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Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf

Posted By: trapperinfo

Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 08:46 PM


Interesting.






https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/...d3a13b9-418f-5ae0-ac76-574eaceff5cd.html
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 08:50 PM

Good news for Wi wolf hunters!
Posted By: walleye101

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 09:37 PM

finally a judge with a solid set ...........................
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 09:41 PM

Exactly
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 09:46 PM

Here I sit with 3 preference points trying to figure out how they will pull this off. Might have to dust off the 6mm.

Moosetrot
Posted By: Eagleye

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 11:22 PM

Great News- so the original plan was Nov-Feb, so is this just the remaining month of February or extending it?
Posted By: Feedinggrounds

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 11:26 PM

In Michigan, our DNR would surely turn a wolf hunt into a money making scheme of the first order. Tags would exceed $500 each I bet.
Posted By: NonPCfed

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 11:28 PM

I wouldn't get the rifles out just yet. I'll lay some coin the Sleepy Joe's DoI Acting Sec will sue in some friendly fed court for some reason or another. Too many Blue boys and girls that think wolves are just too cute to whack.
Posted By: bhugo

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
In Michigan, our DNR would surely turn a wolf hunt into a money making scheme of the first order. Tags would exceed $500 each I bet.

It’ll be the stupid lottery that all the antis will buy up the licenses again.
Posted By: bhugo

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/11/21 11:39 PM

They need a trapping season. Last time this happened in Michigan, they pulled the trapping season and decided to just have a hunting season. Where I hunt deer in the up, there were more wolves the next year after the little hunt they ran.
Posted By: Scott__aR

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 12:01 AM

Can just imagine the $$$$ for at best a 10??? day season. WIDNR always looking for more money. Perhaps they should get the long term, dead weight out of management ... the ones that didn't preplan for a wolf season when it was known delisting was coming last year.
Posted By: midlander

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
In Michigan, our DNR would surely turn a wolf hunt into a money making scheme of the first order. Tags would exceed $500 each I bet.

How do you figure..? Is that what they cost a few years back when they had a season...?
Id pay a fair sum for a chance to hunt them, nothing is for free.
Posted By: snowy

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 01:00 AM

That is good I hope it happens. The only good wolf is a dead one!

I just got off the phone with a good friend that lives at 7500 feet in the NW part of the state. The wolfs have just taken over in his area. Moose and deer he use to see daily, now if he see a moose once a year he is very lucky. Wuff tracks are in any direction from his cabin on any given day. He has sent pictures of wolf kills and they eat everything.
It does sound like MT are in talks also about extending trapping on them and may have them classified as a predator. DNR wants to charge more for a package hunt and include a wuff. I'm not totally sure on all of those details with DNR and state legislation but as least they are talking.
Posted By: chas3457

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 01:03 AM

Season ends in 17 days. They best get to it PDQ.




Charlie
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 01:56 AM

easiest way to accomplish it would be a short season and all you need is a small game or trapping license what ever you can get by 00:00 hours March 1

then they can do a count and see if they need a quota for the 2021-2022 season
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by bhugo
They need a trapping season. Last time this happened in Michigan, they pulled the trapping season and decided to just have a hunting season. Where I hunt deer in the up, there were more wolves the next year after the little hunt they ran.

S.S.S.
Posted By: J.Morse

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 04:20 AM

The wolf tag I bought here in 2013 was $100.
Posted By: bhugo

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Originally Posted by bhugo
They need a trapping season. Last time this happened in Michigan, they pulled the trapping season and decided to just have a hunting season. Where I hunt deer in the up, there were more wolves the next year after the little hunt they ran.

S.S.S.

Lol
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 04:41 PM

I wouldn't want to see all wolves eliminated. But, it's only good conservation to manage their numbers by hunting and trapping.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
I wouldn't want to see all wolves eliminated. But, it's only good conservation to manage their numbers by hunting and trapping.


we could wipe out the Wisconsin packs and in 8 years have more than we do today with all of them coming from MN and MI

however the packs will definitely not be wiped out in 15 days even if every guy with a rifle took off the rest of the month and hunted them.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by Trapper7
I wouldn't want to see all wolves eliminated. But, it's only good conservation to manage their numbers by hunting and trapping.


we could wipe out the Wisconsin packs and in 8 years have more than we do today with all of them coming from MN and MI

however the packs will definitely not be wiped out in 15 days even if every guy with a rifle took off the rest of the month and hunted them.

In MN, a 15 day season wouldn't put a dent in their population.
Posted By: Getting There

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 05:19 PM

I think in MI. to hunt Elk, you pay a fee to get into the drawing, if drawn you pay to hunt. Plus I think you have to have to pay for a guide.
It's all about money folks.
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 05:49 PM

How many freezers do you think already have a wolf or 2 in them?
Posted By: huntrap247

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Beav
How many freezers do you think already have a wolf or 2 in them?


Probably plenty.

I remember the first year Illinois had an otter season I saw a guy at the rat wagon with two that looked awful stale.
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 06:41 PM

The Wisconsin NRB is holding a special meeting on Feb. 15 to determine a quota for the Feb. Wolf season.

Moosetrot
Posted By: EdP

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/12/21 06:54 PM

I predict they will comply with the order but drag their feet using beaurcratic roadblocks such that the order will have no real effect.
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 12:30 AM

https://www.research.net/r/FEB2021_NRB_Wolf, go here to fill out survey and comment by noon Sunday for the meeting on Monday.
Posted By: corky

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Diggerman
https://www.research.net/r/FEB2021_NRB_Wolf, go here to fill out survey and comment by noon Sunday for the meeting on Monday.

Thanks for the link Diggerman
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 12:48 AM

ttt
Posted By: corky

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 03:16 AM

ttt
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 11:11 AM

There is going to be a season, maybe only 6 days but there will be a draw and a season. it is my understanding this meeting is to set the quota.
Posted By: Eagleye

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 11:27 AM

So if you're sitting on 3 points, does irrational exuberance kick-in and you pony up those points for a 6-day season? or do you take your chances and wait until a Nov-Feb season is established? I waited this long and may regret it- but I'll wait.
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 11:35 AM

Choices, aint it great?
Posted By: Scott__aR

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Diggerman
There is going to be a season, maybe only 6 days but there will be a draw and a season. it is my understanding this meeting is to set the quota.



I could have set the quota two months ago based on past history! But someone/s chosen not to have a wolf season this winter. Took the survey ... What a JOKE!
Posted By: Feedinggrounds

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Getting There
I think in MI. to hunt Elk, you pay a fee to get into the drawing, if drawn you pay to hunt. Plus I think you have to have to pay for a guide.
It's all about money folks.

TRUTH! Just don't understand the deer regs? They seem to be dropping hunters in big numbers, along with $$. Well I do think with deer regs, some special interest groups have sway right now.
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 11:39 AM

Its the hand we are dealt, I believe it is being played as well as can be.
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 03:32 PM

ttt
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 09:26 PM

From the Milwaukee Journal:

Rushing to comply with a judge's ruling, the Department of Natural Resources will propose on Monday a harvest quota of 200 wolves for consideration by the Natural Resources Board.
In a bizarre circumstance borne of state statute and a court order, hunters and trappers would have just seven days to fill a wolf tag.
The special board meeting was called after a Jefferson County judge on Thursday ordered the DNR and NRB to implement a wolf hunting and trapping season in February.
The ruling came in a lawsuit brought against the DNR and NRB by the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty on behalf of Hunter Nation Inc., a Kansas-based hunting advocacy group. Luke Hilgemann, president of Hunter Nation, is a Wisconsin resident.
State law calls on the DNR to hold a hunting and trapping season running from early November to the end of February if the wolf is not on the endangered or threatened species list.
The wolf was removed from the federal Endangered Species List on Jan. 4; the DNR planned to wait until November to begin the next wolf season. The board, which sets policy for the DNR, agreed in a 4-3 vote at its Jan. 22 meeting.
But Thursday's ruling by Jefferson County judge Bennett Brantmeier forced the DNR and NRB to implement a season this month.

Given the short time frame required by the court order, public and tribal input was very limited and the state's Wolf Advisory Committee was unable to meet, according to the DNR.
The agency said the kill target of 200 wolves was developed by department staff in consideration of several factors, including the most recent population estimate, the public response to a harvest in the 2012-14 seasons, the current management plan, scientific literature and population model projections.
The DNR will recommend 2,000 wolf permits be issued.
According to the department's plan, the permit application period would begin 12:01 a.m. Tuesday and close at midnight Saturday. Drawing results would be available Feb. 22. Winners could begin hunting and trapping as soon as they purchased their license and printed their carcass tag. The season would run through Feb. 28.
Preliminary information released by the DNR did not specify whether the quota would be divided among the state's six wolf management zones.
When the state held wolf hunting and trapping seasons during the last period of state management authority, the pre-season process spanned about seven months and hunters and trappers required about two months to fill the quotas.
Thursday's court ruling was the latest chapter in the often-litigious history of wolf management. And it won't be the last this month.
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On Friday state attorneys representing the DNR and NRB began an appeal of the Jefferson County ruling. The appeal was filed in District Court I in Milwaukee County. The state attorneys also submitted a motion seeking an expedited stay. The motion asks the appeals court to rule by 5 p.m. Monday.
State rules require appeals to be filed in a different district from the original case. Jefferson County is in District IV.
Absent any new legal order, the DNR and NRB must continue to comply with the judge's ruling.
Brantmeier set a review of the DNR's progress for 10:15 a.m. Tuesday in Jefferson County Circuit Court.
Wisconsin held hunting and trapping seasons for three years, killing 117 wolves in 2012, 257 in 2013 and 154 in 2014 before a federal judge’s ruling returned wolves to the Endangered Species List.
Each of the previous seasons started in late October and ended in late December.
In 2014 the DNR set a statewide quota of 150 wolves and sold about 1,100 licenses.
Last winter the DNR estimated 1,195 wolves and 256 packs in the state, both modern-era highs.
Unlike in 2012-14, when the DNR expressed its desire to "put downward pressure on the wolf population," the agency has not expressed a wolf management goal since assuming state authority for the species. Such an objective is expected to be part of an update of the state's wolf management plan later this year.
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The NRB will meet at 11 a.m. Monday to discuss the next steps to establish a wolf hunt in February.
The public can watch the meeting on Zoom or DNR webcast. Written comments may be submitted via the DNR's website; the deadline for submissions is 11 a.m. Sunday.

Moosetrot
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 09:47 PM

Since the coyote trapping season closes on Mon the 15th how Is that going to work?
Posted By: WIMarshRAT

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by The Beav
Since the coyote trapping season closes on Mon the 15th how Is that going to work?


Same as any other incidental. We didn't move coyote opener back when we moved the wolf season back.


Thanks Moosetrot. Lots of info there to digest.

Posted By: 8117 Steve R

Re: Judge orders Wisconsin DNR to hold immediate wolf - 02/13/21 10:31 PM

Drawing results would be available Feb. 22. Winners could begin hunting and trapping as soon as they purchased their license and printed their carcass tag. The season would run through Feb. 28.

It sounds like a person could obtain a permit (using up one of the 2,000 available) without a license?
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