping now

Not the correct symbolism for the half masted Old Glory.
https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/halfstaff.pdf

A good friend and a vet is flying his upside down. I know a few other vets and civilians doing the same thing.
This country and our way of life is in jeopardy for sure with Biden and Harris. Look how they treated the NG which I'm sure that violates the Geneva Convention. Remember Benghazi, how Biden Obama and Clinton refused to send help?

Buckle up its going to be an ugly 4 years. It's only been 3 days and it's already in a downward spiral.

Only a fair-weather patriot would fly the flag upside down. Our flag stands for more than any one president.


Jim

Yes, Donald Trump

Good grief!

That kind of went out the window when it was done for a crack addict just because she was black and could sing.

One of the most clueless responses I've read on here.

To each his own-fly it any way you like-but Do not burn it-stomp on it or disrespect it in any way!!!!!!!!!! Mine will stay the way it was intended to fly-for now.

Doesn't surprise me.

Actually you do burn it when you retire it. You do it respectfully.

I feel they already know who we are and a lot of us have done it to ourselves with these new smartphones etc. Big Brother is always listening.

Man do I agree with that statement!

I hope big brother is listening. Thinking they know what’s going on and actually knowing are two different things.

So I wasn't the only one who read that and just shook their head. Thank you. Happy trapping! ScottW

They are making a statement by having 25,000 troops surrounding the capital.

When their flag is down side up, they got the message but haven't yet.

This is happening now?

u lost .... it's about a way of life,, who are you calling fair weather patriot,,, you commie!!!!

If you want to fly it upside down, go ahead. At this point just flying the American flag period will probably let the other side know where you stand anyway.

However, I think that we are reaching the point that "subtle as serpents, innocent as doves" may be a better strategy.

Mike

Well, as far as I can tell, they did in fact "Get away with it" And I think they may very well "Get away with it" again in 2 and 4 years. The backbones of our founders have not passed the test of time.

And it just so happens to be the president you voted for. Not sure that vote make you a patriot at all.

Don’t count ‘em out yet. You ever see the movie Munich? A lot of players to make this all happen and some of them aren’t guarded 24/7.

I hate to be a pessimist, but I agree with you. We are now a one party country until it self destructs.

The 25,000 troops??

Yes.

And after the photo op of them for the inauguration, our finest men and women were thrown out of the capital building and had to bunk in an outdoor parking garage.

Why should they be treated any different than the politicians would treat the rest of us servants (if we would let them)?

Our American flag represents "Freedom". To fly it any way other than the way it was intended, is a disgrace!

The United States Flag code states- The flag should never be flown with the union down EXCEPT As a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger......Cornell School of Constitutional Law's Legal information institute, and the U.S. Military Flag Code. This would indicate acceptability in what would be considered dire circumstances, as I read this.

So when the flag is stomped on and burned it is simply someone expressing their feelings, but its wrongful to fly it upside down to express one's feelings. Got it.

This ^^^^ . . . and it would generally apply to such a magnitude as a wartime invasion of the U.S. or a Naval vessel in dire distress, not because an election is won or lost.

This is no longer about an election. We are tired of paying the bills created by others.

Take buttjudge for instance trying to come up with a way to get more money out of us. There is no representation anymore and if you say rebuplicans, I’m going to wish upon you a broken heater.

Then complain to the billing companies.

lol

I do, they are so impressed they send an auditor.

There ya go! . . . and if you pontificate well, they'll end up owing you money :-)

So really the difference here is weather or not you believe the country is in dire distress or extreme danger, your constitutional rights are under attack, the 1st amendment for some has already been taken away on most of the web, they are introducing bills to limit your 2nd rights, yeah, I would say we are at war, 11 million aliens just got legal status, hoards more are on the march to our boarder, Yeah, I would say this is an invasion, so yes I believe this meets the definition to fly the flag upside down, open your eyes before its to late,

Excellent points.

All true...but, no need to draw attention. Kinda like the interwebs.

So tell me, how has YOUR lives changed as of now from all your precognitions ?

And why do you think the flag was flown upside down during dire times? it was not just for the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) of it. It was a cry for help, a rallying call, Time to rally people,

Remind me, when the flag officially was flown upside down?

SJA, you have been boiled so slow you cant even feel the heat.

Still waiting for your answer.

Who is going to pay for the assistance part of that 11 million is going to require?

Job opportunities just got reduced for graduating Americans born here. An old fart like you probably doesn’t have to be concerned with that.

Do we know if those 11 million have been vaccinated? Criminal element?

If your asking has it been done over US, No, but we have never been invaded to the point we are now, where are leaders are part of the assault, so its time.

Sourdough and Hobbie, You and a few others on here are just a kids. Oh, and Hobbie, yeah I'm an old fart and I'm sure I've already out lived you. Ya don't grow old by being a fool. Cemeteries are filled with young people. Either of you ever serve in the militrary?

Wouldn’t let me. I guess I was a little over zealous when I spoke with them. Neither branch wanted to entertain me.

SJS Got out in 85

My personal opinion. We have been invaded by an evil Communist China by them introducing a deadly virus probably on purpose to change the course of this country and for them to become the #1 world power. The are achieving their goal.

I can just imagine how some of you would squeal if people had flown the flag upside down after the 2016 election.

Jim

Are you going to squeal when those you voted for try to take all our gun rights away.I doubt it.

James, What did you loose after the 2016 election? look what we are about to lose and have already lost, 11000 pipe line jobs on day three, This is like peeing in the wind with some of you, I'm done,

How is this any different than kneeling during the national anthem?

I think you are free to do either. You so called conservatives should however stop acting like BLM constant complainers and stop disrespecting our flag.

We can fix this. Everyone just needs to start using their brains again.

nailed it 2X!!

The country was not in distress then so there was no reason to do that.

it's not your flag ,whats to you,you did fly your flag up side down for the last 4years , past 4 years of your whining,crying ,complaining ,go to youtube [Rebel Son] [quit your b!tc#en] !!!! jamie!!!

I seen a cool flag out along the highway, but would get thrown off trapperman for posting it.

Can’t wait to hear this.

vet here too.........

If you can afford a flag, you ought to be able to fly it how you see fit!

No. He voted for it.

white lives matter battle flag.....

You did.

I'll go ahead and say it . . . I have to laugh at some of peoples’ blathering about Freedom of Speech, and Democracy, yet some of you disdainfully object to others’ opinions that are different from yours. You’re displaying the epitome of hypocrisy. I guess if some of you can predict the future, I’ll give it a try too! . . . Let me look into my crystal ball . . . I predict that because some of you keep spewing your dissension, rhetoric and John Brown like rants, you, like Trump don’t know when to shut up and “we” may all have to pay for it. Haven’t heard much from the “Axis of Evil” have you? . . . Why? . . . because they most likely understand that subversive tactics REQUIRES SILENCE not “beating the drums before you hunt the Tigers” as I mentioned before. Try to comprehend this. So as Jimi said “rave on rave on” . . . and don’t say a word or be surprised when you realize that you have brought it on yourselves or “us”. People that are in the most trouble usually have been busy making it . . . I’m done with this subject. Rave on, Rave on :-) . . . forgot,

Dude, that was deep.

We could always vote .........lol

he got my full attention snore ,snore zzzzzz.

Silence has proven to be detrimental

Times are a-changin ya old blind, quote-stealing fossil. We'll be here, surviving, you can
drink your mucinex, dulcotwat, and all that...but you're gonna die sooner than later,
and we'll fight. Before Bufu the snowback socialist canuckistan speaks up.....
You'll know cuck boy.

SJA something you said earlier stuck with me and made my blood boil, so gotta respond, you said you don't grow old being foolish and the grave yards are full of the young, well your right, most of those young are patriots that died fighting for you right to say what you want, and I will venture a guess that there are A LOT of graves filled by old men that died knowing they were cowards.

i think my son has that flag, my wife asked him to not fly that one out side !!!!!

Sourdough now that's a poke in the eye 2X

Cracks me up when some babe of the forum tries to tell me what and where to post.

Take your crying to Paul. He loves whiners.

Jim

James you have faced direct questions and more than a few snide femarks about your vote and its implications for the 2A...

Are you ever going to address how your candidate is going to imperil our 2A rights? Or are you going to sit there and ignore it while smugly patting yourself on the back and repeating to yourself that you did the right thing?

You made it a point to make a post and ask other members if they were going to be man enough to honor their wagers... How about you pony up and tell us how you plan to reconcile your vote with your "love of freedom."

How about you dig deep for that last scrap of honor and address the question.

This is a response concerning 2A rights... So hit the NOTIFY button if you want... But a man would sack up and answer.

Mike

Enquiring minds would like to know.

I have no love for Biden. I think he is a threat to our Second Amendment rights. We ought to be able to stand together as lovers of the outdoors to resist his efforts impose more gun control laws.

I've said as much before.

My vote is really my own business. I felt I was voting for the lesser of two evils on every issue except gun rights. I don't want to turn this into a political fight by going into broader issues.

Trump was no real friend of the Second Amendment. We lost rights under him, and gained nothing. But he wouldn't have done as much damage as Biden will attempt to do to gun rights.

I don't hit the "Notify" button. Paul posted a week or so back that he doesn't recall James every complaining about a post. He wasn't completely right, as I remember hitting "Notify" a few times when someone posted inappropriate photos of their pot gardens and banned photos of dispatch methods.

Jim

If you voted for Joe Biden, and your rights are impuned, you shut your mouth and take your treats.

We may, or may not, have a can of beans for you.

We will not stand together.

Are you on pot James?

"I fully admit that I sowed the whirlwind, but I feel we should stand together when the time comes to reap it."

But at least you answered when I asked. Kudos to you counselor.

Mike

I try to answer civil questions, but don't always have time.

Jim

We all make mistakes.

glad you voted for the lesser of two evils,what you want your bumpstock back?seen you on here for the last 10 years

[quote=James]I have no love for Biden. I think he is a threat to our Second Amendment rights. We ought to be able to stand together as lovers of the outdoors to resist his efforts impose more gun control laws. Well james good luck with stopping bidens gun control laws, were not standing together,the last words i want to hear is someone telling me [james has your 6]

Catch22- is that you?

THIS

Exactly, how about we start by showing some respect for the 25,000 Guard members that they drug out to DC for a political stunt. They went to a place they didn't want to be, put up with crap they shouldn't have to take, and did their job like the professionals they are.

If that's not an answer folks can accept (I didn't say like), I don't know what to think.

I think the case of the upside down flag is such.......I'm not an expert at flag code aside form the basics like not touching ground, being lit at night, etc. If someone is going to fly the flag upside down right now, it's definitely going to get my attention and make me think. Some of the things I would probably think might be.......Huh, that's wierd. Why? I think they're overreacting and not looking at the big picture. I think that's not what I would be doing, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have their reasons.

I think that's the main thing, everyone has their opinion to the deal and it's a free country so I'm not going to hold it against them without a heck of a discussion. We've had veterans chime in on here that it's fine with them yet I know other veterans close to myself who feel quite the opposite.....I haven't served so I don't have much of a leg to stand on in that discussion.

Long story short, I personally think it's not right and won't be doing it at this point and things would have to get a heck of a lot worse to even consider it an option. Happy trapping! ScottW

James, you are correct sir, your vote is your own business. Well until you publicly declare who you are going to support then I believe it's fair that we should defend our position.

On a typical election, I wouldn't have given you fifty cents for either candidate, as it is I respectfully disagree you are wrong in your assessment that you voted for the lesser of two evils. It's not only gun control and you got a small, small, small taste of the ridiculousness of the new left in your writing class.

Being as it may both parties are taking us down the rabbit hole with unrestricted spending, hopefully we still have the ability to protect our homes and communities when the ability of governments to produce cash out of thin air ends.

I agree ScottW, I liken flying the flags upside down to kneeling at football games.

If a man feels the need to protest put up a Gadsen flag and keep the MAGA flags flying high.

I do too. I guess we should start looting now.

We don't fix this by acting like them. We fix this by being the better option for average Americans.

I am fine with the other flags.

So you believe we are acting as bad as them that average Americans voted for.

Being better will do what for them exactly? lol

An old school say but has a new meaning today: United we stand departed we fall without our gun right we will have nothing at all!

Wow, no words I can say here describe you.

If everyone here thought as you and BlainCounty, there wouldn't be a trapperman because there would be no trapping.
It goes beyond who you voted for as I tried to explain to Blain not long ago, it's the campaigning both of you did for the last 5 years.

Why come onto this site, a site that every single person here owns a gun and not only advocate to replace our president with one who openly says says he wants to take them, but then say there were other reasons more important to you? To top that off, those other reasons are also opposite what most here live by.

I just don't get where you can justify the last 5 years( longer than that really) supporting the anti's to what I thought this site is about. Maybe I was sorely mistaken as to what morals trappers have.

For sure, watching lesser antangonizers get banned while seeing thread after thread get axed over the years because of your stances baffles me. The reason they got heated???
Its because most here live a different lifestyle and consider you an anti. Its that simple.

One thing I do understand is that I can leave and have my admittance fee refunded. Sometimes by force, lol. Been there, done that.

So, to keep this on guns, which I've tried hundreds of times when you'd derail a gun thread because Trump hurt your feelings, Trump did alot of pro gun things which I've pointed out to you on numerous occasions but you can't remember for some reason, and frankly, I don't think you have the mentality to acknowledge if pointed out again so I won't bother.

Soon, the campaigners to get rid of Trump and have this guy in now, will in fact have some laws and people to answer for and to.

You summed up the way most people on Tman feel about the handful of never Trumpers and democrat voters here.


Well done.

I don’t think it matters how many we get to our side anymore. There just going to rig it more and more. I don’t know the answer to fixing it. I know looting isn’t the answer. I do know when they start coming to our house and taking them it’s to late.

What’s to loot? According to the left and the MSM we already have everything because we were born with it.

X2

I hear that all the time and laugh. Myself like many on here and most Americans had nothing growing up. I didn’t realize we was poor till later on in life.

Since you brought me into this.....a few comments.

1. I voted Libertarian--a way more 2A vote than a Trump vote on his best 2A day (which were zero other than Judges and Justices, blah blah, blah--which any Republican would have done).
2. If Oklahoma was a choke state like PA or GA, I would have held my nose and voted for Trump. He was the better 2A option between him and Biden. We are however not a choke state and I therefore have the freedom of voting the way I wanted.
3. I actually trap unlike many of the most avid posters on this site, but now I will cause the end of trapping? Logical.
4. I have more than a few items Biden/Harris want to ban and write checks to pro gun organizations instead of moaning on T Man. I've voted Republican or Libertarian in every election since 1992--supporting the 2A.
5. Trump hurt my feelings? Nope. I am just an independent free thinker and am not interested in getting caught up in a illogical and destructive mob.

And, go ahead and tell me all of those pro gun things Trump did. Obama, shockingly, was a better 2A president than Trump. Sad.

Oh yes, and Trump cost us the Senate in Georgia--the best way we could have protected the 2A.

You been smoking that wildwood flower. lol

You’re probably thinking there is a chance in the midterm. LMBO!

Your comfort zone doesn't extend beyond Rino .....and you haven't hidden it well

We know what that means for trappers and gun owners ......

Blaine, I disagree, Obama was not a more 2a friendly president.

2 names come to mind Sotomayor and Kagan.

I think to many/most of us DC V. Heller was a no brainer yet the decision was 5-4 and even so it's not perfect in my eyes. Scalia left the door open.


Another thing that is going to be important going forward is the lefts desire to purge conservatism. Where will the SCOTUS be when it comes to government collecting data on those of us who want to preserve our rights to bear arms, keep our money and not fall into the woke culture?

As far as I'm concerned Trump should have pardoned Snowden. The left will use the ability of the NSA to eaves drop on all of our electronic communications at will.

There is if we start using our brains and work the system the way the Constitution provides.

What else do you propose? Your alternatives are to complain, make obtuse internet threats and probably write little songs about it? Productive.

Careful, I’m I democrat now and your feeble insult about song writing is showing a weakness. lol

I don’t think writing the deep state rino’s in Ohio is going to help get a fair election etc. there all apart of enriching there family and there selves in money.

No Obama fan here. It however got a lot easier for me to buy suppressors under Obama (Trump talked about banning them). Also, the dreaded bump stocks (which I never would have bought--gimmick) were OK'd under Obama and banned under Trump. And, the ATF went after 80% lowers and pistol braces while Trump was president.

Any Republican would have nominated and had confirmed equivalent Justices between 2016 and 2020. Trump did push through a lot of lower court Judges--credit where due. However, some of y'all put way too much faith in the judiciary--or did until it didn't legitimize the stolen election scam.

Shane Hazel, a libertarian was the reason the Dems took Georgia Blaine.

Now he can live with the consequences too.

Well. Let's hear it. Actual solutions.

Easy there woodchuck, you don’t want no lawyer looking down on you no further than he do.

Mr. Hazel wasn't in the Georgia runoffs. He didn't lose those races for the Republicans. Trump as his people did by convincing people not to vote.

I'm waiting for all of the 2A accomplishments of Trump.

I bleave you has established you is the fancy pants ‘round heya. You won’t be needing’ no help from a little song writin’ hick from the sticks.

No deal dick Tracy.

He created the runoff tho.

If you were an informed voter, you wouldn't need me to tell you Trumps accomplishments. Do your homework before making false statements.

I guess touting Trump's 2A accomplishments is not really that important to you--or you can't.

I'm American so I fly my flag the same as I always do. High and proud!

I’ll name the ones I feel helped. If you remember a few short years ago we was a vote away in the Supreme Court from losing our rights. Both cases were 5-4. I know the current court hadn’t ruled on any but there records on past cases show how they would vote and it will hopefully be in our favor unless the deep state blackmails them too.

LOL! First you say you have no words to describe me, then you go on for eight paragraphs.

You really don't value diversity, do you? In fact, you're afraid of it. Even diversity of opinion. You'd tolerate my presence only if I kept my mouth shut.

The boss is a better man than you. He sees the bigger picture. That's why you can't understand him.

He also knows I'm not an anti.

Jim

Since you evidently keep track of such things, Twolines, what's the majority opinion here about flying the flag upside down?

Jim

James, the majority what to see you flown UP SIDE DOWN

lol

He doesn't actually care. Wasting your time, Hippie.

LOL and X 2!

True

when the vote comes the congresspeople will be thinking about the time they spent hunkered down in the capitol with people roaming around freely and the capitol police doing nothing about it.....

Flying an American flag upside down is not a sign of disrespect, it is a distress call. Look it up.

You're not wrong. And then they will vote in favor of gun control because they don't want people showing up with weapons next time. Those "roaming" the capital tarnished the image of anyone not on the left. As far as the left is concerned, we are all dangerous and all wear bison hats. Great job.

This is a game of chess and we are losing badly because of dumb moves.

Excellent!

Here’s to them flying flags upside down because of us.

There's a certain level of respect that should be expected from both "sides" as you put it when it comes to discussing diverging viewpoints of any topic be it trap placement, flag etiquette, gun rights, economy, or otherwise. If one refuses to hear any opposing or even partially opposing views on a subject, they are very often doing a dis-service to their viewpoint and cause. If we don't listen, learn, and adapt to our surrounding environment (whether we like/agree with it or not) we are setting ourselves up for sure failure. Happy trapping! ScottW

We have learned, for the past 20 years. It’s their way or the Highway. Screw that!

We want a place that creates opportunities for hard working people to be prosperous. They are on board with that as long as the prosperous give a portion of their prosperity to those who refuse to take advantage or put in the effort. Otherwise they aren’t passing anything. We give and give and give and it’s ever enough.

No, the problem is the other side controls the news media and we get the other side rammed down or throats. This forum is a safe place where freedom of expression is still permissible and that seems to bother you.

So in your world Democrats/liberals just started seeing us this way due to the crap at the capital?

In my world I believe they have seen armed, patriotic citizens who believe in the Constitution as dangerous threats to their agenda for decades or longer. I believe this is why they have and continue to try to limit our access to firearms and other weapons for many, many years. This is also why they attempt, very successfully recently, to limit free speech.

What happened two weeks ago didn't create this.

Agree with everything you've said. Flying it upside down makes us as bad as the football players who take a knee during the playing of the national anthem.

Of course it didn't start with the crap at the capital. That crap however gave the left more "ammo" to use against us with middle of the road voters--who matter a lot in winning elections.

Don't forget, the Republicans (including Ronald Reagan) started pushing and passing gun control in the late 1960's when the Black Panthers showed up at the California statehouse armed. I know the idiots on January 6 were not armed but the idea is the same especially with 24 hour cable news and tech companies pushing that narrative. 24 hour cable news and tech companies are also, I agree, doing their best to clamp down on public discussion.

I promise there is nobody on this site more supportive of the 1A and 2A than me. I am simply stating we need to be tactical and strategic. Being loud and aggressive didn't work out so well for the right in 2020.

I would argue we weren’t loud and aggressive enough. But we’ll see.

The raid on the capital was false flag operation.

I think any reasonable person understands that the crap at the capital was either outright staged or the result of a few over-zealous Trump supporters losing control.

I believe any thinking person understand that the liberals have blown this completely out of all proportion and are using this fake crises to their great advantage.

Insurrection? Attempted coup? That's absolutely ridiculous and would be hilarious if not for the fact that there are so many stupid Americans believing it and so many evil, lying politicians promoting it.

Bingo!!!!!!

There are plenty of stupid people on both sides--and they are getting more and more stupid with each year that passes. The worst part is one stupid side overtly wants to trample on my rights, but the other stupid side thinks they are helping--but they are not and are only expediting the trampling of my rights.

Or bringing on a much needed refreshing of actual freedom.

Nope. That's not how temper tantrums work.

Call it what you want. Somebody is running numbers and getting a clue.

I bet when they get together they are talking about more than how much money they can steal. lol

BTW, getting all the guns off the street is way to big a task for it to actually happen. Liberal gun owners are counting on it. It’s why they elected another politician that will blow smoke up their (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and make them feel good about themselves.

At what point is enough a enough. Let’s look at New York. The state went snooping thru people’s medical files and anyone who was taking a pill for anxiety was required to turn in there pistol permits. There’s another news letter I get of several cases of a he said she said and the police came to confiscate there guns. In the end they had a shoot out with police and lost there life. Your rights are slowly being trampled on everyday. At what point do we say enough is enough. When there leading us all to there re-education camp. I’m not advocating for violence but the swamp needs to never forget, they work for us.

I agree a lot of forums I belong to have a restricted political section. You have to log in to see what’s posted and you have to ask the boss for permission to enter the political/restricted part. It’s a free for all and gets heated, but everyone gets to vent.

I think some are in for a rude awakening. Do some research and see what the rich globalists agenda's are. You are a fool if you do not think rich and powerful people work together to stay rich and powerful. Just look at what happed to parlor in a day. They control all major social media, the corperate news, hollywood, and a good chunk of most big buisness. They are going to push through the agenda they want.

Because they ain’t the only folks reading it. Some are undecided.

By promising the low information population they are going to make other rich people pay for everything. lol

Yes you put on your big boy pants when you enter and only one rule. Argue as much as you want but no personal threats of violence toward one another.

Or the Constitution being rescinded and re-interpreted by traitors? Or is Dire distress classified only in the Military Flag Code as what you're stating here, I think not. How should a traitor be defined?

When was the Constitution being endangered as much as now? How about that question, maybe this is a first. AND, according to the U.S. Department of Defense website, "The flag should never be flown upside down and here's the kicker "UNLESS TRYING TO CONVEY A SIGN OF DISTRESS OR GREAT DANGER". SO, THIS CONDONES DOING THIS.

Never took it as one. I was just stating what most rules was on other political forums.

I Never believed in the Debate Team

Basically Rinos in training! The Founding Father's fought, they didn't debate.

well said and to the point.

When debating the left over guns, trapping, speech, to name a few, what does the left have to give up? There is only one side doing the compromising.

How do you warn the federal government they've overstepped their bounds and they're looking at recourse from the people without coming off as threatening or being labeled as a threat? They're deviants, they're cynical and they won't relinquish the extra-Constitutional power they've heaped upon themselves.

Exactly! Our founding fathers fought for a free nation because of a tax on tea.

Apparently you tell them THIS TIME I MEAN IT, and then you draw another line in the sand.

Pretty much it.

Do you think everyone just sat down and wrote the Constitution one evening?

We all know they hammered it out. Finest work to come from the mind of man with the possible exception of most of Shakespeare. Both brilliant with no contemporary equal. These dolts in office today wouldn't be qualified to empty their predecessors bedpans.

Here's a start. If we could get millions of people to commit to not paying taxes, we could defund the government. They'd never be able to come after everyone.

I had not seen the American Flag flown upside down before , other than some old war movie. Now I have seen /read this thread. I have seen three in my travels, I don't go far from home or work.

They’ll just print more while they are rounding everybody up. lol

They sure the heck did debate and some very well laid out debates that went on with vigor over many sessions.

Correct. And we've been debating ever since.

We need to keep debating and start winning.

it shows like mindedness in my area,for now it will fly up side down,when driving down the back roads and see a up side down flag flying i know i'm in like minded company. Will flying the flag up side down make the gov stop infringing---NO it will not --USA going in to the darkness it' will be a rough road.

When you have a media united with one party, more interested in telling of the new First Dogs to enter the Oval Office rather than the 11,000 jobs lost by the stroke of Biden's pen, there ain't much to debate. They did everything they could to dehumanize Trump and they're doing everything they can to make Biden look like the benevolent old granddad. They are enemies to this ground.

I don't disagree on the media and Biden. Part of debate is however persuasion. Very little time or effort was spent the last four years trying to persuade non-base voters.

Until this election, Trump got more votes than any president in history. I think he did a good job persuading his base and non base to show up. The media did a better job getting support for Biden?Harris.

Debate all you want, they are going to crash the dollar and by they I don't mean only the Dems.

Won't do it nuff said will protest write letters speak in public but will not fly it upside down. Will fly it clean, ungripped not tattered or ragged and illuminated at night.

Yup

Who needed pursuaded ? Other than a few worthless fence riders like yourself and Jimmy . Trump won with record numbers across the board . Where they failed was underestimating the amount of fraud from the shameless left .

lack of persuasiveness = 75 million votes.......lol.

12 million more than he got in 2016, 10 million more than Obama got in 2012, 6 million more than Obama got in 2008.

Pretty presuasive.

Boys you can keep reciting the tired propaganda that won zero court cases but it doesn't change the fact that Trump lost.

75 million apparently wasn't enough--even with the electoral college.

Let's dust off and move on to the next election. Let's persuade some voters and rebuild the Republican Party.

Yes. Let’s keeping voting for the same people over and over who put us into this mess. The Republican Party will never get the same amount votes again unless one of his kids run. Politicians are all in this together. You might think there is two party’s because they get up on the podium and tear in to each other. It behind closed doors they laugh at us. I keep getting the gop emails please donate to us so we can win back the house and senate. They lost the senate there selves. Next time maybe they will pick a candidate who is not a out of touch rino.

I didn't say that Trump won, just countering your argument that trump didn't do a good job of persuading new voters..

I think I have full well explained my position relating to trump.

There is no rebuilding either of the two party system participants. I think I'll ride it out the rest of the way.

The fact that a few judges who are part of the corrupt system didn't do the right thing does not invalidate the fact that the election was stolen. No reasonable person could look at the big picture and conclude otherwise. I don't need a crooked or cowardly judge to interpret reality for me.

The election was stolen, and the 9/11 conspiracy was real!

Bigfoot exists!

Jim

I would love to see the Libertarians trot out a real candidate with a real chance. Until then, I'll vote Libertarian where I can but mostly Republican.

I'll vote conservative at a local level to try and keep our trapping privileges.

At a national level? I don't know. Those fools managed to run a 4 trillion dollar deficit this year and the Fed printed another 2 or 3 trillion out of thin air. I gotta look my grand kids in the eye eventually.

They will destroy the dollar.

You are right about your first four words. And Bigfoot does exist!. A member of the Bigfoot Society even saw him in Rhode Island.

The election was rigged, 9/11 wasn't an inside job and I hope it does.

I suppose when it happens again in 2022 and you’re a criminal shortly after for owning a gun and there are 15 Supreme Court Justices on the bench some folks will take a look at what really happened. lol

Please don't feed the troll guys.

Sorry, sometimes you just have to ride the stupid out of a horse.

Ain't no riding the stupid out of that horse. It has permanent brain damage. Best to look the other way and hope it leaves.

2X

NO they still won't see it, Doesn't fit there agenda.

Starting to see them in the 2024 version already around here!

Trump's mental acuity and physical fitness will be better in 2024 than Biden's is today. Go Trump!

I'm hoping Evonka runs. 80 is too old imo.

Neither will unless something is done with our current election process.

Which one ?

The assault is continuing if you haven't heard the latest.

Biden is setting up a commission for "supreme court reform" . simple words are packing the Supreme court.

As much as I support Trump, I have to agree that if he used a little more sugar and a little less spice and had some of Reagan's charm, he would have been a lot more appealing to those not in his base. Most of the people I know who didn't support Trump, it was his style they didn't like, not his policies.

HOWEVER, that's not why Trump lost. Doesn't matter how many more votes he would have got if the election was stolen.

Short of a dollar collapse it will take a lot to get me "fired up" so to speak but if they pack the court it's game on.

I can't link or I'd post one. Its going to happen, Schumer calls this the big one.

Guns next???

When did style become more important than policies ?

Oh wait , prolly the same people who make color and gender the only priority.....lol

https://nypost.com/2021/01/27/biden-creating-commission-to-study-supreme-court-reform-report/

Hope this works.

It's only week one ........

Lawyers and car salesman would never lie....

Grab your muskets fellers. It’s going to be a wild ride.

For now

For those who comprendo